I am looking for help. I have found my Great great grandfather (Richard Stephenson) in the in 1851 census. He is in the township of Minster Yard with Beden in York. The house name is Minster Yard, I assume it is a boarding School teaching medicine. The head "Thomas Hanley Barker" is a member of the Royal College of Surgeons etc. I know Richard went on to a medical apprenticeship in November 1851. What I am asking is, can anybody tell me any more about this school. Thanks in anticipation. -- Regards, Laurence E Stephenson http://sites.google.com/site/convictstart/ I am Researching:- Butcher..............Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Buttigieg............Tripoli, Libya Fortune..............Berwickshire, Scotland Garlick...............Liverpool, Lancashire, England Mee....................Kilflyn, Limerick, Ireland (Palatine) Payne................Washingborough, Lincolnshire, England Ritchie...............Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, Scotland Stephenson.....Pickering, Yorkshire, England Wittick...... ........(Convict) Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Thank you, Colin! How generous and kind of you! So much research and work is represented here. EE -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colin B. Withers Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 3:02 AM To: Yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Major Updates to three East Riding One-Place Studies I am finally nearing the end of all the transcription of the material I collected during the last Yorksgen for my three One-Place Studies (Aughton, Bubwith and Ellerton in the East Riding). The updates so far include: AUGHTON and ELLERTON Archbishops' Visitations: Very useful in understanding the extent of non-conformity in a parish; the state of education; charities within the parish; presence of alms-houses; state and condition of any chapels; the enthusiasm, or lack of it, which which the parishioners attended their church; and an indication of the general prosperity, or lack of it, throughout the parish. Both Aughton and Ellerton were quite poor parishes. Archdeacons' Visitations: Where the 'moral crimes' of the parishioners were dealt with. Here can often be found the origins of bastardy. The churchwardens were not reticent about naming putative fathers and the unhappy couple would be named and shamed and made to perform humiliating Penances. Even couples that married, but had a baby within 9 months of their marriage, would be charged with pre-nuptial fornication. Also to be found are parishioners being presented for non-attendance at their parish church (recusants were frequently cited for this), and failure to pay their church 'sess' (short for 'assessment', or the church or parish rates as they later became known). This was often an indicator of non-conformity, but some care should be taken as sometimes the reason for non-payment was financial, rather than non-conformity. Faculties: As well as the normal business of Faculties (permission to alter the fabric of a church, by installing new pews, for example), the Faculty Books also recorded requests to establish dissenters' meeting house. The Toleration Act 1689 allowed protestant dissenters to hold meetings openly, provided that the places where such meetings were held were registered with either the diocesan bishop or the justices of the peace. The Faculty Books show such requests from 1737-1816 and are often accompanied by the names of several sponsors to the requests, showing early Methodist or Quaker supporters. Terriers: These show the exent of lands and income of the parish church. Ellerton held very few lands and so their terriers are brief, but there are two interesting additional documents in the terriers box at the Borthwick: a statement of the Rights of both Aughton and Ellerton (and the chapelry at East Cottingwith) in 1716, and a Petition from the Vicar of Ellerton dated 1764. Land Tax Assessments: 1783-1809 Parish Documents: The extent of availability of parish documents, in addition to the parish registers, has been uploaded. These cover such things as Churchwardens', Overseers', and Surveyors' Accounts. In addition to the above, I have uploaded a WWI Roll of Honour for Ellerton and the Clergy List for Aughton 1227-1911 BUBWITH Two new additions: 1. A Citation of the 1670s which charged many parishioners with recusancy. For this reason I have placed this in the Non-Conformity section, rather than the Archdeacons' Visitation section. 2. A detailed survey of the Manor of Breighton undertaken by Archbishop Sharp circa 1695, but with the details of all the leases encompassing a period over 20 years before his incumbency, and continued by his successors, i.e. 1671-1771. There is more to come, and I wil be spending the next month transcribing the Aughton Churchwardens' Accounts and the Ellerton Overseers of the Poor accounts. Hope there is something here that is of some help to you, Colin http://www.aughton.info/ http://www.bubwith.net/ http://www.ellerton.info/ ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan, I have lost your proper URL. Can you contact me as soon as possible. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/) _Elkington@rootsweb.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/)

