Many thanks Helen, for your quick response. That looks very helpful. Regards, Janice ________________________________ From: Helen Vaillancourt <lucy@efni.com> To: 'JANICE WOOD' <janwood50@btinternet.com>; 'YorksgenYorksgen' <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 12:14 Subject: RE: [YORKSGEN] Yorkshire to Ontario Hello Janice If you have your friend contact the group below,they should be able to help her find her Oxford County links. helen http://www.ogs.on.ca/oxford/Researchpg.html -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JANICE WOOD Sent: October-04-12 6:28 AM To: YorksgenYorksgen Subject: [YORKSGEN] Yorkshire to Ontario Hello all, A friend is looking for connections who went from Yorkshire to Canada in 1914. Is there anyone on the list who is able to research a family in Oxford, Ontario please? Thank you Janice Wood ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was in Ontario last June and visited a number of cemeteries in the area. I also learned that some of these have a transcription of the graves freely available on the web. These transcriptions don't just list the people but also other family details like a list of their children and names of parents and when the couple married. It does not always happen. You just need to know the cemetery and google the name. The best cemetery list I came across was that of Old Williamsburg which was one I visited Victor Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Helen Vaillancourt" <lucy@efni.com> Sender: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 08:47:04 To: 'JANICE WOOD'<janwood50@btinternet.com>; 'YorksgenYorksgen'<YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] more Yorkshire to Ontario It’s always difficult searching after the last 1911 census but the public death records go up to 1939 , many of the cemetery records are publicly available and public marriage records go up to 1929 so depending on the age of the person who emigrated in 1914 ,I might be able to catch him/her on sone of the records. Feel free to give my e-mail to your friend and I will do some preliminary searching. Helen lucy@efni.com From: JANICE WOOD [mailto:janwood50@btinternet.com] Sent: October-04-12 8:26 AM To: Helen Vaillancourt; 'YorksgenYorksgen' Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Yorkshire to Ontario Many thanks Helen, for your quick response. That looks very helpful. Regards, Janice _____ From: Helen Vaillancourt <lucy@efni.com> To: 'JANICE WOOD' <janwood50@btinternet.com>; 'YorksgenYorksgen' <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 12:14 Subject: RE: [YORKSGEN] Yorkshire to Ontario Hello Janice If you have your friend contact the group below,they should be able to help her find her Oxford County links. helen http://www.ogs.on.ca/oxford/Researchpg.html -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JANICE WOOD Sent: October-04-12 6:28 AM To: YorksgenYorksgen Subject: [YORKSGEN] Yorkshire to Ontario Hello all, A friend is looking for connections who went from Yorkshire to Canada in 1914. Is there anyone on the list who is able to research a family in Oxford, Ontario please? Thank you Janice Wood ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, A friend is looking for connections who went from Yorkshire to Canada in 1914. Is there anyone on the list who is able to research a family in Oxford, Ontario please? Thank you Janice Wood

If anyone as connections to Benjamin HINDLE who marries Grace CHADWICK I would like to discuss the subject further. It is being argued that Benjamin's father was Benjamin and whilst I cannot discount this I still cant add him either. Benjamin junior is consistent on all census he appears as being born between 1813 and 1817 yet the baptism of the above was in 1808. Also does anyone know if Derke Hindle is still about or have a contact email address they could privately send me Thx Rob

Hi Dawn Gitlin, That website really does sound hopeful. I shall give it a try. Thanks for all the other info. Anne Graham ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dawn Gitlin <dawn.gitlin@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Robert Harland To: Anne Graham <borolassgraham@sky.com> Hello Anne, There is a guy called Bob Sanders who has a website at www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/WHITIND.html It isn't the easiest site to navigate. I have looked at it a few times as my ancestors were Master Mariners in Scarborough. If you scroll down and look at "An Index to Master Mariners born at Whitby ... (etc)" there are a number of Harlands including a Robert Harland and it gives his Master Mariner certificate details. Also, somewhere on the website, I found: 25 September 1851 - Lost with all hands the Brig "Fame" George Harland, Master Mariner, age 33, son of John and Elizabeth Benjamin Harland, age 19, also son of John and Elizabeth 1862 (?) Lost with all hands the Brig "Hero" James Harland, Master Mariner, son of John and Elizabeth. -----Original Message----- From: Anne Graham Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:29 PM To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Robert Harland Hello, Hoping someone can give any information on Robert Harland of Whitby who died in the Whitby Lifeboat Disaster of 1861. We believe he belongs in our Family Tree and would like any information about him or his family - he died leaving a wife & 6 children. We have a number of Harlands in our Tree, but up to now cannot find a connection to Robert. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance. Anne Graham ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It’s always difficult searching after the last 1911 census but the public death records go up to 1939 , many of the cemetery records are publicly available and public marriage records go up to 1929 so depending on the age of the person who emigrated in 1914 ,I might be able to catch him/her on sone of the records. Feel free to give my e-mail to your friend and I will do some preliminary searching. Helen lucy@efni.com From: JANICE WOOD [mailto:janwood50@btinternet.com] Sent: October-04-12 8:26 AM To: Helen Vaillancourt; 'YorksgenYorksgen' Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Yorkshire to Ontario Many thanks Helen, for your quick response. That looks very helpful. Regards, Janice _____ From: Helen Vaillancourt <lucy@efni.com> To: 'JANICE WOOD' <janwood50@btinternet.com>; 'YorksgenYorksgen' <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 12:14 Subject: RE: [YORKSGEN] Yorkshire to Ontario Hello Janice If you have your friend contact the group below,they should be able to help her find her Oxford County links. helen http://www.ogs.on.ca/oxford/Researchpg.html -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JANICE WOOD Sent: October-04-12 6:28 AM To: YorksgenYorksgen Subject: [YORKSGEN] Yorkshire to Ontario Hello all, A friend is looking for connections who went from Yorkshire to Canada in 1914. Is there anyone on the list who is able to research a family in Oxford, Ontario please? Thank you Janice Wood ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Janice If you have your friend contact the group below,they should be able to help her find her Oxford County links. helen http://www.ogs.on.ca/oxford/Researchpg.html -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JANICE WOOD Sent: October-04-12 6:28 AM To: YorksgenYorksgen Subject: [YORKSGEN] Yorkshire to Ontario Hello all, A friend is looking for connections who went from Yorkshire to Canada in 1914. Is there anyone on the list who is able to research a family in Oxford, Ontario please? Thank you Janice Wood ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to everyone who came up with various Robert Harlands of Whitby. I shall look into everything and hopefully will find our Robert. Thanks again Anne

Hi all Another large batch of books added to Ancestry Amongst them are :- The Sheffield Local Register 1830-1908 Testamenta Eboracensia A Selection of Wills from the Registry at York, Part 2 Batley, from Village to Town Yorks - Ossett Burgess Roll 1905-1906 & 1913-1914 (W.Yorks.) Schedule of the Title Deeds of the Sneaton Estate in North Riding 1748-1822 The Visit of Queen Victoria to Sheffield - May 21st 1897 These appear to be the Archive CD Books titles , they are browsable but not as yet searchable As always any additions are always welcome To access, either select View all new records from the home page or select the Card Catalogue from the search menu and search for additions within this month (or September for the previous batch) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Thanks to Christine who pointed out that my earlier message for a look up at the archives in Beverley may cause some confusion as there are 2 hamlets called Lund. I am interested in the parish records of LUND near BEVERLEY and the records are housed at the Treasure House in Beverley. If anyone could do a look up there for me, please contact me at lucy@efni.com Helen Vaillancourt, Ontario Canada

Robert Harland may have married Esther Walker in the September quarter 1837 in Whitby S1837 Whitby 24 403. That marriage cert would give the name of his father. Robert & Esther were in Henrietta Street in the 1841 census. His occupation was mariner. On Familysearch there are two candidates for his christening name: Robert Harland gender: Male baptism/christening date: 10 Oct 1819 baptism/christening place: Whitby, York, England father's name: Ralph Harland mother's name: Elizabeth indexing project (batch) number: I03338-2 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 919085 reference number: 285 name: Robert Harland gender: Male baptism/christening date: 06 Mar 1819 baptism/christening place: Whitby, York, England father's name: Matthew Harland mother's name: Elizabeth indexing project (batch) number: I03338-2 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 919085 reference number: 259 It also has a record of his burial but no details name:Robert Harlandgender:Maleburial date:15 Feb 1861burial place:Whitby, York, (batch) number:I03302-9system origin:England-EASysource film number:919087reference number:2169 On 2 Oct 2012, at 22:29, Anne Graham wrote: > Hello, Hoping someone can give any information on Robert Harland of > Whitby who died in the Whitby Lifeboat Disaster of 1861. We believe > he belongs in our Family Tree and would like any information about him > or his family - he died leaving a wife & 6 children. We have a > number of Harlands in our Tree, but up to now cannot find a connection > to Robert. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance. > > Anne Graham > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this him? In 1851 Name: Robert Harland Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Esther Harland Gender: M (Male) Where born: Pontefract, Yorkshire, England [Yorkshire Whitby] Civil parish: Whitby Town: Whitby County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Henrietta Street Occupation: Fisherman Registration district: Whitby Sub-registration district: Egton ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 15 Piece: 2374 Folio: 225 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Robert Harland 32 Esther Harland 34 Elizabeth Harland 10 Mary Harland 2 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2374; Folio: 225; Page: 3; GSU roll: 87660-87662. By 1861 Esther was a widow Name: Esther Harland Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Whitby, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Whitby Town: Whitby County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Henrietta Street Condition as to marriage: Widow Registration district: Whitby Sub-registration district: Whitby ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 26 Piece: 3647 Folio: 6 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Esther Harland 37 Alice Harland 13 Mary Harland 9 Jane Harland 8 Esther Harland 4 Hanh Harland 2 Robt Harland 18 Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 3647; Folio: 6; Page: 5; You could trace him back through the 1841 census and christenings to find his parents & a possible connection Anne On 2 Oct 2012, at 22:29, Anne Graham wrote: > Hello, Hoping someone can give any information on Robert Harland of > Whitby who died in the Whitby Lifeboat Disaster of 1861. We believe > he belongs in our Family Tree and would like any information about him > or his family - he died leaving a wife & 6 children. We have a > number of Harlands in our Tree, but up to now cannot find a connection > to Robert. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance. > > Anne Graham

Hello, Hoping someone can give any information on Robert Harland of Whitby who died in the Whitby Lifeboat Disaster of 1861. We believe he belongs in our Family Tree and would like any information about him or his family - he died leaving a wife & 6 children. We have a number of Harlands in our Tree, but up to now cannot find a connection to Robert. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance. Anne Graham

Put your money on self interest, why shouldn't people play the game with religion after all, those who knew better than ordinary folk had been flip flopping around with religion for centuries (when it suited them) and forcing the peasantry to do so too. So why not the Hoi Polio ? Good on them. Pete Broadley Yorkie down under -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of yorksgen-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 02 October 2012 12:10 To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 439 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Why change faith (roy.stockdill@btinternet.com) 2. Re: Why change faith (Martin Briscoe) 3. Re: Why change faith (Patsy Crotty) 4. Re: Why change faith (Colin B. Withers) 5. Re: Why change faith (Robert Burns) 6. Re: Why change faith (Victor Markham) 7. Will for Peter Plumpton (d. 1661), Isle of Axholme? (Mark E. Dixon) 8. Hannah Sarah Woodhead (mmarion@rogers.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:43:15 +0100 From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith To: Robert Burns <famh1story@aim.com>, "yorksgen@rootsweb.com" <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <506981D3.22273.676DA2@roy.stockdill.btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 From: Mollie <molliemln@yahoo.co.uk> > The likely reason would be that the family were in need of Parish > relief.? This was administered by the C of E.? > That is certainly one reason. However, if you have ever heard a lecture or read articles by Mike Gandy, one of the leading UK experts on Nonconformism, he would tell you that people were changing faiths and "dropping in and out" of various denominations all the time. It often wasn't a hard and fast and unchangeable ruling. Consider, for instance, the fact that a married couple might have different faiths! Perhaps the husband was CoE and the wife Methodist. Might they not have come to an agreement to have some of the children baptised into one church and others in another? I can think of other reasons. If they weren't particularly devout or steadfast in their religion, they might have found it convenient to have children baptised in whichever church or chapel was the nearest when they moved home. We shouldn't always look for complicated reasons when the truth is actually much simpler! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:56:01 +0100 From: "Martin Briscoe" <martin@mbriscoe.me.uk> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith To: <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <004b01cd9fcb$ba9e33c0$2fda9b40$@me.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Could it also sometimes be advantageous to have the same denomination as a potential employer? Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 22:09:45 +1000 From: "Patsy Crotty" <pcrotty@vtown.com.au> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith To: <martin@mbriscoe.me.uk>, <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <005e01cd9fcd$a562cc80$f0286580$@vtown.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Vicar of Bray certainly thought so!! (Google him for the song.) Patsy Crotty -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Martin Briscoe Sent: Monday, 1 October 2012 9:56 PM To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith Could it also sometimes be advantageous to have the same denomination as a potential employer? Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:18:47 +0200 From: "Colin B. Withers" <Colin.Withers@eumetsat.int> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith To: "'roy.stockdill@btinternet.com'" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com>, "Robert Burns" <famh1story@aim.com>, "yorksgen@rootsweb.com" <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <B293F9025AB9DF4BBD3BC3403F25DA45016551F90CD0@EXW10.eum.root.eumetsat.int> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Roy is right. My family were all C of E, but when we moved house I was sent to the local Methodist Sunday School, just because it was near and convenient. Colin -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 1:43 PM To: Robert Burns; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith From: Mollie <molliemln@yahoo.co.uk> > The likely reason would be that the family were in need of Parish > relief.? This was administered by the C of E.? > That is certainly one reason. However, if you have ever heard a lecture or read articles by Mike Gandy, one of the leading UK experts on Nonconformism, he would tell you that people were changing faiths and "dropping in and out" of various denominations all the time. It often wasn't a hard and fast and unchangeable ruling. Consider, for instance, the fact that a married couple might have different faiths! Perhaps the husband was CoE and the wife Methodist. Might they not have come to an agreement to have some of the children baptised into one church and others in another? I can think of other reasons. If they weren't particularly devout or steadfast in their religion, they might have found it convenient to have children baptised in whichever church or chapel was the nearest when they moved home. We shouldn't always look for complicated reasons when the truth is actually much simpler! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 09:58:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Burns <famh1story@aim.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith To: Colin.Withers@eumetsat.int, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com, yorksgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CF6DF3F851B2CD-1F2C-6985A@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Colin, As I said to Roy privately I would normally agree however in this case the established church was much nearer than the Baptist church the first 4 were registered with. Its not important I was just trying to put ideas into my head Rob -----Original Message----- From: Colin B. Withers <Colin.Withers@eumetsat.int> To: 'roy.stockdill@btinternet.com' <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com>; Robert Burns <famh1story@aim.com>; yorksgen <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Oct 1, 2012 2:18 pm Subject: RE: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith Roy is right. My family were all C of E, but when we moved house I was sent to the local Methodist Sunday School, just because it was near and convenient. Colin -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 1:43 PM To: Robert Burns; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith From: Mollie <molliemln@yahoo.co.uk> > The likely reason would be that the family were in need of Parish > relief. This was administered by the C of E. > That is certainly one reason. However, if you have ever heard a lecture or read articles by Mike Gandy, one of the leading UK experts on Nonconformism, he would tell you that people were changing faiths and "dropping in and out" of various denominations all the time. It often wasn't a hard and fast and unchangeable ruling. Consider, for instance, the fact that a married couple might have different faiths! Perhaps the husband was CoE and the wife Methodist. Might they not have come to an agreement to have some of the children baptised into one church and others in another? I can think of other reasons. If they weren't particularly devout or steadfast in their religion, they might have found it convenient to have children baptised in whichever church or chapel was the nearest when they moved home. We shouldn't always look for complicated reasons when the truth is actually much simpler! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:13:59 +0100 From: Victor Markham <victor@markham.me.uk> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith Cc: "yorksgen@rootsweb.com" <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5069A527.8030407@markham.me.