Hi all This is an interesting case and rings bells re one I have been working on. A researcher for the Fromelles association, my task is looking for living relatives who could be donors of DNA to identify the soldier (possibly one of those exhumed from a mass grave in France after 2008) One of the soldiers Stanley Byfield King was born a SMITH, his mother Miss Smith, then unmarried. But at some time he changed his name to KING. he came from Stanley a tiny little town on the north coast of Tasmania Because it seemed we would never find a male dna match for him, I started to look more closely at this name change and possible father. by coincidence his mother's twin sister married a King. I thought AHA! and followed his line back which went to a convict named KING but AKA SMITH. Although at the time, the only King in the approx age group in the town was a Charles King who never married. Having been looking in various places, a Tasmanian guy from the King family contacted me. He had been to the Fromelles Ceremony for his great uncle Mervyn King who also died at Fromelles and saw Stanley's name on the memorial list and decided to do a bit of research on him. Their branch of the King family came from Byfield in Northants, with a grandmother Byfield, and settled in Stanley, Tas, not related to the convict. So this additional information showed that the KING side of the family accepted Stanley as one of theirs, and was the son of the unmarried Charles. No docs to support. I dont know at what stage his name was changed - probably the whole town probably knew at the time. So perhaps the Kettlewells know all about it. Researching their tree may be part of the answer, perhaps there will be people who know the answer. Our result is we have a donor of DNA for Stanley and he has a cousin in the same cemetery and his KING and SMITH family remember him. This is the nearest we will get. If anyone is interested in helping with researching soldiers buried at Fromelles we are in need of researchers in the UK to help us with parts of our research, particularly the stage after 1900. We are now down to looking at Aussie soldiers all born in UK who migrated on their own ( the earlry 1900s versions of back packers). They are our biggest brick walls. Contact me off line for more information. kind regards Marg O'Leary Fromelles Association. -----Original Message----- From: MICHAEL KETTLEWELL via Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:55 AM To: Lin ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Tracing birth family for adopted children - changes Thanks for the link Lin, that sounds as though it may be very useful to me. I've been trying to find out if my late father was legally adopted, or just chose to change his name, for a number of years now, without success. Until now(well, November 2014), I've not had the legal right to enquire into it. He was born Cyril Henry Plummer in 1926, out of wedlock and without a named father on his birth certificate. Two years later his next sibling, John Raymond was also born out of wedlock, and he too bore my grandmother's name, Plummer, and again, no father's name on his birth certificate. At some point between his birth and then marriage in 1946, his name changed to Kettlewell and he gave a Thomas Kettlewell as his father on his wedding certificate - my gran did marry a Thomas Kettlewell, at the end 1928. But whether or not he was adopted or maybe just had his named changed, so that he 'fitted in' easier at school, and in the then, small village of Copmanthorpe, I've been unable to prove. Incidentally, his brother John Raymond kept the surname Plummer from birth to death, which may indicate that my father wasn't adopted and may have just changed his name for his own convenience. If my father didn't change his name by a common Deed Poll(I've already checked if it was an Enrolled Deed Poll, and it wasn't), does anyone here know the legitimacy of my birth name and that of my siblings, as Kettlewells, and also that of our offspring? I'm not expecting a legal answer, but I'm hoping that there may be someone on here that has been brought up in similar circumstances. Mike Researching: Casper(Prussia pre 1820); Plummer(Wass/Ampleforth pre 1803): Hartas/Stockton(Spaunton/Farndale pre 1720s); Beswick(North Burton/Burton Fleming pre 1770); Marwood(Brompton by Northallerton pre 1630); Christelow(Middleton St. George pre 1773); Chew(Burton Fleming pre 1704); Blenkin/Blencan(Settrington pre1550); Coulby(Settrington pre 1580); Willeson(Settrington pre 1560s); Blackwell(Settrington pre 1592). ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 15/10/2014 - 22:21 (GMTDT) To : [email protected] Subject : [YORKSGEN] Tracing birth family for adopted children - changes Taken from gov.uk website "Children, grandchildren and other relatives of adopted adults can now trace back through their ancestors’ lives - helping them to unearth their family history, discover more about their medical background and reach out to long-lost relatives under new rules introduced today. Previously, only the person adopted and their birth relatives were able to use specialised adoption agencies to help shed light on their family history and make contact with their biological family members. The new rules will extend this right to all relatives of adopted adults, from children and grandchildren to partners and adoptive relatives, allowing greater openness in adoption while ensuring adopted people have the right to a private, family life. For example, those who have lost a parent to cancer or a heart problem will be able to discover whether their grandparents or other birth relatives suffered from the same condition, giving them the chance to seek advice and support". Lin https://www.gov.uk/government/news/relatives-of-adopted-adults-now-able-to-trace-family-tree Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the link Lin, that sounds as though it may be very useful to me. I've been trying to find out if my late father was legally adopted, or just chose to change his name, for a number of years now, without success. Until now(well, November 2014), I've not had the legal right to enquire into it. He was born Cyril Henry Plummer in 1926, out of wedlock and without a named father on his birth certificate. Two years later his next sibling, John Raymond was also born out of wedlock, and he too bore my grandmother's name, Plummer, and again, no father's name on his birth certificate. At some point between his birth and then marriage in 1946, his name changed to Kettlewell and he gave a Thomas Kettlewell as his father on his wedding certificate - my gran did marry a Thomas Kettlewell, at the end 1928. But whether or not he was adopted or maybe just had his named changed, so that he 'fitted in' easier at school, and in the then, small village of Copmanthorpe, I've been unable to prove. Incidentally, his brother John Raymond kept the surname Plummer f! rom birth to death, which may indicate that my father wasn't adopted and may have just changed his name for his own convenience. If my father didn't change his name by a common Deed Poll(I've already checked if it was an Enrolled Deed Poll, and it wasn't), does anyone here know the legitimacy of my birth name and that of my siblings, as Kettlewells, and also that of our offspring? I'm not expecting a legal answer, but I'm hoping that there may be someone on here that has been brought up in similar circumstances. Mike Researching: Casper(Prussia pre 1820); Plummer(Wass/Ampleforth pre 1803): Hartas/Stockton(Spaunton/Farndale pre 1720s); Beswick(North Burton/Burton Fleming pre 1770); Marwood(Brompton by Northallerton pre 1630); Christelow(Middleton St. George pre 1773); Chew(Burton Fleming pre 1704); Blenkin/Blencan(Settrington pre1550); Coulby(Settrington pre 1580); Willeson(Settrington pre 1560s); Blackwell(Settrington pre 1592). ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 15/10/2014 - 22:21 (GMTDT) To : [email protected] Subject : [YORKSGEN] Tracing birth family for adopted children - changes Taken from gov.uk website "Children, grandchildren and other relatives of adopted adults can now trace back through their ancestors’ lives - helping them to unearth their family history, discover more about their medical background and reach out to long-lost relatives under new rules introduced today. Previously, only the person adopted and their birth relatives were able to use specialised adoption agencies to help shed light on their family history and make contact with their biological family members. The new rules will extend this right to all relatives of adopted adults, from children and grandchildren to partners and adoptive relatives, allowing greater openness in adoption while ensuring adopted people have the right to a private, family life. For example, those who have lost a parent to cancer or a heart problem will be able to discover whether their grandparents or other birth relatives suffered from the same condition, giving them the chance to seek advice and support". Lin https://www.gov.uk/government/news/relatives-of-adopted-adults-now-able-to-trace-family-tree Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Taken from gov.uk website "Children, grandchildren and other relatives of adopted adults can now trace back through their ancestors’ lives - helping them to unearth their family history, discover more about their medical background and reach out to long-lost relatives under new rules introduced today. Previously, only the person adopted and their birth relatives were able to use specialised adoption agencies to help shed light on their family history and make contact with their biological family members. The new rules will extend this right to all relatives of adopted adults, from children and grandchildren to partners and adoptive relatives, allowing greater openness in adoption while ensuring adopted people have the right to a private, family life. For example, those who have lost a parent to cancer or a heart problem will be able to discover whether their grandparents or other birth relatives suffered from the same condition, giving them the chance to seek advice and support". Lin https://www.gov.uk/government/news/relatives-of-adopted-adults-now-able-to-trace-family-tree

