In Reports of Cases argued in the Supreme Court of Ohio there is a case involving the company of Kanmacher and Stark who were employed by the Board of Trustees to build the Ohio and Agricultural and Mechanical College. On 23 Dec 1871 Kanmacher and Stark signed a contract with Dunn and Witt for "the material and labor of the slating, galvanized iron, and tin work necessary in the completion of the building". Kanmacher and Stark failed to pay Dunn and Witt what was owed to them, hence the court case. So I would assume from this that Dunn and Witt were builders specializing in roofing and guttering perhaps. Jane > > Can anyone tell me what industry Dunn and Witt were involved > with? > > Thanks > > Lin >

Hi Lin If you go to Archive.org and enter Cuyahoga you will find several books on the County The 1879 History lists a WITT but not a DUNN & WITT but other books may help you The 1870 WITTs in Cuyahoga are either a labourer, a carpenter and a Blacksmith all the older males were from Prussia Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26/08/2012 17:08, Lin wrote: > Can anyone tell me what industry Dunn and Witt were involved with? > > Thanks > > Lin >

Hi Mary Lou I'm afraid I've no idea. I just came across a possible family member in the City Directory - just gave his name, with 'wks Dunn and Witt'. Knowing what Dunn and Witt did would hopefully tell me if I have a match. Lin PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS On 26/08/2012 17:41, Mlou1173@aol.com wrote: > Hi Lin......they "may" have been involved in street cars. Does that fit? > mary lou > In a message dated 8/26/2012 10:10:56 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > dml5481@hotmail.com writes: > > Can anyone tell me what industry Dunn and Witt were involved with? > > Thanks > > Lin > -- > PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE > Bcc BOX > FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Hi Carole I have a laptop with W7 64bit and both IE and Firefox with latest updates work just fine so its not either browser as such but could be a setting in the browser I wonder what anti virus you use? Norton or McAfee by any chance ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I, too, am having a problem viewing the final image on Free > BMD. > > I am using W7, 64 bit, Firefox vers. 14.0.1, which, I think, > is the latest update. > > I think the problem started when I updated Firefox. > > Everything works fine with XP and an older version of > Firefox. > > So where do we go from here? > > Carole

Libe I agree with your assumption about Margaret's surname (became the stepchild or adopted child of a Light). If there was more than one name she could be known by, her marriage to Andrew Chase would be registered in both names, using words such as 'Margaret Spencer otherwise Light'.  I have seen two similar examples within the last 20 years. The childrens' births could well have used the same or similar words, and been transcribed differently (if you are looking at a transcription), ie different transcribers made different choices about what is the maiden name.  Alternatively Margaret could have given different maiden names and the certificates could have different maiden names; for example if she was answering different questions ('what was your name before you were married' or 'what was your name at birth'). Kim  --- On Sun, 26/8/12, libe <libehast@googlemail.com> wrote: On Ancestry.co.uk - I have a person born Margaret Spencer (mother’s maiden name Spencer) 19 years later she gets married to Andrew Chase. However there are two marriage registrations for Andrew Chase, in the same area, year and quarter One marries a Margaret Spencer and one a Margaret Light. There are  then  3 children born the eldest born to  Chase maiden name Spencer, the next two to  Chase maiden name Light ( I do know for certain that these children are from the same parents) Following a marriage split Margaret then reverts  to the last name Spencer. I am assuming rightly or wrongly that when Margaret was born her own mother was unmarried and either went on to marry a Light (although I cannot find a marriage) or that Margaret was adopted by the Light family, are there any other suggestions? Also does anyone  know why she was recorded as been married twice under different last names, is this common practice, plus why were two maiden names used for her own children. Libe Hast

>I have a problem viewing the final image on Free BMD. >My problem is that when I click the spectacles icon to >view the image, >it just shows a blank white page. I, too, am having a problem viewing the final image on Free BMD. I am using W7, 64 bit, Firefox vers. 14.0.1, which, I think, is the latest update. I think the problem started when I updated Firefox. Everything works fine with XP and an older version of Firefox. So where do we go from here? Carole

