Hi, You don't say which version of MS Word or Windows you are using, but the message is clear enough (memory = RAM). 75MB is large for a MS word document in my experience and the fact that you could load a 130MB document before suggests that there are more programs running in RAM than before. Possible solutions are: 1. Remove programs from RAM (i.e. stop them loading on start-up) 2. Delete unwanted files from disk 3. Add more RAM 4. Change the way images are managed in Word, i.e. link them rather than embed them in document. Hope this helps. Good luck! James S -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kenneth Littlewood via Sent: 11 November 2014 12:00 To: [email protected] Subject: [YORKSGEN] writing up work in book form PROBLEM. For years I have used Microsoft Word Document as my way of recording my family History in the form of a Book with script and scanned pictures, and save the pictures in JPEG Format. This as been OK but for some reason when opening up my book I now get a message,....... "there is not enough memory or disk space to display or print". The file is presently 75 MB ..... I have had the same file with 130MB and had no problems. Does any one have an idea how to rectify my problem of perhaps another way to use another file system. Thanks in anticipation Joan Littlewood ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4189/8546 - Release Date: 11/10/14 _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> . SPAMfighter has removed 32351 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? <http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen> Try a free scan!

Micro$oft have a long history of vague error messages - you cannot tell from these messages what sort of memory has run out of space, it could well be some internal thing. Have you tried with OpenOffice/LibreOffice, the free Office lookalikes? HTH Andy. At 12:00 11/11/2014, you wrote: >For years I have used Microsoft Word Document as my way of recording my family History in the form of a Book with script and scanned pictures, and save the pictures in JPEG Format. This as been OK but for some reason when opening up my book I now get a message,....... "there is not enough memory or disk space to display or print". The file is presently 75 MB ..... I have had the same file with 130MB and had no problems. Does any one have an idea how to rectify my problem of perhaps another way to use another file system. > >Thanks in anticipation >Joan Littlewood > >---------------------------------------- > > >Some useful websites - >FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ >FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > >Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > >------------------------------- > > >Links to more useful websites - > >www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org > >www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk > >www.yorkshireparishregisters.com > >www.yorkshireroots.org.uk > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For years I have used Microsoft Word Document as my way of recording my family History in the form of a Book with script and scanned pictures, and save the pictures in JPEG Format. This as been OK but for some reason when opening up my book I now get a message,....... "there is not enough memory or disk space to display or print". The file is presently 75 MB ..... I have had the same file with 130MB and had no problems. Does any one have an idea how to rectify my problem of perhaps another way to use another file system. Thanks in anticipation Joan Littlewood