List of all who served, includes addresses, units, if died. Thanks to Bradford Central Library: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bradfordww1/sets/ Best wishes Jackie Mrs Jacqueline G Depelle Family History Tutor, Speaker and Fair Organiser www.yourfairladies.co.uk www.yorksgroup.org.uk Chairman, Yorkshire Group of FHSs

James P., Have you tried the BC Archives files http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/BasicSearchResult ??? There are 250 HIRST and 182 WHITING and 56 BAGNALL listings. Possibilities may exist. HTH. Ted Comox, BC On 2014-10-13 12:01 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Change of email address (Pam Smith) > 2. Yorksgen Admin (Sara McGinlay) > 3. HIRST, WHITING, CHAPMAN (James P.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 14:20:33 -0400 > From: "James P." <[email protected]> > Subject: [YORKSGEN] HIRST, WHITING, CHAPMAN > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > James WHITING, b. ca 1771, Yorkshire, was the gtgtgrfthr. of my > sister-in-law, Winnifred Lorraine SMITH, born 1916 , Frankville, Ontario, > Canada. > > James' second wife was Martha Ann HIRST, b. ca 1819. A daughter, Martha J. > WHITING, married Joseph CHAPMAN. > Martha and Joseph CHAPMAN emigrated to Ontario Canada where they had a son, > Joseph Jr. > > **Joseph Jr. married, wife's name unknown to me, and had a daughter Estelle. > > Their daughter, Estelle CHAPMAN, b. 1882, was the mother of my sister-in-law > who is now 98 years of age, reasonably active and residing in a Retirement > Lodge near Manotick, Ontario, s/w of Ottawa. . > > ** All this information, with the exception of Joseph Chapman Jr and unknown > wife, was given to me by my sister-in-law when she was 95 years of age. > She provided me with a list of 71 relatives. > Quite a memory. > I came across Joseph Chapman Jr. by surprise when talking to a SMITH > relative. I had puzzled about the improbable time gap between Joseph Sr. and > Estelle Chapman. > > My question (s )..Does anyone researching HIRST have a connection to Martha > Ann HIRST and husband James WHITING ? > > James Pearce, > Peteborough, Ontario, Canada. > > Searching Pearce, Bagnall, deBagnall, deBagenhal > > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

James WHITING, b. ca 1771, Yorkshire, was the gtgtgrfthr. of my sister-in-law, Winnifred Lorraine SMITH, born 1916 , Frankville, Ontario, Canada. James' second wife was Martha Ann HIRST, b. ca 1819. A daughter, Martha J. WHITING, married Joseph CHAPMAN. Martha and Joseph CHAPMAN emigrated to Ontario Canada where they had a son, Joseph Jr. **Joseph Jr. married, wife's name unknown to me, and had a daughter Estelle. Their daughter, Estelle CHAPMAN, b. 1882, was the mother of my sister-in-law who is now 98 years of age, reasonably active and residing in a Retirement Lodge near Manotick, Ontario, s/w of Ottawa. . ** All this information, with the exception of Joseph Chapman Jr and unknown wife, was given to me by my sister-in-law when she was 95 years of age. She provided me with a list of 71 relatives. Quite a memory. I came across Joseph Chapman Jr. by surprise when talking to a SMITH relative. I had puzzled about the improbable time gap between Joseph Sr. and Estelle Chapman. My question (s )..Does anyone researching HIRST have a connection to Martha Ann HIRST and husband James WHITING ? James Pearce, Peteborough, Ontario, Canada. Searching Pearce, Bagnall, deBagnall, deBagenhal

