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    1. [YORKSGEN] WDYTYA? Patrick Stewart
    2. I have just watched tonight's episode of Who Do Think You Are? about the actor Patrick Stewart, born at Mirfield in 1940. I don't think I have ever seen such a superb and moving programme in this entire series (and I mean all series ever since it started). Possibly Stewart being such a brilliant actor made it all the more watchable, however I thought the fact that the entire programme revolved around his search for the psychological truth about his war hero father - who was also in later life a violent wife-beater - was utterly compelling television. It just went to show that you don't have to take someone's ancestry back centuries and many generations to make family history utterly fascinating. Do listers agree? When I looked him up with Google I realised that Patrick Stewart was born just nine days after me! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    08/29/2012 04:20:18
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Off Topic - Scotlandspeople
    2. Lin
    3. Thank you to everyone who replied with offers of help and advice. Lin PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS On 28/08/2012 22:05, Lin wrote: > This is partly Yorkshire related as a branch of mine departed to north > of the border (how dare they! vbg). > > Does anyone know of a way of searching effectively Scotlandspeople as it > seems such a rip off to do a search, pay to view each page of results > and then pay to view the image without even knowing I've got the right > people as there doesn't seem to be a way of inputting place of birth > into the search engine and as to the 1911 census.........! > > Lin

    08/29/2012 12:07:06
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Off Topic - Scotlandspeople
    2. Frank Turner
    3. I would fully endorse Roy's appraisal of the GROS which is located at the east end of Princes St. in a magnificent building. A day ticket is undoubtedly the way to go and if you hurry you will just catch the tail end of the Festival as a bonus. The one snag is as ever, bring a brolly. Cheers Frank from Bonnie (soggy) Scotland My words, what an eye opener compared with the GRO for England and Wales! The Scottish birth, marriage and death records are simply wonderful, even though they didn't start until January 1855. As Nivard says, after you've paid the daily fee (£18 at the time, as far as I recall), you could then see everything (including the more recent records) and get printout copies of BMDs from the registers for just 50p. You don't need to buy the full certificates because the registers contain everything you need to know. Scottish birth registers give not only the full names of the parents but the actual date and location of their marriage, so you don't need to go searching for it. The marriage registers give the parents of both parties (mother as well as father) and death registers also show the parenthood of the deceased. I know that within a couple of days I had got my MPs ancestry back to a full complement of gt-gt-grandparents, a number of whom had come from Ireland. It may be more convenient to use ScotlandsPeople online (and I have no intention to getting into the debate about whether it's value for money or not) but I would advise anyone with Scottish ancestry to go to Edinburgh and the GROS just once in their life. And, of course, Edinburgh is a wonderful city for a holiday anyway! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/29/2012 09:06:59
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Off Topic - Scotlandspeople
    2. Martin Briscoe
    3. I forgot to mention earlier that Radio Scotland do a family history series occasionally, Digging up your roots. It is well worth listening to even for people outside Scotland because some of the things covered are of general interest. Their experts also look into a few queries from listeners. There is a bit of information on their website, during the series the podcasts can be downloaded so no problems with iPlayer for people outside the UK. The webpages for previous programmes still seem to be available. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007rv8d If you subscribe to the podcast then you should receive a link when the next series starts, probably in the new year. http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/genealogy Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk

