A good explanation of the Lease and Release process can be found on the University of Nottingham website: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/manuscriptsandspecialcollections/researchguidance/deedsindepth/freehold/leaserelease.aspx They also provide an example of an Indenture, showing the wavy line (indented) that the original deed or contract was cut along for the two (or more) parties, so they could be fitted back together at any future date to demonstrate authenticity. http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/manuscriptsandspecialcollections/researchguidance/deedsindepth/copyhold/enfranchisement.aspx Colin -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret O'Shea Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:17 AM To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Memorial of an Indenture Please can someone explain the difference between "A Memorial of an Indenture" and "a Memorial of Indentures of Lease and Release". I have the following documents: 14 May 1810  “A Memorial of an Indenture” of four parts- being my ancestor Robert and Wm Danby of Guisborough, Robert Walker of Liverton and John Wardell of Guisborough – this relates to the farm where they lived and is 50 acres or upwards. 11 & 12 November 1813 “A Memorial of Indentures of Lease and Release” between my ancestor Robert (one part) and  Richard Agar of Danby, Thomas Weatherill of Danby (the other part) and the release being of three parts and made between my ancestor and wife Sarah (1st part), John Wardell of Guisborough (2nd part) and Richard Agar and Thomas Wetherill.  This relates to about 55 acres at the same farm so is this likely to be the same land even though apart from John Wardell the other parties are different. The 55 acres would only form part of the farm as the whole of their holdings of this farm and the adjacent farm came to about 250 acres. >From the British Library Newspaper Archive On-Line I have found that both farms were up for sale late in 1815. I know that solicitors had a caretaker for the main farm in August 1813 and letters from the caretaker to the solicitors show that both the farm and the caretaker were having a very hard time. I am trying to work out what happened between the 1806 will of my ancestor Thomas and the point when the farms were sold in 1815. In May 1808, eight months after his death the friends that he had named as executors and trustees renounced their obligations under his will and his widow also renounced her rights. At the same time sons Robert and Thomas seem to have been given the power of administration relating to the will but a large bond of £600 was mentioned in the paperwork relating to this. Margaret (Oxford) ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"My" Lund is the one near Beverley. I have found photos of the area so thank you to the people who responded. helen

There is a Lund though very close to Bishop Burton:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lund,_East_Riding_of_Yorkshire  Trisha  ________________________________ From: CHRISTINE WILLOTT <christine.willott@btopenworld.com> To: Helen Vaillancourt <lucy@efni.com> Cc: "YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com" <YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 24 August 2012, 13:41 Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Lund and Bishop Burton Hi Helen There are several Lunds as I found when I was following up the ancestors birth places on the census returns. There is a Lund village which is no more than a hamlet  of  few houses in Hemingbrough village. http://hemingbrough.net/index.html  This is a good web site.  Not too far away in Gateforth is a Lund farm http://www.lundfarm.co.uk/ Both of these places are covered by Selby FHS. http://www.selbydistrictfamilyhistory.btck.co.uk/ I think the other Lund is near Doncaster. I did not need to follow this one up as the Hemingbrough PRs gave me the evidence I needed to fix my ancestors. The Borthwick has a transcription of Hemingbrough PRs. I believe the SOG has them as well. Reading the microfiche of the originals is not easy. The Rev Potter's writing is difficult. The original records though do contain items such as an appeal to restore the organ and a list of all the donors. Lund in Hemingbrough is just in the old ERY and Lund farm is just in WRY.  HTH Chris ________________________________ From: Helen Vaillancourt <lucy@efni.com> To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 20:01 Subject: [YORKSGEN] Lund and Bishop Burton I am looking for someone who lives near these towns, near Beverly, who'd take some photos for me. Please contact me off line at lucy@efni.com ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