I am finally nearing the end of all the transcription of the material I collected during the last Yorksgen for my three One-Place Studies (Aughton, Bubwith and Ellerton in the East Riding). The updates so far include: AUGHTON and ELLERTON Archbishops' Visitations: Very useful in understanding the extent of non-conformity in a parish; the state of education; charities within the parish; presence of alms-houses; state and condition of any chapels; the enthusiasm, or lack of it, which which the parishioners attended their church; and an indication of the general prosperity, or lack of it, throughout the parish. Both Aughton and Ellerton were quite poor parishes. Archdeacons' Visitations: Where the 'moral crimes' of the parishioners were dealt with. Here can often be found the origins of bastardy. The churchwardens were not reticent about naming putative fathers and the unhappy couple would be named and shamed and made to perform humiliating Penances. Even couples that married, but had a baby within 9 months of their marriage, would be charged with pre-nuptial fornication. Also to be found are parishioners being presented for non-attendance at their parish church (recusants were frequently cited for this), and failure to pay their church 'sess' (short for 'assessment', or the church or parish rates as they later became known). This was often an indicator of non-conformity, but some care should be taken as sometimes the reason for non-payment was financial, rather than non-conformity. Faculties: As well as the normal business of Faculties (permission to alter the fabric of a church, by installing new pews, for example), the Faculty Books also recorded requests to establish dissenters' meeting house. The Toleration Act 1689 allowed protestant dissenters to hold meetings openly, provided that the places where such meetings were held were registered with either the diocesan bishop or the justices of the peace. The Faculty Books show such requests from 1737-1816 and are often accompanied by the names of several sponsors to the requests, showing early Methodist or Quaker supporters. Terriers: These show the exent of lands and income of the parish church. Ellerton held very few lands and so their terriers are brief, but there are two interesting additional documents in the terriers box at the Borthwick: a statement of the Rights of both Aughton and Ellerton (and the chapelry at East Cottingwith) in 1716, and a Petition from the Vicar of Ellerton dated 1764. Land Tax Assessments: 1783-1809 Parish Documents: The extent of availability of parish documents, in addition to the parish registers, has been uploaded. These cover such things as Churchwardens', Overseers', and Surveyors' Accounts. In addition to the above, I have uploaded a WWI Roll of Honour for Ellerton and the Clergy List for Aughton 1227-1911 BUBWITH Two new additions: 1. A Citation of the 1670s which charged many parishioners with recusancy. For this reason I have placed this in the Non-Conformity section, rather than the Archdeacons' Visitation section. 2. A detailed survey of the Manor of Breighton undertaken by Archbishop Sharp circa 1695, but with the details of all the leases encompassing a period over 20 years before his incumbency, and continued by his successors, i.e. 1671-1771. There is more to come, and I wil be spending the next month transcribing the Aughton Churchwardens' Accounts and the Ellerton Overseers of the Poor accounts. Hope there is something here that is of some help to you, Colin http://www.aughton.info/ http://www.bubwith.net/ http://www.ellerton.info/