    08/29/2012 06:27:28
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Off Topic - Scotlandspeople
    2. From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> > Anyone who is lucky enough to get to scotland can buy a day pass and > view all they want to just paying for print outs< A few years ago I was fortunate enough to spend a few days researching at the General Register Office for Scotland in Edinburgh and what a fantastic experience it was! Of course, my wife and younger son and I made a holiday of it as well, also my expenses were largely met by the fee for a subsequent article in the former Practical Family History magazine (which sadly folded at the end of 2010). I did a lengthy series for the mag on famous family trees and one of my subjects was our former MP for Watford who was a Labour Whip at the time. Although she was born in England, both parents were from Glasgow and I was unable to do everything via ScotlandsPeople because the newer records, as most know, have time limits on them. Therefore, I had to go up to Edinburgh. My words, what an eye opener compared with the GRO for England and Wales! The Scottish birth, marriage and death records are simply wonderful, even though they didn't start until January 1855. As Nivard says, after you've paid the daily fee (£18 at the time, as far as I recall), you could then see everything (including the more recent records) and get printout copies of BMDs from the registers for just 50p. You don't need to buy the full certificates because the registers contain everything you need to know. Scottish birth registers give not only the full names of the parents but the actual date and location of their marriage, so you don't need to go searching for it. The marriage registers give the parents of both parties (mother as well as father) and death registers also show the parenthood of the deceased. I know that within a couple of days I had got my MPs ancestry back to a full complement of gt-gt-grandparents, a number of whom had come from Ireland. It may be more convenient to use ScotlandsPeople online (and I have no intention to getting into the debate about whether it's value for money or not) but I would advise anyone with Scottish ancestry to go to Edinburgh and the GROS just once in their life. And, of course, Edinburgh is a wonderful city for a holiday anyway! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    08/29/2012 05:55:30
    1. [YORKSGEN] Dalys of Leeds
    2. I am looking for information regarding the possible descendants of John Daly and Margaret Coughlan who came to Leeds in about 1911. John Daly was born in c. 1862 in Cork. Margaret Coughlan was born in about 1886. John may have worked in the clothing industry in Leeds. They had one son George. They were probably married in Cork City. There is a death record for a John Daly in Yorkshire in 1932, >From the American branch of the family in America

    08/29/2012 04:23:42
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Off Topic - Scotlandspeople
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi again Victor and Lin Although there are problems with scotlandspeople (its of the same stable as findmypast so no great surprise there) and extracting information from it, you do have to weigh up the pro's with the con's The census can be a pain to get to the right family in same cases but think back to how it could be done previously, the journey to Scotland or a paid researcher would be a whole lot more than buying some credits and searching from home The Pro's - if you are careful and use the free search to narrow down the possibilities you can get five birth, marriage or death registration (5 credits for five search results and 25 credits for five images at 5 credits each) and all from the comfort of your own home (as its 7gbp for 30 credits thats 1.40 per registration image, compared to 9gbp for an English cert) plus Scotlands registration system generally records more information than the English/Welsh ones (although it starts later in 1855) Using the census transcripts on Ancestry or Findmypast for 1841 to 1901 you can often narrow the people down to the right ones and then use scotlands people The Cons - the biggest problem is the stilted search engine which does not allow certain criteria to be searched for, clearly done to extract more revenue, although they deny that Later registrations can not be seen online (under 100 for births, 75 for marriages and 50 for deaths) but if you find one in that category you can use a researcher in Scotland who will transcribe the details for much less than a cert costs in England So there are two sides to it Anyone who is lucky enough to get to scotland can buy a day pass and view all they want to just paying for print outs Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/08/2012 09:11, Victor Markham wrote: > Lin > > Glad to see that I am not the only one who consider this rip off. > > As you said a credit is used to do a search and another five is used to > view the results. If there were lots of results involving more than one > page you have to use credits for each page you view. One also to be > careful as when you view the results it leads to a page with a tick on > inviting you to order the certificate costing 12gbp. I did order 2 > marriage certificates without using credits to view. The least they > could do is if you use credits to view then order the certificates they > could have offered to refund the view credits. No such offer was > indicated. Like I said I did not view but then knew they were the right > people and as things turned out they were.

    08/29/2012 03:55:01
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Off Topic - Scotlandspeople
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Victor I am sure it was just a slip but this Scarlet Pimpernel is of the same gender as the original (well the character at least :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I subscribed to the Glasgow mailing list (like Yorksgen) and posted what > I was looking for. I got a shock when Nivard answered! Didn't know she > was on that list and told her she was like a scarlet pimpernel being > here, there and every where!