Hello everyone, My query is regarding registration details not necessarily Yorkshire but it may have implications for any area. I wonder if any one can explain/confirm why this situation has arisen. This information is regarding a ‘living’ family therefore I do not want to give their actual names on site, so I have changed them On Ancestry.co.uk - I have a person born Margaret Spencer (mother’s maiden name Spencer) 19 years later she gets married to Andrew Chase. However there are two marriage registrations for Andrew Chase, in the same area, year and quarter One marries a Margaret Spencer and one a Margaret Light. There are then 3 children born the eldest born to Chase maiden name Spencer, the next two to Chase maiden name Light ( I do know for certain that these children are from the same parents) Following a marriage split Margaret then reverts to the last name Spencer. I am assuming rightly or wrongly that when Margaret was born her own mother was unmarried and either went on to marry a Light (although I cannot find a marriage) or that Margaret was adopted by the Light family, are there any other suggestions? Also does anyone know why she was recorded as been married twice under different last names, is this common practice, plus why were two maiden names used for her own children. Has anyone come across this before, my concern is that this could have real implications for people like me who search for marriages and children using actual and maiden names. Because if I had used only the names Spencer and Chase I would not have found the other two children and vice versa Libe Hast

The problem is that the code (as Microsoft admitted in my particular case) is not fully tested. In that case IE8 worked perfectly on XP but not, in some circumstances, on Vista. Another problem I had was when Virgin Media changed the way their web mail was accessed. In neither case was the error condition trapped. That should never happen and doesn't happen if software is tested for how it performs against the original specification. There is no need at all to test for every combination of browser settings. Even if a publisher decides not to test everything, a "catch all" should be included in case any other error occurs (i.e. something unexpected happens). That is one of the basics I used to teach trainee programmers 40 years ago. Graham At 13:11 25/08/2012, Nivard Ovington wrote: >Hi Graham > >But had it been a problem caused by a browser then everyone would have >the same problem which is not the case > >So it would appear to be a browser settings or perhaps security issue > >I have a PC with XP and a laptop with W7 both open the freebmd images >with no problem in either browser > >Browsers certainly can have issues which is why I stopped using IE some >time back and use Firefox instead > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >On 25/08/2012 12:09, Graham Hadfield wrote: > > Summary response to messages received both on and off list. > > > > There has been a problem for several years with browsers (especially > > IE in my experience) in that the publishers fail to test their code > > properly. This also extends to publishers of plug-ins. Too many > > software publishers these days are prepared to sell their products on > > the basis that they will work with default settings and will not bear > > the cost of real testing (in some cases obviously don't train their > > staff properly in the necessary techniques). > > > > When I identified a fault in IE a couple of years ago (for which I > > received cash compensation from Microsoft) the person I dealt with > > actually admitted that the error should have been caught and > > corrected if testing had been adequate. > > > > Graham >..... >Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; >www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; >www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Graham But had it been a problem caused by a browser then everyone would have the same problem which is not the case So it would appear to be a browser settings or perhaps security issue I have a PC with XP and a laptop with W7 both open the freebmd images with no problem in either browser Browsers certainly can have issues which is why I stopped using IE some time back and use Firefox instead Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/08/2012 12:09, Graham Hadfield wrote: > Summary response to messages received both on and off list. > > There has been a problem for several years with browsers (especially > IE in my experience) in that the publishers fail to test their code > properly. This also extends to publishers of plug-ins. Too many > software publishers these days are prepared to sell their products on > the basis that they will work with default settings and will not bear > the cost of real testing (in some cases obviously don't train their > staff properly in the necessary techniques). > > When I identified a fault in IE a couple of years ago (for which I > received cash compensation from Microsoft) the person I dealt with > actually admitted that the error should have been caught and > corrected if testing had been adequate. > > Graham

Summary response to messages received both on and off list. There has been a problem for several years with browsers (especially IE in my experience) in that the publishers fail to test their code properly. This also extends to publishers of plug-ins. Too many software publishers these days are prepared to sell their products on the basis that they will work with default settings and will not bear the cost of real testing (in some cases obviously don't train their staff properly in the necessary techniques). When I identified a fault in IE a couple of years ago (for which I received cash compensation from Microsoft) the person I dealt with actually admitted that the error should have been caught and corrected if testing had been adequate. Graham