Hi You should also check the parish maps for York. 'Minster Yard' and 'Bedern' are small extra parochial areas near the Minster. It may be that the reference is to a house within this small area. Geoff Blyth -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Woodall Sent: 16 September 2012 10:35 To: Laurence E Stephenson; Yorkshire Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Richard Stephenson 1851 census Laurence - looking at the census I think Minster Yard refers to the street rather than a house as several records give Minster Yard as the 'property' name. Street directories for the period might help? best wishes Jane -----Original Message----- From: Laurence E Stephenson Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:07 AM To: Yorkshire Subject: [YORKSGEN] Richard Stephenson 1851 census I am looking for help. I have found my Great great grandfather (Richard Stephenson) in the in 1851 census. He is in the township of Minster Yard with Beden in York. The house name is Minster Yard, I assume it is a boarding School teaching medicine. The head "Thomas Hanley Barker" is a member of the Royal College of Surgeons etc. I know Richard went on to a medical apprenticeship in November 1851. What I am asking is, can anybody tell me any more about this school. Thanks in anticipation. -- Regards, Laurence E Stephenson http://sites.google.com/site/convictstart/ I am Researching:- Butcher..............Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Buttigieg............Tripoli, Libya Fortune..............Berwickshire, Scotland Garlick...............Liverpool, Lancashire, England Mee....................Kilflyn, Limerick, Ireland (Palatine) Payne................Washingborough, Lincolnshire, England Ritchie...............Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, Scotland Stephenson.....Pickering, Yorkshire, England Wittick...... ........(Convict) Walsall, Staffordshire, England ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Laurence - looking at the census I think Minster Yard refers to the street rather than a house as several records give Minster Yard as the 'property' name. Street directories for the period might help? best wishes Jane -----Original Message----- From: Laurence E Stephenson Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:07 AM To: Yorkshire Subject: [YORKSGEN] Richard Stephenson 1851 census I am looking for help. I have found my Great great grandfather (Richard Stephenson) in the in 1851 census. He is in the township of Minster Yard with Beden in York. The house name is Minster Yard, I assume it is a boarding School teaching medicine. The head "Thomas Hanley Barker" is a member of the Royal College of Surgeons etc. I know Richard went on to a medical apprenticeship in November 1851. What I am asking is, can anybody tell me any more about this school. Thanks in anticipation. -- Regards, Laurence E Stephenson http://sites.google.com/site/convictstart/ I am Researching:- Butcher..............Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Buttigieg............Tripoli, Libya Fortune..............Berwickshire, Scotland Garlick...............Liverpool, Lancashire, England Mee....................Kilflyn, Limerick, Ireland (Palatine) Payne................Washingborough, Lincolnshire, England Ritchie...............Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, Scotland Stephenson.....Pickering, Yorkshire, England Wittick...... ........(Convict) Walsall, Staffordshire, England ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries . The York Herald, and General Advertiser (York, England), Saturday, July 17, 1847 On Friday the 16th inst at the Centernary Chapel, York by the Rev C Cheetham, Mr Thomas Wiseman of Fulford, late coachmaker, of this city to Mrs Willah of this city. The bridegroom has now been married five times, is in his 88th year and made his own coffin 27 years ago. The happy bride has has four husbands and is about 56. No relation – just spotted it and thought I’d share for amusement Jane

https://sites.google.com/site/stepfamilytree/the-docyor Hi Laurence Have you come across this website written by a descendant of Richard? Jane Chasing W(h)eldrake/drick - any variation, anytime, anywhere -----Original Message----- From: Laurence E Stephenson Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:07 AM To: Yorkshire Subject: [YORKSGEN] Richard Stephenson 1851 census I am looking for help. I have found my Great great grandfather (Richard Stephenson) in the in 1851 census. He is in the township of Minster Yard with Beden in York. The house name is Minster Yard, I assume it is a boarding School teaching medicine. The head "Thomas Hanley Barker" is a member of the Royal College of Surgeons etc. I know Richard went on to a medical apprenticeship in November 1851. What I am asking is, can anybody tell me any more about this school. Thanks in anticipation. -- Regards, Laurence E Stephenson http://sites.google.com/site/convictstart/ I am Researching:- Butcher..............Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Buttigieg............Tripoli, Libya Fortune..............Berwickshire, Scotland Garlick...............Liverpool, Lancashire, England Mee....................Kilflyn, Limerick, Ireland (Palatine) Payne................Washingborough, Lincolnshire, England Ritchie...............Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, Scotland Stephenson.....Pickering, Yorkshire, England Wittick...... ........(Convict) Walsall, Staffordshire, England ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm writing this from memory The RCP is not a medical school. Currently they oversee the routes to advanced qualifications in medicine. Hull York medical school was not founded until 2003. Sheffield is much older at 1828. You are right in saying that medical training in the past took the form of an apprenticeship. Medical students were known as clerks if studying medicine and dressers if studying surgery. Dressers did the dressings. Even today when taking a history from a patient doctors still talk about clerking the patient. Chris PS If anyone wants to see an old operating theatre, go to the museum at St Thomas' church opposite Guys hospital in London. PPS You do not give his age, but if the school was in Minster yard, could it have been the choir school?? This is a guess ________________________________ From: Laurence E Stephenson <laurencestephenson@gmail.com> To: Yorkshire <Yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2012, 8:07 Subject: [YORKSGEN] Richard Stephenson 1851 census I am looking for help. I have found my Great great grandfather (Richard Stephenson) in the in 1851 census. He is in the  township of Minster Yard with Beden in York. The house name is Minster Yard, I assume it is a boarding School teaching medicine. The head "Thomas Hanley Barker" is a member of the Royal College of Surgeons etc. I know Richard went on to a medical apprenticeship in November 1851. What I am asking is, can anybody tell me any more about this school. Thanks in anticipation. -- Regards, Laurence E Stephenson http://sites.google.com/site/convictstart/   I am Researching:-   Butcher..............Stroud, Gloucestershire, England   Buttigieg............Tripoli, Libya   Fortune..............Berwickshire, Scotland   Garlick...............Liverpool, Lancashire, England   Mee....................Kilflyn, Limerick, Ireland (Palatine)   Payne................Washingborough, Lincolnshire, England   Ritchie...............Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, Scotland   Stephenson.....Pickering, Yorkshire, England   Wittick...... ........(Convict) Walsall, Staffordshire, England ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello I have not wrote for a long time, I need to find out how to get a phone (home) number for a person in the Bradford area, I live in Australia, it has taken me, 30 years to find my cousin, I now have a name, but after spending 3 days on the internet, I am still at a loss on how to find a phone number! Thank you in advance I do hope, I do not upset anyone, by this request! Sue Researching, HAYES, PANKHURST, GREEN, BUCKLEY, FOXTON, MARFLEET, JEPSON, ROBINSON & HUSCROFT all around the Yorkshire area!