    08/29/2012 03:26:58
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Off Topic - Scotlandspeople
    2. Victor Markham
    3. Lin Glad to see that I am not the only one who consider this rip off. As you said a credit is used to do a search and another five is used to view the results. If there were lots of results involving more than one page you have to use credits for each page you view. One also to be careful as when you view the results it leads to a page with a tick on inviting you to order the certificate costing 12gbp. I did order 2 marriage certificates without using credits to view. The least they could do is if you use credits to view then order the certificates they could have offered to refund the view credits. No such offer was indicated. Like I said I did not view but then knew they were the right people and as things turned out they were. I subscribed to the Glasgow mailing list (like Yorksgen) and posted what I was looking for. I got a shock when Nivard answered! Didn't know she was on that list and told her she was like a scarlet pimpernel being here, there and every where! Anyway I did get a reply from a very helpful lady and she went to the Glasgow archives looked up some details which she posted to me (I refunded her costs). She also did other things which I am not going to mention here but what she did helped me find what I was looking for. It was all in connection with the SCOULAR family. One can look for one of the Scottish mailing list and subscribe to that. I have got everything I wanted for this family. Well not quite. I would have liked details of the NELLIE family but a search on Scottish People revealed over 50 results which, as I said before, meant a number of credits per page view. However this family is not important so I declined to pay all these credits. Victor On 28/08/2012 10:05 PM, Lin wrote: > This is partly Yorkshire related as a branch of mine departed to north > of the border (how dare they! vbg). > > Does anyone know of a way of searching effectively Scotlandspeople as it > seems such a rip off to do a search, pay to view each page of results > and then pay to view the image without even knowing I've got the right > people as there doesn't seem to be a way of inputting place of birth > into the search engine and as to the 1911 census.........! > > Lin

    08/29/2012 03:11:31
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Off Topic - Scotlandspeople
    2. Martin Briscoe
    3. By the way, when you buy credits for Scotland's People they expire after a time but they remain available if you buy more credits. Occasionally there are some free credits given away newspapers, magazines etc. When these are used any old "dormant" ones are reactivated. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk

    08/28/2012 06:20:36
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Off Topic - Scotlandspeople
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Lin As Martin suggests use FMP or Ancestry to find the entry and then buy the image, both have the 1841 to 1901 transcripts With the 1911 you can use keywords but its not that easy (certainly not as easy as it should be) they also have street indexes If you have not got that far the 1911 is not like the English/Welsh schedules filled in by the householder, Scotland transcribed theirs and destroyed the schedules BMD are another matter As that is not Yorkshire I am happy to discuss offlist if you wish, I have been fighting with scotlandspeople for some years :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 28/08/2012 22:05, Lin wrote: > This is partly Yorkshire related as a branch of mine departed to north > of the border (how dare they! vbg). > > Does anyone know of a way of searching effectively Scotlandspeople as it > seems such a rip off to do a search, pay to view each page of results > and then pay to view the image without even knowing I've got the right > people as there doesn't seem to be a way of inputting place of birth > into the search engine and as to the 1911 census.........! > > Lin >

    08/28/2012 05:08:41
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Off Topic - Scotlandspeople
    2. Martin Briscoe
    3. It can be difficult but it is surprising how many times it is possible to get quite quickly to a small range of results. At least you can go straight to getting a copy of the record. It is particularly difficult if you have no idea where to look for someone but that is always the case though at least with England you have a chance to do some searching free. Ancestry and FMP now have (most of?) the Scottish censuses though not the full images, just a transcription. There are some good FHS, I was a member of the Aberdeen and NE Scotland FHS for some time because it gave me access to the English BMD before they were online. There are some very comprehensive references for the Western Isles in a series of books published by one researcher. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sent: 28 August 2012 22:06 To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Off Topic - Scotlandspeople This is partly Yorkshire related as a branch of mine departed to north of the border (how dare they! vbg). Does anyone know of a way of searching effectively Scotlandspeople as it seems such a rip off to do a search, pay to view each page of results and then pay to view the image without even knowing I've got the right people as there doesn't seem to be a way of inputting place of birth into the search engine and as to the 1911 census.........! Lin

    08/28/2012 04:43:32
    1. [YORKSGEN] Off Topic - Scotlandspeople
    2. Lin
    3. This is partly Yorkshire related as a branch of mine departed to north of the border (how dare they! vbg). Does anyone know of a way of searching effectively Scotlandspeople as it seems such a rip off to do a search, pay to view each page of results and then pay to view the image without even knowing I've got the right people as there doesn't seem to be a way of inputting place of birth into the search engine and as to the 1911 census.........! Lin -- PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS

    08/28/2012 04:05:59
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA
    2. Lin
    3. Thank you to Mary Lou, Nivard, Margaret and Jane for the suggestions regarding the above, which I am following up. Lin PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS On 26/08/2012 17:08, Lin wrote: > Can anyone tell me what industry Dunn and Witt were involved with? > > Thanks > > Lin