An Indenture is simply a deed. A memorial is brief abstract of that deed, for example in a Land Register. An Indenture of Lease and Release was an instrument whereby real property could be sold. They are usually recorded on two consecutive days, with the Lease being on the first day, then the Release the day after when title passed. In your example John Wardell also held an interest in the property (often people who loaned money against the security of the property would appear here, so he had to agree for the sale to proceed). Colin -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret O'Shea Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:17 AM To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Memorial of an Indenture Please can someone explain the difference between "A Memorial of an Indenture" and "a Memorial of Indentures of Lease and Release". I have the following documents: 14 May 1810  “A Memorial of an Indenture” of four parts- being my ancestor Robert and Wm Danby of Guisborough, Robert Walker of Liverton and John Wardell of Guisborough – this relates to the farm where they lived and is 50 acres or upwards. 11 & 12 November 1813 “A Memorial of Indentures of Lease and Release” between my ancestor Robert (one part) and  Richard Agar of Danby, Thomas Weatherill of Danby (the other part) and the release being of three parts and made between my ancestor and wife Sarah (1st part), John Wardell of Guisborough (2nd part) and Richard Agar and Thomas Wetherill.  This relates to about 55 acres at the same farm so is this likely to be the same land even though apart from John Wardell the other parties are different. The 55 acres would only form part of the farm as the whole of their holdings of this farm and the adjacent farm came to about 250 acres. >From the British Library Newspaper Archive On-Line I have found that both farms were up for sale late in 1815. I know that solicitors had a caretaker for the main farm in August 1813 and letters from the caretaker to the solicitors show that both the farm and the caretaker were having a very hard time. I am trying to work out what happened between the 1806 will of my ancestor Thomas and the point when the farms were sold in 1815. In May 1808, eight months after his death the friends that he had named as executors and trustees renounced their obligations under his will and his widow also renounced her rights. At the same time sons Robert and Thomas seem to have been given the power of administration relating to the will but a large bond of £600 was mentioned in the paperwork relating to this. Margaret (Oxford) ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Further to message below, I should perhaps have mentioned that the solicitors who were involved in 1813-1815 were the owners of the farms in 1836 when there was some infighting amongst their family over a will. Margaret (Oxford) -----Original Message----- From: Margaret O'Shea [mailto:m.oshea1@ntlworld.com] Sent: 23 August 2012 10:17 To: 'YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com' Subject: Memorial of an Indenture Please can someone explain the difference between "A Memorial of an Indenture" and "a Memorial of Indentures of Lease and Release". I have the following documents: 14 May 1810  “A Memorial of an Indenture” of four parts- being my ancestor Robert and Wm Danby of Guisborough, Robert Walker of Liverton and John Wardell of Guisborough – this relates to the farm where they lived and is 50 acres or upwards. 11 & 12 November 1813 “A Memorial of Indentures of Lease and Release” between my ancestor Robert (one part) and  Richard Agar of Danby, Thomas Weatherill of Danby (the other part) and the release being of three parts and made between my ancestor and wife Sarah (1st part), John Wardell of Guisborough (2nd part) and Richard Agar and Thomas Wetherill.  This relates to about 55 acres at the same farm so is this likely to be the same land even though apart from John Wardell the other parties are different. The 55 acres would only form part of the farm as the whole of their holdings of this farm and the adjacent farm came to about 250 acres. >From the British Library Newspaper Archive On-Line I have found that both farms were up for sale late in 1815. I know that solicitors had a caretaker for the main farm in August 1813 and letters from the caretaker to the solicitors show that both the farm and the caretaker were having a very hard time. I am trying to work out what happened between the 1806 will of my ancestor Thomas and the point when the farms were sold in 1815. In May 1808, eight months after his death the friends that he had named as executors and trustees renounced their obligations under his will and his widow also renounced her rights. At the same time sons Robert and Thomas seem to have been given the power of administration relating to the will but a large bond of £600 was mentioned in the paperwork relating to this. Margaret (Oxford)

Please can someone explain the difference between "A Memorial of an Indenture" and "a Memorial of Indentures of Lease and Release". I have the following documents: 14 May 1810  “A Memorial of an Indenture” of four parts- being my ancestor Robert and Wm Danby of Guisborough, Robert Walker of Liverton and John Wardell of Guisborough – this relates to the farm where they lived and is 50 acres or upwards. 11 & 12 November 1813 “A Memorial of Indentures of Lease and Release” between my ancestor Robert (one part) and  Richard Agar of Danby, Thomas Weatherill of Danby (the other part) and the release being of three parts and made between my ancestor and wife Sarah (1st part), John Wardell of Guisborough (2nd part) and Richard Agar and Thomas Wetherill.  This relates to about 55 acres at the same farm so is this likely to be the same land even though apart from John Wardell the other parties are different. The 55 acres would only form part of the farm as the whole of their holdings of this farm and the adjacent farm came to about 250 acres. >From the British Library Newspaper Archive On-Line I have found that both farms were up for sale late in 1815. I know that solicitors had a caretaker for the main farm in August 1813 and letters from the caretaker to the solicitors show that both the farm and the caretaker were having a very hard time. I am trying to work out what happened between the 1806 will of my ancestor Thomas and the point when the farms were sold in 1815. In May 1808, eight months after his death the friends that he had named as executors and trustees renounced their obligations under his will and his widow also renounced her rights. At the same time sons Robert and Thomas seem to have been given the power of administration relating to the will but a large bond of £600 was mentioned in the paperwork relating to this. Margaret (Oxford)