Hi John   I'm no computer expert so can't solve your problem, but as I also use 64-bit Windows and IE9, so can confirm FreeBMD images are viewable with no problems, so it does look like the glitch is in your personal settings. Step forward, Yorksgen geeks! Regards, Lesley ________________________________ From: John Lindley <jlindley41@sky.com> To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 25 August 2012, 9:54 Subject: [YORKSGEN] Free BMD Hi Yorksgen I have a problem viewing the final image on Free BMD. My problem is that when I click the spectacles  icon to view the image, it just shows a blank white page. I have a fairly new PC with Windows 7 and 64 bit. I still have my old PC with XP and have never had a problem with Free BMD.   I use IE 9 as my browser. So it is relevant to my new PC. I have no other problem with the new PC and can open Photo's in My Pictures with no trouble. May be its some settings that is the problems, its getting very annoying as you  can imagine. Hope you can help Many thanks Regards John Lindley - -- John Lindley www.lindleyancestry.com   ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you tried a different browser John? Only a couple of days ago my wife complained that she couldn't see embedded videos on some web sites (IE9, Windows 7, 64 bit). She tried using Firefox and it's fine. I switched to Firefox a couple of years ago because some sites did not work correctly with IE7/IE8 on XP. Graham At 09:54 25/08/2012, John Lindley wrote: >Hi Yorksgen > >I have a problem viewing the final image on Free BMD. >My problem is that when I click the spectacles icon to view the image, >it just shows a blank white page. > >I have a fairly new PC with Windows 7 and 64 bit. >I still have my old PC with XP and have never had a problem with Free BMD. > > I use IE 9 as my browser. > >So it is relevant to my new PC. I have no other problem with the new PC >and can open Photo's in My Pictures with no trouble. >May be its some settings that is the problems, its getting very annoying >as you can imagine. > >Hope you can help >Many thanks > >Regards John Lindley > >- > > > >-- >John Lindley >www.lindleyancestry.com > > > >..... >Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; >www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; >www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Yorksgen I have a problem viewing the final image on Free BMD. My problem is that when I click the spectacles icon to view the image, it just shows a blank white page. I have a fairly new PC with Windows 7 and 64 bit. I still have my old PC with XP and have never had a problem with Free BMD. I use IE 9 as my browser. So it is relevant to my new PC. I have no other problem with the new PC and can open Photo's in My Pictures with no trouble. May be its some settings that is the problems, its getting very annoying as you can imagine. Hope you can help Many thanks Regards John Lindley - -- John Lindley www.lindleyancestry.com

Hi Listers, I have noticed a death notice for Keith Jowsey (Dunedin NZ) husband for 58 years of Mabel. I have had a lot of help from Mabel over the years & send her my deepest sympathy & no doubt a lot of you have also been helped by this kind lady. Anita. Blenheim, NZ

From: Victor Markham <victor@markham.me.uk> > All these 'Lund' places indicate why one should add West, East or > North Yorkshire as the case may be. It is not enough to just say > Yorkshire. > > There are many other places with the same name in different Ridings. > I am Hessle born in East Riding and before I started my family tree I > had no idea that there was an Hessle in West Riding. > > Victor> Indeed, that is the problem with a county the size of Yorkshire - the duplication of place names. Do you have any idea how many places called Sutton - or with Sutton in the title - there are, for instance? Some of my ancestors came from Sutton-under-Whitestonecliffe, near Thirsk, but my gazeteer also has also a Sutton near Keighley, Sutton Howgrave, Sutton Grange, Sutton Bank, Sutton-on-Hull, Sutton-on-the-Forest, Sutton-upon-Derwent and who knows how many others I've missed? All in all, in the whole of the UK, I believe there are probably somewhere between 30 and 50 places called Sutton. And, of course, very often in the censuses we find that a local enumerator simply assumed that the name mentioned was the local one he was familiar with, not realising there were other places of the name, which can lead to lots of confusion! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