    08/28/2012 02:50:00
    1. [YORKSGEN] Dalys of Leeds
    2. Looking for info on John Daly married to Margaret Coughlan with son George Daly. Came from Cork in about June of 1911. American branch of the Daly family

    08/28/2012 01:00:32
    1. [YORKSGEN] Not strictly genealogy but I am looking for someone (QUIRK /LUNGU /WATSON-THOMAS)
    2. Hello all I am trying to find Patrick G Watson-Thomas who I have seen was on the electoral list for Leeds in 2002 (192.com) Patrick G Watson-Thomas Leeds, West Yorkshire, LS8 Victoria M Lungu Gillian A Quirk Sarah J Quirk He may also have been there 2003-2004. Patrick would have been about 73 then. He is from Kent/London area. I am hoping he has still kept his double-barrelled surname and hasn't dropped the Watson or I could be in for quite a search! If anybody can help with his whereabouts I would be very pleased to hear from them, or indeed the other ladies who may be able to help me. Many thanks for reading this Pat

    08/28/2012 02:56:09
    1. [YORKSGEN] Will of Jeremiah JACKSON 1819 (Knaresborough Wills AA015)
    2. John Lindley
    3. I am trying to find births and marriages of those mentioned in the will abstract below my signature, principally with a view to finding more out about Ann Linley, the executrix. It looks as though Clemmett (Clemmont) Barrett may be in Knaresborough in 1841, and there also seems to be a household in Knaresborough in 1841 with Jeremiah and John Gott (in spite of the ‘of Sheffield’ mention). The Jacksons may have come from Otley and there is a marriage between a Sarah Jackson and a James Calvert at Guiseley in 1769. The problem with the others is either no information or too much. If anyone spots a familiar name and knows how it fits in I would be grateful for some leads. John Lindley North Yorkshire . . Jeremiah Jackson - 2nd February 1819 - AA015 (Knaresborough Wills) Knaresborough Yeoman "To my nephew Jeremiah Gott of Knaresborough all my clothes and wearing apparel. Also £10. To my nephew-in-law Clemmett Barrett £10. To my niece Elizabeth Barrick £5. To my nephew John Gott of Sheffield £5. To my niece Grace Laycock £5. To my nephew Thomas Harrison £10. To my niece Elizabeth Dore of Leeds £8. To my niece Ann Kaynes £8. To my nephew James Pounder £5. To each of my nephews and nieces, the children of my brother William Jackson, £7. To each of my nephews and nieces, the children of my sister Sarah Calvert, £7. To my niece Ann Linley £30, whom I appoint executor. The residue of my estate to my nephews and nieces, Elizabeth Barrick, John Gott, Grace Laycock, and James Pounder. Witnesses:Martin Richardson, Ann Smith" Died 4th February 1819. Probate 13th May 1819. Effects under £300.

    08/27/2012 05:49:09
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA
    2. Jane Hansen
    3. Further information from the biography of George C Witt of Cincinnati in "Cincinnati, the Queen City 1788-1912 Volume 3" published by S J Clarke. A free ebook on Google books "After leaving college he learned the roofing and cornice business with his uncle who was a member of the firm Dunn and Witt" This nephew George late founded and was President of the Witt Cornice Company, tin and slate roofers. The company also manufactured ornamental copper and galvanized iron cornices, window caps, door caps and sky-lights etc. Jane