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I was in Ottawa last June meeting my cousins for the first time. The cousin drove me round the area and we passed a Roman Catholic school. She told me her grand children attend that school even though are not Catholics. They were able to attend because they were good at French. All the areas of Canada, with two exceptions they use dual French and English every where. The two exceptions are Quebec which will not allow English signs. But go into a hotel or restaurant they understood my English. The other exception is Nova Scotia which sticks to English only. Some of the town signs do have an alternative translations...in Gaelic! Victor On 01/10/2012 2:18 PM, Colin B. Withers wrote: > Roy is right. > > My family were all C of E, but when we moved house I was sent to the local Methodist Sunday School, just because it was near and convenient. > > Colin > > -----Original Message----- > From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 1:43 PM > To: Robert Burns; yorksgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith > > From: Mollie <molliemln@yahoo.co.uk> > >> The likely reason would be that the family were in need of Parish >> relief. This was administered by the C of E. > > That is certainly one reason. However, if you have ever heard a lecture or read articles by > Mike Gandy, one of the leading UK experts on Nonconformism, he would tell you that people > were changing faiths and "dropping in and out" of various denominations all the time. It often > wasn't a hard and fast and unchangeable ruling. > > Consider, for instance, the fact that a married couple might have different faiths! Perhaps the > husband was CoE and the wife Methodist. Might they not have come to an agreement to > have some of the children baptised into one church and others in another? > > I can think of other reasons. If they weren't particularly devout or steadfast in their religion, > they might have found it convenient to have children baptised in whichever church or chapel > was the nearest when they moved home. We shouldn't always look for complicated reasons > when the truth is actually much simpler! > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 18:59:32 -0400 From: "Mark E. Dixon" <dixon_mark@verizon.net> Subject: [YORKSGEN] Will for Peter Plumpton (d. 1661), Isle of Axholme? To: <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <B045F5DF25464E52810524E240BCF0F1@MarkPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone have access to wills for Yorkshire, Isle of Axholme, who might do a lookup? I'm looking for a will for Peter Plumpton (a son of William Plumpton, d. 13 Jan. 1601/02, bur. Spofforth) who died unmarried in 1661. He is reputed to have been a brother to early New England immigrant John Plympton, who married Jane Dummin/Damand and was killed by Indians in 1677. Thanks! Mark E. Dixon Wayne, Pa. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 19:09:51 -0700 (PDT) From: mmarion@rogers.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Hannah Sarah Woodhead To: "YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com" <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1349143791.55703.YahooMailNeo@web162101.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hannah Sarah Woodhead daughter of Peter and Susannah Woodhead of Shelf, Yorkshire born 1822.? She is present with family in the 1841 and 1851 England Census.? She is not present in 1861. She dies on the 19th of July 1868 at Workington, Cumberland.? She dies of necrosis of bones of foot, for four years.? Thos S. Douglas in attendance, Elizabeth Street Workington. She had a probate and lists the same Doctor and Reverend James Rennie in that document, no family. So where is she in 1861? How did a girl born in 1822 in Shelf, single, get to the other side of England in Cumberland and dies alone? And have anything to put in probate? I wonder if she went to Cockermouth for her health? Or was she a housekeeper, nannie, teacher? Any help or advice would be appreciated.? Margaret Marion, Oshawa, Ontario, Canada ------------------------------ To contact the YORKSGEN list administrator, send an email to YORKSGEN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the YORKSGEN mailing list, send an email to YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 439 ****************************************

Does anyone live near the register house at Beverley, East Yorkshire and could do a look up for me in the Lund parish register? If so, contact me off list Helen Vaillancourt In Canada lucy@efni.com

My Italian step father in law was Methodist which I told him surprised me. He said that when his ancestors got to New York that the Catholic priest spoke Polish but that the Methodist minister spoke Italian. So, there you go. There are many reasons to change church - all individual!!! Interesting to speculate but difficult to ascertain. Kathryne Natale momnat@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Victor Markham <victor@markham.me.uk> Cc: yorksgen <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Oct 1, 2012 10:31 am Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith I was in Ottawa last June meeting my cousins for the first time. The cousin drove me round the area and we passed a Roman Catholic chool. She told me her grand children attend that school even though re not Catholics. They were able to attend because they were good at rench. All the areas