Hello listers, I would like to offer a huge thank you to Dave Jassie who has kindly offered to relieve me of the role of Yorksgen Administrator. Many of you will be aware that Dave already provides the Admin duties to a number of genealogy mailing lists. Having far more experience than myself, he is far better suited to be the Administrator of Yorksgen. Dave Jassie, with immediate effect, will become our new Administrator - a deed which has allowed me to win hands down the Award for "Shortest ever reign of a Yorksgen Administrator' Thank you, Sara ex Yorksgen Administrator . ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 4031/7872 - Release Date: 10/12/14

Please could you change my email address. I am now using [email protected],co,uk for all genealogy related correspondence. Many thanks. Pam Smith Sent from my iPad

I am endeavouring to trace the parents of Mary Ann Hirst who was born Eckington about 1804 and is described as a Pauper sempstress on the census of 1851 Kimberworth she was the mother in law to Richard Guest and mother to Mary Ann Guest and mother to George Hirdt,Maria Hirst and Samuel Hirst who in 1851 was aged 8 stuart

Stuart, In 1841 living in Rotherham are George Hirst, 36, Mary, 37, Sarah, 15, John, 12, Mary Ann, 9, George, 5, and Maria, 2. This appears to be your family and if it is it's possible George and Mary Ann married about 1823-1825. If you could find their marriage you would have Mary Ann's maiden name. Daughter Sarah was born in Kimberworth, Rotherham so it's likely the marriage took place nearby. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "STUART GUEST via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:30 AM Subject: [YORKSGEN] Mary Hirst born 1804 Eckington Derbyshire Married to Richard Guest rotherham I am endeavouring to trace the parents of Mary Ann Hirst who was born Eckington about 1804 and is described as a Pauper sempstress on the census of 1851 Kimberworth she was the mother in law to Richard Guest and mother to Mary Ann Guest and mother to George Hirdt,Maria Hirst and Samuel Hirst who in 1851 was aged 8 stuart .....

Lin Another thought along the lines of William possibly still being alive- did the marriage certificates just state his name or did they state he was deceased? I am wondering if William and Mary separated or he deserted her - I have family units where even in fairly small places a couple have split and each is shown as part of a 'new' couple on subsequent censuses. You will know that there are a number of William CROSS born around the same year as your William in the North Riding though give East or West Heslerton as a place of birth - one way to see if he is living with a new 'wife' could be to track each of these Williams back to see if any do not link to another family before 1850. A quick scan through these doesn't show any farmers but given that he was 17 in 1841 he may have changed occupation - what do the marriage certificates show as his occupation? William is definitely not in Allerston in 1851 - I checked each page. Wendy ------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As Wendy says, it was customary to refer to married women in this way . I remember an old man in the UK always referring to Mrs James ...... and Mrs John ........... even though he must have known the Christian names of the ladies concerned. I believe that it was only after the death of their husband that they were then known by their own initials, so that Mrs William Cross would only become Mrs Mary Cross after the death of her husband. This does suggest that possibly William was still alive when Mary junior died in 1850. HTH Maureen . From: Wendy King via <[email protected]> To: Lin <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 11 October 2014, 0:01 Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Missing persons Lin quick initial response: wife of Mr W Cross was the correct formal mode of address- the practice continued well into the 20th century. I Letters to married women for more often than not addressed to, for example: Mrs William Cross up to the 1960s and maybe even later You will find many burials entries in parish registers for wife of/widow of, e.g, William Cross which is particularly irritating when one was hoping that the burial would at least give you the first name of the mother of his children ! Wendy