In Remembrance of my grandfather Thomas George YOELL and connected family members who gave their lives that we may be free Also all those family members, to numerous to mention here that served their Country Thomas George Yoell Private M2/189877 Army Service Corps Unit : "G" Siege Park attd. VII Corps Heavy Artillery Age: 39 Died 24th November 1918 Son of Edwin and Charlotte Yoell, of "Carolgate," Retford, Notts; husband of Edith Caroline Yoell, of The Bungalow, Horsemoor Green, Langley, Bucks. Estate Agent. Grave Reference VIII. C. 38. Cemetery Busigny Communal Cemetery Extension Lawrence Ovington Serjeant 5714 4th Bn Yorkshire Regiment Age: 25 Died 16th November 1916 Son of Ralph Stephenson Ovington and Mary Ann Ovington, of 42, Tavistock St. Middlesbrough. Grave Reference Sp. Mem. C. 22. Cemetery Bazentin-Le-Petit Communal Cemetery Extension Richard John Seymour Gunner 125265 "D" Bty. 157th Bde. Royal Field Artillery Age: 19 Died 28th January 1917 Son of John and Julia Seymour, of Ash Cottage, Langley, Slough, Bucks. Grave Reference II. C. 23. Cemetery Faubourg D'Amiens Cemetery Arras Also his cousin V.A.D. nurse Florence Margaret SEYMOUR died September 1914 Daughter of Arthur Seymour & Fanny Maria nee Wells Malcolm Graeme Maccoll Nationality: Australian Private 5927 18th Bn Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Age: 46 Died 3rd May 1917 Son of the Rev. Malcolm MacColl and Maria Cecilia MacColl, of "Hillview," Harvey St., Yoker, North Glasgow Scotland. Born at Camberwell, London England. Grave Reference III. K. 6. Cemetery Arras Road Cemetery, Roclincourt ----------------------------- De Ruvigny's Roll of Honour 1914-1918 Malcolm Graeme MACCOLL 2nd Lieut 18th Battn. Australian Imperial Force, 2nd s of the late Rev Malcolm Maccoll, Rector of St Columba Yoker, by his wife, Maria C. (2 Harvey Street, Yoker), dau. of George Anderson, of Demerara; b. Camberwell, London, S.E., 3 April 1871; educ. Merchant Taylors School, and Victoria College Jersey; served in the South African War 1899 - 1902 in the Queensland 3rd Contingent; took part in the relief of Mafeking, and later transferred to the Cape Mounted Police. On the outbreak of war he obtained a commission in the Natal Light Horse, and served through the German South West Africa Campaign; afterwards joined the Expeditionary Force in France and Flanders, and was killed in action at Bullecourt 3 May, 1917; unm. Archie Hurst Private 72087 1st/5th Bn. Devonshire Regiment Age: 18 Died 30th September 1918 Son of Arthur and Amy Hurst of 65, Rue de L'eglise, A'Fromelennes, pras Givet, Ardennes, France. Native of Leicester. Grave Reference II. A. 14. Cemetery Masnieres British Cemetery, Marcoing Charles William Bull Serjeant 15205 8th Bn North Staffordshire Regiment Died 18th January 1916 Grave Reference II. M. 6. Cemetery St Vaast Post Military Cemetery, Richebourg-L'Avoue Graham Powell Private 14919 9th Bn Leicestershire Regiment Died 25th September 1916 Grave Reference Pier and Face 2 C and 3 A. Memorial Theipval Memorial Heathcote Wyndham Nationality: Australian Lieutenant 38th Bn Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Age: 44 Died 17th July 1917 Son of Hugh and Celia Wyndham; husband of G. Wyndham, of Westholm, Inverell, New South Wales. Grave II. C. 27. Cemetery Kandahar Farm Cemetery Percy Irvine Haylock Owen Second Lieutenant Died 22nd September 1917 Age: 26 Australian Infantry, A.I.F. 3rd Bn. Grave Reference: LXI. B. 9. Cemetery Tyne Cot Cemetery Son of Lt. Col. Robert Haylock Owen, C.M.G., and Hilda Grace Owen of Morton Grange, Thornbury, Glos., England. Native of Gibraltar. Charles Wesley Proud Lyth Serjeant 42535 76th Company Machine Gun Corps Age: 30 Died 5th May 1917 Husband of Carrie Lyth, of 73, Falsgrave Rd., Scarborough. Grave Reference: Bay 10. Memorial Arras Memorial Lawrence Edward F Siddons Private 9582 1st Bn The King's (Liverpool Regiment) Age: 23 Died 19th May 1915 Son of Nelson Fearn Siddons and Ellen Jane Siddons, of 225, Stockbrook St., Derby; husband of Adelaide Ann Stacey (formerly Siddons). Grave Reference Panels 6 to 8. Memorial Le Touret Memorial John Barr Anderson Driver 119421 Royal Army Service Corps Age: 23 Died 17th November 1942 Son of George Ernest Anderson, and of Janet Anderson Anderson, of St. Mawes, Cornwall. Of British Guiana. Grave Reference 1. D. 6. Cemetery Knightsbridge War Cemetery, Acroma Felix Bernard Grigioni Sergeant 1119682 (Flt. Engr.) 97 Sqdn Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve Age: 36 Died 2nd January 1944 Husband of Laura Grey, of Wallasey, Cheshire. Grave Reference 6. A. 20. Cemetery Rheinberg War Cemetery In Flanders Fields In Flanders fields the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the Dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved, and were loved, and now we lie In Flanders fields. Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields. (Major John McCrae - 3rd May 1915) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Beautiful tribute, Nivard. We also have been seeing those wonderful poppies at the Tower of London. Brilliant idea. Nancy in cold, snowy Michigan, U S of A On 11/11/2014 5:32 AM, Nivard Ovington via wrote: > In Remembrance of my grandfather Thomas George YOELL and connected > family members who gave their lives that we may be free > > Also all those family members, to numerous to mention here that served > their Country > > Thomas George Yoell > Private M2/189877 Army Service Corps > Unit : "G" Siege Park attd. VII Corps Heavy Artillery > Age: 39 > Died 24th November 1918 > Son of Edwin and Charlotte Yoell, of "Carolgate," Retford, Notts; > husband of Edith Caroline Yoell, of The Bungalow, Horsemoor Green, > Langley, Bucks. Estate Agent. > Grave Reference VIII. C. 38. > Cemetery Busigny Communal Cemetery Extension > > Lawrence Ovington > Serjeant 5714 4th Bn Yorkshire Regiment > Age: 25 > Died 16th November 1916 > Son of Ralph Stephenson Ovington and Mary Ann Ovington, of 42, Tavistock > St. Middlesbrough. > Grave Reference Sp. Mem. C. 22. > Cemetery Bazentin-Le-Petit Communal Cemetery Extension > > Richard John Seymour > Gunner 125265 "D" Bty. 157th Bde. Royal Field Artillery > Age: 19 > Died 28th January 1917 > Son of John and Julia Seymour, of Ash Cottage, Langley, Slough, Bucks. > Grave Reference II. C. 23. > Cemetery Faubourg D'Amiens Cemetery Arras > > Also his cousin V.A.D. nurse Florence Margaret SEYMOUR died September 1914 > Daughter of Arthur Seymour & Fanny Maria nee Wells > > Malcolm Graeme Maccoll > Nationality: Australian > Private 5927 18th Bn Australian Infantry, A.I.F. > Age: 46 > Died 3rd May 1917 > Son of the Rev. Malcolm MacColl and Maria Cecilia MacColl, of > "Hillview," Harvey St., Yoker, North Glasgow Scotland. Born at > Camberwell, London England. > Grave Reference III. K. 6. > Cemetery Arras Road Cemetery, Roclincourt > ----------------------------- > De Ruvigny's Roll of Honour 1914-1918 > Malcolm Graeme MACCOLL 2nd Lieut 18th Battn. Australian Imperial Force, > 2nd s of the late Rev Malcolm Maccoll, Rector of St Columba Yoker, by > his wife, Maria C. (2 Harvey Street, Yoker), dau. of George Anderson, of > Demerara; b. Camberwell, London, S.E., 3 April 1871; educ. Merchant > Taylors School, and Victoria College Jersey; served in the South African > War 1899 - 1902 in the Queensland 3rd Contingent; took part in the > relief of Mafeking, and later transferred to the Cape Mounted Police. On > the outbreak of war he obtained a commission in the Natal Light Horse, > and served through the German South West Africa Campaign; afterwards > joined the Expeditionary Force in France and Flanders, and was killed in > action at Bullecourt 3 May, 1917; unm. > > Archie Hurst > Private 72087 1st/5th Bn. Devonshire Regiment > Age: 18 > Died 30th September 1918 > Son of Arthur and Amy Hurst of 65, Rue de L'eglise, A'Fromelennes, pras > Givet, Ardennes, France. Native of Leicester. > Grave Reference II. A. 14. > Cemetery Masnieres British Cemetery, Marcoing > > Charles William Bull > Serjeant 15205 8th Bn North Staffordshire Regiment > Died 18th January 1916 > Grave Reference II. M. 6. > Cemetery St Vaast Post Military Cemetery, Richebourg-L'Avoue > > Graham Powell > Private 14919 9th Bn Leicestershire Regiment > Died 25th September 1916 > Grave Reference Pier and Face 2 C and 3 A. > Memorial Theipval Memorial > > Heathcote Wyndham > Nationality: Australian > Lieutenant 38th Bn Australian Infantry, A.I.F. > Age: 44 > Died 17th July 1917 > Son of Hugh and Celia Wyndham; husband of G. Wyndham, of Westholm, > Inverell, New South Wales. > Grave II. C. 27. > Cemetery Kandahar Farm Cemetery > > Percy Irvine Haylock Owen > Second Lieutenant > Died 22nd