Hi Sue Nothing wrong with asking how to find them Have you tried http://www.192.com/ Much will depend upon the person, many don't use a landline any more and some being ex directory do not show in the directory Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15/09/2012 13:49, Sue wrote: > Hello > I have not wrote for a long time, I need to find out how to get a phone (home) number for a person in > the Bradford area, I live in Australia, it has taken me, 30 years to find my cousin, I now have a name, > but after spending 3 days on the internet, I am still at a loss on how to find a phone number! > Thank you in advance I do hope, I do not upset anyone, by this request! > > Sue

See here for a fuller report: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/sep/12/richard-skeleton-king-remains-bosworth Ruth (in Leicestershire)

Hi all My g.g.g.grandfather sister, Mary Ovington born Loftus married John SCRAFTON in Loftus in 1795 so I have an interest in SCRAFTON I found in the new database on Ancestry for Masters & Mates certificates a Thomas SCRAFTON born Whitby 2nd Jan 1809 I don't see him being a son to John & Mary as they had a son Thomas in 1801 who then died in 1822 But am interested in who this Thomas may be Another reason for posting is that he does not appear to be in any of the census years so at least he is in the archives The nearest I found on familysearch was :- Thomas Scrafton England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 02 Jan 1808 christening: 24 Jan 1808 WHITBY,​YORK,​ENGLAND parents: Mary Scrafton name: Thomas Scrafton gender: Male baptism/christening date: 24 Jan 1808 baptism/christening place: WHITBY,YORK,ENGLAND birth date: 02 Jan 1808 mother's name: Mary Scrafton indexing project (batch) number: C00774-4 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 919084 -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

I believe there is a direct descendant in the female line of Richard of York's sister who is being tested. This is what the Telegraph said 2 days ago: > The final piece in the puzzle rests with the DNA of a Canadian furniture-maker who is a descendant of the Plantagenets. > Michael Ibsen, 55, who lives in London, was identified by genealogists as a blood relative of Richard III after DNA testing established that his mother, Joy, who died in 2005, was a direct descendant of Anne of York, the king’s older sister. > Experts will compare samples taken from remains found during excavation of a Franciscan church in Leicester with a DNA sample from the king’s 17th-generation nephew to verify what they said yesterday was a “stunning” find. The process will take up to three months. > You could have asked on the Gloucester list, because he was Duke of Gloucester before he became king - and the present day Duke of Gloucester is patron of the Richard III Society! :-)) HTH Anne On 14 Sep 2012, at 17:56, Irene Marlborough wrote: > I’ve been following the extraordinary story of finding the remains of King Richard. They say that there are DNA tests in hand to prove that the bones are his – though there’s little doubt. The story is not being covered much this side of the pond and so I was wondering if there had been any information on the present day individuals who are being tested for a DNA match. Of course, I thought about this list as being the most suitable for a query about Richard of York. > > Best wishes, Irene

Usually each church has its own churchyard, and its own burial register to go with it. However, when a new parish was created out of an ancient one, people in the new parish would sometimes retain the right to be buried in the ancient parish churchyard - and sometimes new churches didn't have space around them for burials anyway. The general rule, though, is that if a church has a burial register, then burials take place at that church. For Birstall, the National Index of Parish Registers lists St Peter's as the ancient parish church, and Christ Church as being in Liversedge, about two miles away. As both appear to have their own burial registers, it looks as though burials will have taken place at both. Is it Christ Church in Liversedge that you mean? I'm also struggling to find the people you're referring to. Using Ancestry I've found only one married woman named Ellen who was buried in Birstall in 1824 (surname Watkinson, wife of Henry), plus a widow (Wood). However, the index doesn't bring up the burial of a Henry Watkinson in 1830 anywhere in West Yorkshire. Maybe there's a transcription error, or I'm making a false assumption, so please could you tell us who you're looking for and the dates you've found? Then someone should be able to give a definite answer. Arthur On 13/09/2012 21:32, Carole Edwards Caruso wrote: > I have Ellen buried from St. Peter's in Birstal, Yorkshire in 1824. Six years later, her husband died and was buried from Christ Church in Birstal. > > My question is - did the two churches share a cemetery? > > I have searched the Internet for the answer and come up empty. > > Thanks for any help. > > Carole