Lin quick initial response: wife of Mr W Cross was the correct formal mode of address- the practice continued well into the 20th century. I Letters to married women for more often than not addressed to, for example: Mrs William Cross up to the 1960s and maybe even later You will find many burials entries in parish registers for wife of/widow of, e.g, William Cross which is particularly irritating when one was hoping that the burial would at least give you the first name of the mother of his children ! Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Lin via Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 3:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [YORKSGEN] Missing persons I am wondering if any eagle-eyed person could spot the whereabouts on any census after 1841 of William CROSS. He was baptised on 8 Feb 1824 at West Heslerton, Yorkshire and married Mary DALE on Jun 7 1843 West Heslerton. in 1841 he was a 17 year old farmer with 3 servants at Allerston, Yorks. In 1851 Mary is given as 'married' with daughters Elizabeth 6, William, 5, Fanny, 1 and Sarah is 3 months old and is living with her parents,and sisters. (presumably William was around to father several children?) In 1861 Mary is still 'married' with 2 daughters and a son. One child Mary died in 1850 and a newspaper announcement said' Mary daughter of Mrs W Cross' which I found rather strange. Of their children William David married in Leeds in 1867 and died there in 1883 Fanny also married in Leeds in 1869 Sarah married in Liverpool in 1869 - referred to as 'niece of' On both the Leeds marriage certificates William is given as their father, occupation farmer. So William may have died by then or might not! I also can't find Mary after 1861. She was born about 1824 in Wintringham, Yorks. I've tried every which way to find William and Mary. Any help appreciated. Lin ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am wondering if any eagle-eyed person could spot the whereabouts on any census after 1841 of William CROSS. He was baptised on 8 Feb 1824 at West Heslerton, Yorkshire and married Mary DALE on Jun 7 1843 West Heslerton. in 1841 he was a 17 year old farmer with 3 servants at Allerston, Yorks. In 1851 Mary is given as 'married' with daughters Elizabeth 6, William, 5, Fanny, 1 and Sarah is 3 months old and is living with her parents,and sisters. (presumably William was around to father several children?) In 1861 Mary is still 'married' with 2 daughters and a son. One child Mary died in 1850 and a newspaper announcement said' Mary daughter of Mrs W Cross' which I found rather strange. Of their children William David married in Leeds in 1867 and died there in 1883 Fanny also married in Leeds in 1869 Sarah married in Liverpool in 1869 - referred to as 'niece of' On both the Leeds marriage certificates William is given as their father, occupation farmer. So William may have died by then or might not! I also can't find Mary after 1861. She was born about 1824 in Wintringham, Yorks. I've tried every which way to find William and Mary. Any help appreciated. Lin

Thanks Wendy. Much appreciated. Best Wishes, Andy. At 10:17 10/10/2014, Wendy King wrote: >Looking at the address of the previous house on the census Canning Street was off George Square, George Street, Barnsley. Check this on google and you will that the area alongside George Street is now a Morrisons. You can get an idea of the type of property from the ones still standing in George St. > >Wendy > >-----Original Message----- From: Andy Micklethwaite via >Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 7:55 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [YORKSGEN] Barnsley - Canning St > >Does anyone know where Canning St in Barnsley was? It seems to have disappeared off Google maps. No worries if no-one knows - thought I'd ask as it seems quiet. I can check the enumerators sheet next time I'm in the library. Thomas Micklethwaite lived there in 1911 aged 51 - PN 27582, SN 383. >Thanks, Andy.