    08/27/2012 09:05:08
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] registration information
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Libe I was surprised not to see more replies on this Without seeing the entries its hard to be sure but sounds as if Margaret was indeed born to an unmarried mother, but her father may have subsequently been found to be LIGHT (depending on the circumstances, year etc he may have been in an ongoing relationship with the mother but just not married) The marriage is seemingly registered twice (presumably with the same reference?) as the mother gave her name as SPENCER aka LIGHT The answer is most likely to be answered by obtaining the certificate(s) of course As to implications - you will find all manner of reasons that may stop you finding all the correct marriages, births or deaths of those you seek, mainly as humans get involved in the process They miss things, wrongly record things, mix letters and words up, give misleading information, lie through their teeth etc etc Then yet more people transcribe or make those indexes available and in so doing add another layer of human error Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26/08/2012 09:24, libe wrote: > Hello everyone, > > My query is regarding registration details not necessarily Yorkshire > but it may have implications for any area. > > I wonder if any one can explain/confirm why this situation has > arisen. > > This information is regarding a ‘living’ family therefore I do not > want to give their actual names on site, so I have changed them > > On Ancestry.co.uk - I have a person born Margaret Spencer (mother’s > maiden name Spencer) > > 19 years later she gets married to Andrew Chase. > > However there are two marriage registrations for Andrew Chase, in the > same area, year and quarter > > One marries a Margaret Spencer and one a Margaret Light. > > There are then 3 children born the eldest born to Chase maiden > name Spencer, the next two to Chase maiden name Light ( I do know > for certain that these children are from the same parents) > > Following a marriage split Margaret then reverts to the last name > Spencer. > > I am assuming rightly or wrongly that when Margaret was born her own > mother was unmarried and either went on to marry a Light (although I > cannot find a marriage) or that Margaret was adopted by the Light > family, are there any other suggestions? > > Also does anyone know why she was recorded as been married twice > under different last names, is this common practice, plus why were > two maiden names used for her own children. > > Has anyone come across this before, my concern is that this could > have real implications for people like me who search for marriages > and children using actual and maiden names. > > Because if I had used only the names Spencer and Chase I would not > have found the other two children and vice versa > > Libe Hast