of Canada, with two exceptions they use dual French and nglish every where. The two exceptions are Quebec which will not allow English signs. But go nto a hotel or restaurant they understood my English. The other xception is Nova Scotia which sticks to English only. Some of the town igns do have an alternative translations...in Gaelic! Victor On 01/10/2012 2:18 PM, Colin B. Withers wrote: Roy is right. My family were all C of E, but when we moved house I was sent to the local ethodist Sunday School, just because it was near and convenient. Colin -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On ehalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 1:43 PM To: Robert Burns; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith From: Mollie <molliemln@yahoo.co.uk> > The likely reason would be that the family were in need of Parish > relief. This was administered by the C of E. > That is certainly one reason. However, if you have ever heard a lecture or ead articles by Mike Gandy, one of the leading UK experts on Nonconformism, he would tell you hat people were changing faiths and "dropping in and out" of various denominations all he time. It often wasn't a hard and fast and unchangeable ruling. Consider, for instance, the fact that a married couple might have different aiths! Perhaps the husband was CoE and the wife Methodist. Might they not have come to an greement to have some of the children baptised into one church and others in another? I can think of other reasons. If they weren't particularly devout or steadfast n their religion, they might have found it convenient to have children baptised in whichever hurch or chapel was the nearest when they moved home. We shouldn't always look for complicated easons when the truth is actually much simpler! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ..... ncestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; ww.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; ww.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hi Margaret This probably explains both points raised 1861 England Census about Hannah Woodhead Name: Hannah Woodhead Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Stalp, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Dinsdale County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Darlington Sub-registration district: Darlington ED, institution, or vessel: 24c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 12 Piece: 3683 Folio: 32 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Hannah Woodhead 39 teacher of 30 pupils born Shelf Yorkshire RG 9; Piece: 3683; Folio: 32; Page: 18; GSU roll: 543171. I have entered a correction to birthplace Shelf which will appear in a couple of weeks in the searchable index Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/10/2012 03:09, mmarion@rogers.com wrote: > Hannah Sarah Woodhead daughter of Peter and Susannah Woodhead of Shelf, Yorkshire born 1822. She is present with family in the 1841 and 1851 England Census. She is not present in 1861. > She dies on the 19th of July 1868 at Workington, Cumberland. She dies of necrosis of bones of foot, for four years. Thos S. Douglas in attendance, Elizabeth Street Workington. > She had a probate and lists the same Doctor and Reverend James Rennie in that document, no family. > So where is she in 1861? > How did a girl born in 1822 in Shelf, single, get to the other side of England in Cumberland and dies alone? And have anything to put in probate? > > I wonder if she went to Cockermouth for her health? Or was she a housekeeper, nannie, teacher? > > Any help or advice would be appreciated. > > Margaret Marion, Oshawa, Ontario, Canada

The Vicar of Bray certainly thought so!! (Google him for the song.) Patsy Crotty -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Martin Briscoe Sent: Monday, 1 October 2012 9:56 PM To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Why change faith Could it also sometimes be advantageous to have the same denomination as a potential employer? Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hannah Sarah Woodhead daughter of Peter and Susannah Woodhead of Shelf, Yorkshire born 1822.  She is present with family in the 1841 and 1851 England Census.  She is not present in 1861. She dies on the 19th of July 1868 at Workington, Cumberland.  She dies of necrosis of bones of foot, for four years.  Thos S. Douglas in attendance, Elizabeth Street Workington. She had a probate and lists the same Doctor and Reverend James Rennie in that document, no family. So where is she in 1861? How did a girl born in 1822 in Shelf, single, get to the other side of England in Cumberland and dies alone? And have anything to put in probate? I wonder if she went to Cockermouth for her health? Or was she a housekeeper, nannie, teacher? Any help or advice would be appreciated.  Margaret Marion, Oshawa, Ontario, Canada

Does anyone have access to wills for Yorkshire, Isle of Axholme, who might do a lookup? I'm looking for a will for Peter Plumpton (a son of William Plumpton, d. 13 Jan. 1601/02, bur. Spofforth) who died unmarried in 1661. He is reputed to have been a brother to early New England immigrant John Plympton, who married Jane Dummin/Damand and was killed by Indians in 1677. Thanks! Mark E. Dixon Wayne, Pa.