I've got details of the newspaper entries of the above if they are of any help to anyone's research. Private T BARNETT, 5th Batt A P W O Yorks Regt killed in action 25th April Private John W WILSON, 5th Batt A P W O Yorks Regt killed in action 25th April, leaving a wife and 5 children, the eldest aged 9. His father had died 5 weeks previously. George GIBBINS, died May 11th 1915 aged 72 Please contact me off list for more information. LIn -- PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS

I am looking for someone who lives near these towns, near Beverly, who'd take some photos for me. Please contact me off line at lucy@efni.com

Thanks Lesley. I also have a ScotlandsPeople account (which I had forgotten about) and after your clues found the marriage. The details were as follows: 26 January 1901, Chapelhill United Free Church, parish of Nigg, Ross & Cromarty, after publication. William S Bruce, naturalist and zoologist, bachelor, of 17 Jappe Road, Portobello, Edinburgh; son of Samuel Noble Bruce, surgeon M.R.C.S Jessie Mackenzie, spinster of Chapelhill, Nigg, Ross & Cromarty; daughter of Alexander Mackenzie, tailor (master) deceased. Witnesses: Isabella Mackenzie. Bruce’s wiki page has now been updated. Cheers Colin From: Lesley Abernethy [mailto:taighcu47@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:50 AM To: Colin B. Withers Cc: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] OT - William Speirs Bruce - Antarctica Hi Colin No, I didn't see the programme, but the marriage of William S Bruce and Jessie Mackenzie took place in Nigg, in Ross and Cromarty. (I only have 2 Scotlandspeople credits left at the moment and a marriage entry costs 5, otherwise you could have the exact date in 1901! I don't think the biographers can have looked very hard, or had also run out of Scotlandspeople credits.) Regards, Lesley From: Colin B. Withers <Colin.Withers@eumetsat.int> To: "YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com" <YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 8:57 Subject: [YORKSGEN] OT - William Speirs Bruce - Antarctica Did any of you watch the amazing programme last night on BBC4 about William Speirs Bruce and his Antarctic expeditions, it was absolutely fascinating. However, while discussing this at work today with some colleagues, I noticed that his Wikipedia entry contains the following: "Early in 1901 he evidently felt sufficiently confident of his prospects to get married. His bride was Jessie Mackenzie, who had worked as a nurse in Samuel Bruce's London surgery. Bruce's secretive nature, even among his circle of close friends and colleagues, was such that precise information about the wedding—its exact date, its location—has not been recorded by his biographers. The Bruces settled in the coastal Edinburgh suburb of Portobello, in the first of a series of addresses in that area." So, biographers do not know the location/date of Bruce's marriage. It looks like it could be in London, or Edinburgh, or maybe in the bride's home parish (wherever that might be). If the biographers can't find it, I was wondering if any intrepid Yorksgen adventurers could fare any better. Any takers? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Speirs_Bruce Colin ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Colin   No, I didn't see the programme, but the marriage of William S Bruce and Jessie Mackenzie took place in Nigg, in Ross and Cromarty. (I only have 2 Scotlandspeople credits left at the moment and a marriage entry costs 5, otherwise you could have the exact date in 1901! I don't think the biographers can have looked very hard, or had also run out of Scotlandspeople credits.)   Regards, Lesley ________________________________ From: Colin B. Withers <Colin.Withers@eumetsat.int> To: "YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com" <YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 8:57 Subject: [YORKSGEN] OT - William Speirs Bruce - Antarctica Did any of you watch the amazing programme last night on BBC4 about William Speirs Bruce and his Antarctic expeditions, it was absolutely fascinating. However, while discussing this at work today with some colleagues, I noticed that his Wikipedia entry contains the following: "Early in 1901 he evidently felt sufficiently confident of his prospects to get married. His bride was Jessie Mackenzie, who had worked as a nurse in Samuel Bruce's London surgery. Bruce's secretive nature, even among his circle of close friends and colleagues, was such that precise information about the wedding—its exact date, its location—has not been recorded by his biographers. The Bruces settled in the coastal Edinburgh suburb of Portobello, in the first of a series of addresses in that area." So, biographers do not know the location/date of Bruce's marriage. It looks like it could be in London, or Edinburgh, or maybe in the bride's home parish (wherever that might be). If the biographers can't find it, I was wondering if any intrepid Yorksgen adventurers could fare any better. Any takers? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Speirs_Bruce Colin ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi NivardHow very kind - many thanks for this. Suzannein Devon. Suzanne > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:21:38 +0100 > From: ovington1@sky.com > To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Ancestry - a warning! > > Hi Suzanne > > You don't say where you are so it may not be relevant but from the UK > the freephone number is :- > > 0800 404 9723 > > I have found them very helpful > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 22/08/2012 10:16, suzanne paget wrote: > > > > Thank you for this piece of intelligence Roy - very useful to hear of your recent experience in view of the fact that I need to find out more about how Ancestry works in relation to short term subs. I shall try to find that number to have a conversation which I find more satisfactory - usually. > > > > Suzanne > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Suzanne You don't say where you are so it may not be relevant but from the UK the freephone number is :- 0800 404 9723 I have found them very helpful Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/08/2012 10:16, suzanne paget wrote: > > Thank you for this piece of intelligence Roy - very useful to hear of your recent experience in view of the fact that I need to find out more about how Ancestry works in relation to short term subs. I shall try to find that number to have a conversation which I find more satisfactory - usually. > > Suzanne