Looking at the address of the previous house on the census Canning Street was off George Square, George Street, Barnsley. Check this on google and you will that the area alongside George Street is now a Morrisons. You can get an idea of the type of property from the ones still standing in George St. Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Andy Micklethwaite via Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 7:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [YORKSGEN] Barnsley - Canning St Does anyone know where Canning St in Barnsley was? It seems to have disappeared off Google maps. No worries if no-one knows - thought I'd ask as it seems quiet. I can check the enumerators sheet next time I'm in the library. Thomas Micklethwaite lived there in 1911 aged 51 - PN 27582, SN 383. Thanks, Andy. ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The entry on FMP is indexed as WALSHAW. I can understand Ancestry mis-transcribing the W in this instance, but have just come across an instance of a very clear and distinct occupation of 'domestic servant' transcribed as 'general labourer' Lin On 09/10/2014 20:35, Wendy King via wrote: > I have now found Thomas on the 1841 -with his maternal grandparents indexed > as BALSHAW. As Margaret has confirmed that this is of the right family I > have made the amendments to the information on Ancestry which they will get > round to fixing eventually I expect. > > No idea what they are indexed as on FMP but the initial letter of the last > names is a pretty flamboyant 'W' that can only be confirmed by checking it > against entries made by the enumerator > > Wendy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Margaret Cambridge via > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 11:07 PM > To: [email protected] > > Martha Oddy WALSHAW, b 1816 had an illegitimate son, Thomas WALSHAW, born 29 > Jue 1837, Birstall, St Peter. > > In 1841 Martha is found as a servant in the home of James Wooler, farmer & > corn dealer, & family in Soothill. Her son Thomas is not with her. > I am unable to find Thomas in the 1841 census. I know that he was living as > Martha Oddy WALSHAW married William WAKEFIELD (who is also found as an > agricultural labourer in the home of James Wooler, above) in 1843 and > Martha's son Thomas is with them in 1851. > > I have tried every which way to find Thomas in 1841 and would appreciate any > help. > > > Marg > >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have now found Thomas on the 1841 -with his maternal grandparents indexed as BALSHAW. As Margaret has confirmed that this is of the right family I have made the amendments to the information on Ancestry which they will get round to fixing eventually I expect. No idea what they are indexed as on FMP but the initial letter of the last names is a pretty flamboyant 'W' that can only be confirmed by checking it against entries made by the enumerator Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Cambridge via Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 11:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [YORKSGEN] Help finding Thomas Walshaw Martha Oddy WALSHAW, b 1816 had an illegitimate son, Thomas WALSHAW, born 29 Jue 1837, Birstall, St Peter. In 1841 Martha is found as a servant in the home of James Wooler, farmer & corn dealer, & family in Soothill. Her son Thomas is not with her. I am unable to find Thomas in the 1841 census. I know that he was living as Martha Oddy WALSHAW married William WAKEFIELD (who is also found as an agricultural labourer in the home of James Wooler, above) in 1843 and Martha's son Thomas is with them in 1851. I have tried every which way to find Thomas in 1841 and would appreciate any help. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know where Canning St in Barnsley was? It seems to have disappeared off Google maps. No worries if no-one knows - thought I'd ask as it seems quiet. I can check the enumerators sheet next time I'm in the library. Thomas Micklethwaite lived there in 1911 aged 51 - PN 27582, SN 383. Thanks, Andy.

Jan, Enjoy your free time and OMG Sara nooooooooooooooooooooooo :P Rob -----Original Message----- From: Peter Atkinson via <[email protected]> To: yorksgen <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 8, 2014 12:52 pm Subject: [YORKSGEN] FW: Retirement Hi Janice, I have just returned from Crete and am now catching up with all my messages. After 13 years of dedication to the list you deserve a rest, and I'm sure Sara will do an equally fine job (with you looking over her shoulder). Having mentioned a ''rest'' I think for you that is impossible, and that you will still have a large input into the list along side all the other aspects of family history you are involved in. All the best Peter Newcastle upon Tyne ======================================== Message Received: Sep 30 2014, 09:36 PM From: "JANICE WOOD via" To: "[email protected]" Cc: Subject: [YORKSGEN] Retirement Dear Listers, It is time for me to retire as your listowner. I took over the Yorksgen list on 6th February 2003. We have had our ups and downs, but I have enjoyed my time here and will continue to read and learn. I would like to take this opportunity to introduce you to your new List Administrator. Please welcome Sara McGinlay. Sara has been my friend and colleague for many years and a member of Yorksgen probably longer than I have! I am sure I leave you in good hands. I hope you will all continue to enjoy Yorksgen, gain lots of knowledge, make lots of friends and, most of all, discover more about the lives of your ancestors. Good hunting everyone, and good luck Sara! Janice Wood ex Yorksgen List Admin ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message