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I’ve been following the extraordinary story of finding the remains of King Richard. They say that there are DNA tests in hand to prove that the bones are his – though there’s little doubt. The story is not being covered much this side of the pond and so I was wondering if there had been any information on the present day individuals who are being tested for a DNA match. Of course, I thought about this list as being the most suitable for a query about Richard of York. Best wishes, Irene

From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com > To cite another example, it's pretty certain historically that > William Shakespeare left no descendants beyond his granddaughter, Elizabeth, who died in 1670 or > thereabouts. There are lots of people around today who like to think that because they > bear the same surname as the Bard they must be descended from him - but this is mere > wishful thinking on the part of the gullible! Shakespeare is a fairly common name in Warwickshire > and, almost certainly, there will be Shakespears living today who descend from other > branches of the family stemming from before William, but this only makes him a collateral > ancestor, not a direct one."> I think perhaps the funniest example of a piece of wishful thinking re ancestry I've ever seen was years ago when I was a commissioning features executive in Fleet Street and I was offered an interview with a fairly unknown actress whose surname was BULLEN. This lady claimed to be a "direct descendant" of Queen Anne Boleyn!!! I couldn't resist gently pointing out to the writer who'd submitted the story that Anne Boleyn only had one child who was Elizabeth 1, and that if this actress descended from Anne Boleyn then she must also descend from her daughter Elizabeth - which would mean Elizabeth I wasn't the virgin queen we'd all been told at school that she was! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

From: John Rouse <yorksgen07@timewarp.demon.co.uk> > In message <50489769.31859.54C794@roy.stockdill.btinternet.com>, > roy.stockdill@btinternet.com writes > >Could I stress, for the benefit of beginners, that we need to be > > very careful when we bandy around terms like "ancestor"? An ancestor means, literally, > > someone who is in the direct line of descent, i.e. in the direct blood line. Someone who > > was a member > > of the same family but not in the direct line is properly described as a COLLATERAL > ancestor, meaning someone who came from the same family but was not in the direct line. > > But because the number of people in the world is limited, we must > all share ancestors at some stage?> That is a well-known mathematical conundrum which we could debate forever, but that wasn't the point I was making. The thread arose because I queried whether Guy Fawkes left any direct blood descendants and whether a family in Germany could be descended from him. If there is no formal proof (which there isn't) that Guy Fawkes married and had a son, then there is no evidence we can accept of living descendants. I made the point that it may well be that this family in Germany descend from another line of the Fawkes family but in that case they would be known as COLLATERAL descendants of Guy Fawkes. Yes, they may well share ancestors with him in earlier generations but it doesn't alter the definition of what a collateral descendant is. To cite another example, it's pretty certain historically that William Shakespeare left no descendants beyond his granddaughter, Elizabeth, who died in 1670 or thereabouts. There are lots of people around today who like to think that because they bear the same surname as the Bard they must be descended from him - but this is mere wishful thinking on the part of the gullible! Shakespeare is a fairly common name in Warwickshire and, almost certainly, there will be Shakespears living today who descend from other branches of the family stemming from before William, but this only makes him a collateral ancestor, not a direct one. There is a subtle but vital difference. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Maureen, I can't help with your query, however I have TINDLE heritage as a descendant of William born 1772 in Broomfleet. His father was also William and born in North Newbold in 1745. Murray Reid NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Ellen" <maureen.ellen@rocketmail.com> To: "Yorksgen" <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:42 AM Subject: [YORKSGEN] Beverley Archives, look up needed please. If anyone is going to visit The Treasure House at Beverley I would be very grateful for a look up. On 28th Aug. 1791 a child of John and Sarah TINDLE was buried at St Nicholas Church, North Newbald.. If anyone could spare the time to look for the christian name of this child it would be much appreciated. Many thanks, Maureen ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message