    08/27/2012 04:17:59
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] registration information
    2. STEVE HARDICRE
    3. Libe,   There is another possibility.  Do you know who the biological father of Margaret Spencer is?  My grandmother used her biological father's name when she married and as a maiden name on the birth certificates of her children, but her parents were never married and her father died 10 years before she married.   If Margaret knew who her biological father was she may have used his surname to give the impression her mother was married, and thus avoid the associated disgrace of being born to an unwed woman.   Just an idea worth investigating if you don't know the father's name.   Steve Hardicre ________________________________ From: "yorksgen-request@rootsweb.com" <yorksgen-request@rootsweb.com> To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 27 August 2012, 8:01 Subject: YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 391 Today's Topics:   1. Re: registration information (libe)   2. Re: registration information (Kim Groothuis)   3. Re: Free BMD (Carole Edwards Caruso)   4. Re: Free BMD (Nivard Ovington)   5. Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA (Lin)   6. Re: Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA (Lin)   7. Re: Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA       (Nivard Ovington) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:24:44 +0100 From: "libe" <libehast@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] registration information To: <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <ED3C8E69B3B4465B8B19C2D2E30D8175@JohnandPamPC> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="Windows-1252" Hello everyone, My query is regarding registration details not necessarily Yorkshire but it may have implications for any area. I wonder if any one can explain/confirm why this situation has arisen. This information is regarding a ?living? family therefore I do not want to give their actual names on site, so I have changed them On Ancestry.co.uk - I have a person born Margaret Spencer (mother?s maiden name Spencer) 19 years later she gets married to Andrew Chase. However there are two marriage registrations for Andrew Chase, in the same area, year and quarter One marries a Margaret Spencer and one a Margaret Light. There are  then  3 children born the eldest born to  Chase maiden name Spencer, the next two to  Chase maiden name Light ( I do know for certain that these children are from the same parents) Following a marriage split Margaret then reverts  to the last name Spencer. I am assuming rightly or wrongly that when Margaret was born her own mother was unmarried and either went on to marry a Light (although I cannot find a marriage) or that Margaret was adopted by the Light family, are there any other suggestions? Also does anyone  know why she was recorded as been married twice under different last names, is this common practice, plus why were two maiden names used for her own children. Has anyone come across this before, my concern is  that this could have real implications for people like me who search for marriages and  children using actual and maiden names. Because if I had used only the names Spencer and Chase I would not have found the other two children and vice versa Libe Hast ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 12:02:06 +0100 (BST) From: Kim Groothuis <kimsfamilyhistory@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] registration information To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com, libe <libehast@googlemail.com> Message-ID:     <1345978926.22175.YahooMailClassic@web171602.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Libe I agree with your assumption about Margaret's surname (became the stepchild or adopted child of a Light). If there was more than one name she could be known by, her marriage to Andrew Chase would be registered in both names, using words such as 'Margaret Spencer otherwise Light'.? I have seen two similar examples within the last 20 years. The childrens' births could well have used the same or similar words, and been transcribed differently (if you are looking at a transcription), ie different transcribers made different choices about what is the maiden name.? Alternatively Margaret could have given different maiden names and the certificates could have different maiden names; for example if she was answering different questions ('what was your name before you were married' or 'what was your name at birth'). Kim? --- On Sun, 26/8/12, libe <libehast@googlemail.com> wrote: On Ancestry.co.uk - I have a person born Margaret Spencer (mother?s maiden name Spencer) 19 years later she gets married to Andrew Chase. However there are two marriage registrations for Andrew Chase, in the same area, year and quarter One marries a Margaret Spencer and one a Margaret Light. There are? then? 3 children born the eldest born to? Chase maiden name Spencer, the next two to? Chase maiden name Light ( I do know for certain that these children are from the same parents) Following a marriage split Margaret then reverts? to the last name Spencer. I am assuming rightly or wrongly that when Margaret was born her own mother was unmarried and either went on to marry a Light (although I cannot find a marriage) or that Margaret was adopted by the Light family, are there any other suggestions? Also does anyone? know why she was recorded as been married twice under different last names, is this common practice, plus why were two maiden names used for her own children. Libe Hast ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:25:01 -0400 From: "Carole Edwards Caruso" <carolec@stny.rr.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Free BMD To: <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <190276F20EDE48798E5369AA68074C73@Blackie> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original >I have a problem viewing the final image on Free BMD. >My problem is that when I click the spectacles  icon to >view the image, >it just shows a blank white page. I, too, am having a problem viewing the final image on Free BMD. I am using W7, 64 bit, Firefox vers. 14.0.1, which, I think, is the latest update. I think the problem started when I updated Firefox. Everything works fine with XP and an older version of Firefox. So where do we go from here? Carole ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 14:56:09 +0100 From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Free BMD To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <503A2AF9.8030205@sky.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Carole I have a laptop with W7 64bit and both IE and Firefox with latest updates work just fine so its not either browser as such but could be a setting in the browser I wonder what anti virus you use? Norton or McAfee by any chance ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I, too, am having a problem viewing the final image on Free > BMD. > > I am using W7, 64 bit, Firefox vers. 14.0.1, which, I think, > is the latest update. > > I think the problem started when I updated Firefox. > > Everything works fine with XP and an older version of > Firefox. > > So where do we go from here? > > Carole ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:08:10 +0100 From: Lin <dml5481@hotmail.com> Subject: [YORKSGEN] Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP326A18C36FE63BA6DBE9030A2A30@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Can anyone tell me what industry Dunn and Witt were involved with? Thanks Lin -- PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:46:07 +0100 From: Lin <dml5481@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA To: Mlou1173@aol.com, YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP75D2FAA011A9E9212EB74EA2A30@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Hi Mary Lou I'm afraid I've no idea. I just came across a possible family member in the City Directory - just gave his name, with 'wks Dunn and Witt'.  Knowing what Dunn and Witt did would hopefully tell me if  I have a match. Lin PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS On 26/08/2012 17:41, Mlou1173@aol.com wrote: > Hi Lin......they "may" have been involved in street cars. Does that fit? > mary lou > In a message dated 8/26/2012 10:10:56 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > dml5481@hotmail.com writes: > >    Can anyone tell me what industry Dunn and Witt were involved with? > >    Thanks > >    Lin >    -- >    PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE >    Bcc BOX >    FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS >    ..... >    Ancestors in Yorkshire? >    http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; >    www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; >    www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > >    ------------------------------- >    To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >    YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >    the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:46:07 +0100 From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <503A60DF.8080307@sky.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Lin If you go to Archive.org and enter Cuyahoga you will find several books on the County The 1879 History lists a WITT but not a DUNN & WITT but other books may help you The 1870 WITTs in Cuyahoga are either a labourer, a carpenter and a Blacksmith all the older males were from Prussia Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26/08/2012 17:08, Lin wrote: > Can anyone tell me what industry Dunn and Witt were involved with? > > Thanks > > Lin > ------------------------------ To contact the YORKSGEN list administrator, send an email to YORKSGEN-admin@rootsweb.com. 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