Thank you for this piece of intelligence Roy - very useful to hear of your recent experience in view of the fact that I need to find out more about how Ancestry works in relation to short term subs. I shall try to find that number to have a conversation which I find more satisfactory - usually. Suzanne > From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com > To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:36:53 +0100 > Subject: [YORKSGEN] Ancestry - a warning! > > Last week I bought some pay-as-you-go units for £6.95 at Ancestry because I wanted to do > some research in their London Parish Records. It is no secret that I am not an Ancestry fan - > I always use Findmypast wherever possible - and have repeatedly said I would never take out > an Ancestry subscription. However, I buy PAYG units from Ancestry where occasionally > necessary. > > I have been away for a few days and in downloading my e-mails this morning, to my > astonishment I found one from Ancestry congratulating me on signing up for their trial annual > subscription, starting free. I am 100 per cent certain I did NOT! Moreover, to compound > matters the e-mail informed me that my subscription would start on August 17 2012 - the very > day the e-mail was dated and on which I bought the PAYG units. > > I called the freefone number for Ancestry.co.uk and spoke to an American girl (whether she > was in this country or in the US I don't know) and told her in no uncertain terms that I had not > signed up for a free trial subscription, nor did I want one. She apologised profusely and said > that the e-mails had been sent out to pay-as-you-go customers "in error". Obviously, I had to > take her word for it. She assured me my name and e-mail address would be removed from > the subscription list. What bothers me is that they have my credit card details from my > purchase of PAYG units and I will have to check on my next statement that I haven't been > charged for an annual subscription. > > I don't know how many of these "in error" e-mails have gone out but I thought it best to inform > the list, as I cannot be the only person to have received it. If others have had such a > message and did not wish to start an Ancestry subscription, I advise them to telephone or > e-mail Ancestry and demand that things be put right. > > Now perhaps some listers will understand why I prefer FMP every time! > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did any of you watch the amazing programme last night on BBC4 about William Speirs Bruce and his Antarctic expeditions, it was absolutely fascinating. However, while discussing this at work today with some colleagues, I noticed that his Wikipedia entry contains the following: "Early in 1901 he evidently felt sufficiently confident of his prospects to get married. His bride was Jessie Mackenzie, who had worked as a nurse in Samuel Bruce's London surgery. Bruce's secretive nature, even among his circle of close friends and colleagues, was such that precise information about the wedding—its exact date, its location—has not been recorded by his biographers. The Bruces settled in the coastal Edinburgh suburb of Portobello, in the first of a series of addresses in that area." So, biographers do not know the location/date of Bruce's marriage. It looks like it could be in London, or Edinburgh, or maybe in the bride's home parish (wherever that might be). If the biographers can't find it, I was wondering if any intrepid Yorksgen adventurers could fare any better. Any takers? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Speirs_Bruce Colin