All these 'Lund' places indicate why one should add West, East or North Yorkshire as the case may be. It is not enough to just say Yorkshire. There are many other places with the same name in different Ridings. I am Hessle born in East Riding and before I started my family tree I had no idea that there was an Hessle in West Riding. Victor On 24/08/2012 1:53 PM, Helen Vaillancourt wrote: > "My" Lund is the one near Beverley. I have found photos of the area so thank > you to the people who responded. > > helen > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Helen There are several Lunds as I found when I was following up the ancestors birth places on the census returns. There is a Lund village which is no more than a hamlet  of  few houses in Hemingbrough village. http://hemingbrough.net/index.html  This is a good web site.  Not too far away in Gateforth is a Lund farm http://www.lundfarm.co.uk/ Both of these places are covered by Selby FHS. http://www.selbydistrictfamilyhistory.btck.co.uk/ I think the other Lund is near Doncaster. I did not need to follow this one up as the Hemingbrough PRs gave me the evidence I needed to fix my ancestors. The Borthwick has a transcription of Hemingbrough PRs. I believe the SOG has them as well. Reading the microfiche of the originals is not easy. The Rev Potter's writing is difficult. The original records though do contain items such as an appeal to restore the organ and a list of all the donors. Lund in Hemingbrough is just in the old ERY and Lund farm is just in WRY.  HTH Chris ________________________________ From: Helen Vaillancourt <lucy@efni.com> To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 20:01 Subject: [YORKSGEN] Lund and Bishop Burton I am looking for someone who lives near these towns, near Beverly, who'd take some photos for me. Please contact me off line at lucy@efni.com ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone look at the 1851 census for me, I can't make it out. On the record for Susan Sykes, born in 1795, wife of George, and living in Liversedge, her place of birth has been transcribed as ARNCLIFF. I can't make Arncliff out of it; to me it looks more like ARNDALE. Nothing in the region of Liversedge seems to fit the bill. Many thanks Eric

Thank you Colin for your help. I will have a look at these websites. Kind regards Margaret -----Original Message----- From: Colin B. Withers [mailto:Colin.Withers@eumetsat.int] Sent: 24 August 2012 09:30 To: 'Margaret O'Shea'; YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [YORKSGEN] Memorial of an Indenture A good explanation of the Lease and Release process can be found on the University of Nottingham website: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/manuscriptsandspecialcollections/researchguidanc e/deedsindepth/freehold/leaserelease.aspx They also provide an example of an Indenture, showing the wavy line (indented) that the original deed or contract was cut along for the two (or more) parties, so they could be fitted back together at any future date to demonstrate authenticity. http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/manuscriptsandspecialcollections/researchguidanc e/deedsindepth/copyhold/enfranchisement.aspx Colin -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret O'Shea Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:17 AM To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Memorial of an Indenture Please can someone explain the difference between "A Memorial of an Indenture" and "a Memorial of Indentures of Lease and Release". I have the following documents: 14 May 1810  “A Memorial of an Indenture” of four parts- being my ancestor Robert and Wm Danby of Guisborough, Robert Walker of Liverton and John Wardell of Guisborough – this relates to the farm where they lived and is 50 acres or upwards. 11 & 12 November 1813 “A Memorial of Indentures of Lease and Release” between my ancestor Robert (one part) and  Richard Agar of Danby, Thomas Weatherill of Danby (the other part) and the release being of three parts and made between my ancestor and wife Sarah (1st part), John Wardell of Guisborough (2nd part) and Richard Agar and Thomas Wetherill.  This relates to about 55 acres at the same farm so is this likely to be the same land even though apart from John Wardell the other parties are different. The 55 acres would only form part of the farm as the whole of their holdings of this farm and the adjacent farm came to about 250 acres. >From the British Library Newspaper Archive On-Line I have found that >both farms were up for sale late in 1815. I know that solicitors had a caretaker for the main farm in August 1813 and letters from the caretaker to the solicitors show that both the farm and the caretaker were having a very hard time. I am trying to work out what happened between the 1806 will of my ancestor Thomas and the point when the farms were sold in 1815. In May 1808, eight months after his death the friends that he had named as executors and trustees renounced their obligations under his will and his widow also renounced her rights. At the same time sons Robert and Thomas seem to have been given the power of administration relating to the will but a large bond of £600 was mentioned in the paperwork relating to this. Margaret (Oxford) ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message