>Thanks to everyone who`s helped me with a couple of families over the last 2 or 3 days. > > >I`m on another hunt now, for information on "Forcet Hall" which is in Forcet, North Yorkshire. An ancestor of mine was a Footman there in the 1861 census when John Michell, was the Squire. I can`t find anything on the internet. So I think it`ll be a visit to the library, but before I go. Has anyone any knowledge of it? I can see it`s a wedding venue these days. I thought there website may have had some history of the place, maybe it did once, but the website looks to have folded. > > >Thanks for any help. >George Carter in Whaley Bridge.

Last week I bought some pay-as-you-go units for £6.95 at Ancestry because I wanted to do some research in their London Parish Records. It is no secret that I am not an Ancestry fan - I always use Findmypast wherever possible - and have repeatedly said I would never take out an Ancestry subscription. However, I buy PAYG units from Ancestry where occasionally necessary. I have been away for a few days and in downloading my e-mails this morning, to my astonishment I found one from Ancestry congratulating me on signing up for their trial annual subscription, starting free. I am 100 per cent certain I did NOT! Moreover, to compound matters the e-mail informed me that my subscription would start on August 17 2012 - the very day the e-mail was dated and on which I bought the PAYG units. I called the freefone number for Ancestry.co.uk and spoke to an American girl (whether she was in this country or in the US I don't know) and told her in no uncertain terms that I had not signed up for a free trial subscription, nor did I want one. She apologised profusely and said that the e-mails had been sent out to pay-as-you-go customers "in error". Obviously, I had to take her word for it. She assured me my name and e-mail address would be removed from the subscription list. What bothers me is that they have my credit card details from my purchase of PAYG units and I will have to check on my next statement that I haven't been charged for an annual subscription. I don't know how many of these "in error" e-mails have gone out but I thought it best to inform the list, as I cannot be the only person to have received it. If others have had such a message and did not wish to start an Ancestry subscription, I advise them to telephone or e-mail Ancestry and demand that things be put right. Now perhaps some listers will understand why I prefer FMP every time! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Martin, The locals pronounce it GARFEE. Note your interest in HAMMOND, I have them in my tree linked to JACKSON, however not sure about the mechanic, will have to check, what is your time frame? Regards Barrie Sharples North Yorkshire On 21 August 2012 13:02, Martin Briscoe <martin@mbriscoe.me.uk> wrote: > I had a walk around the Masham area the other weekend whilst on my way > South, I was talking to someone and mentioned Galphay Mill (at one time we > thought there could be family connections). I was corrected on the > pronunciation of "Galphay" but can't remember what was said now. Something > was silent, the "ph" seems most likely but nothing would surprise me with > the pronunciation of British place names! > > Can someone remind me. > > > > I was intrigued by the large mill in Mickley, never realised that was there > until I came across it. My Great Great Grandfather was born in Mickley and > I am sure there was a suggestion that he had been a mechanic somewhere > which > is what made us think about Galphay Mill - there were Hammonds there and he > was a Hammond. > > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk > > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Though Find My Past did not transcribe the full address in the 1871 census Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: 21 August 2012 12:23 To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com; George Carter Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Searching for address in 1911 Try using Findmypast instead! They have a facility in EVERY census for searching by person or address. The address search is immediately beneath the person search. You don't have to take out a subscription, you can buy pay-as-you-go units.

I had a walk around the Masham area the other weekend whilst on my way South, I was talking to someone and mentioned Galphay Mill (at one time we thought there could be family connections). I was corrected on the pronunciation of "Galphay" but can't remember what was said now. Something was silent, the "ph" seems most likely but nothing would surprise me with the pronunciation of British place names! Can someone remind me. I was intrigued by the large mill in Mickley, never realised that was there until I came across it. My Great Great Grandfather was born in Mickley and I am sure there was a suggestion that he had been a mechanic somewhere which is what made us think about Galphay Mill - there were Hammonds there and he was a Hammond. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk

Ermm? What address George ? Given the address was enumerated then yes its possible Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 21/08/2012 12:15, George Carter wrote: > Is it possible to search for an address in the 1911 census on > Ancestry?. The people who were there in 1901 may have died, I can`t > find them, and I was wondering who was at the same address. >> >> >> Thanks for any help George Carter in Whaley Bridge