September 1917 > Age: 26 > Australian Infantry, A.I.F. 3rd Bn. > Grave Reference: LXI. B. 9. > Cemetery Tyne Cot Cemetery > Son of Lt. Col. Robert Haylock Owen, C.M.G., and Hilda Grace Owen of > Morton Grange, Thornbury, Glos., England. Native of Gibraltar. > > Charles Wesley Proud Lyth > Serjeant 42535 76th Company Machine Gun Corps > Age: 30 > Died 5th May 1917 > Husband of Carrie Lyth, of 73, Falsgrave Rd., Scarborough. > Grave Reference: Bay 10. > Memorial Arras Memorial > > Lawrence Edward F Siddons > Private 9582 1st Bn The King's (Liverpool Regiment) > Age: 23 > Died 19th May 1915 > Son of Nelson Fearn Siddons and Ellen Jane Siddons, of 225, Stockbrook > St., Derby; husband of Adelaide Ann Stacey (formerly Siddons). > Grave Reference Panels 6 to 8. > Memorial Le Touret Memorial > > John Barr Anderson > Driver 119421 Royal Army Service Corps > Age: 23 > Died 17th November 1942 > Son of George Ernest Anderson, and of Janet Anderson Anderson, of St. > Mawes, Cornwall. Of British Guiana. > Grave Reference 1. D. 6. > Cemetery Knightsbridge War Cemetery, Acroma > > Felix Bernard Grigioni > Sergeant 1119682 (Flt. Engr.) > 97 Sqdn Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve > Age: 36 > Died 2nd January 1944 > Husband of Laura Grey, of Wallasey, Cheshire. > Grave Reference 6. A. 20. > Cemetery Rheinberg War Cemetery > > > In Flanders Fields > > In Flanders fields the poppies blow > Between the crosses, row on row, > That mark our place; and in the sky > The larks, still bravely singing, fly > Scarce heard amid the guns below. > > We are the Dead. Short days ago > We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, > Loved, and were loved, and now we lie > In Flanders fields. > > Take up our quarrel with the foe: > To you from failing hands we throw > The torch; be yours to hold it high. > If ye break faith with us who die > We shall not sleep, though poppies grow > In Flanders fields. > > (Major John McCrae - 3rd May 1915) > > >

Christine The army records that you need are only on FMP to my knowledge and relate to the "British Army Service Records 1760-1915" this is classes WO96 and WO97 at TNA and are better known as the Chelsea Hospital Records. They show that he joined in 1829 and was discharged in Belfast in 1854 He joined 26 Oct 1829 24 Dec 1831 promoted to Corporal 29 Jun 1833 promoted to Sergeant 23 Apr 1834 promoted to Colour Sergeant These are his actual army service papers and consist of some 9 pages. The reason that I mentioned his death certificate is that it will tell you exactly who registered to death and were he was living at the time. I am not aware of any Army Hospitals in Yorkshire. There are none mentioned in the Victoria County history other than York itself What you found on Ancestry was "UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Registers of Soldiers Who Served in Canada, 1743-1882" Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Christine Buckland [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 10 November 2014 22:52 To: John Hanson Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Military history Hello John, I used Ancestry when checking my 3xgreat grandfather's records. No, I don't have a death certificate. I wondered if there was an old soldiers' hospital or similar in Leeds. The only Thomas Baxendale I can find, who died in the last quarter of 1857, died in Knaresborough. I thought I was doing well tracing his army service, his marriage in Gibraltar and Jamaican records (which were attained by post about 5 years ago) for the birth of my 2xg grandmother but now I am stumped. Any help gratefully received. Best wishes, Christine Buckland

Christine I assume that you have checked his service record on FMP? Have you got his death certificate as that may give you a clue? Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christine Buckland via Sent: 10 November 2014 16:33 To: [email protected] Subject: [YORKSGEN] Military history I wonder if anyone can help me with this enquiry. One of my forebears was pensioned out of the Army prior to his regiment going to the Crimea. On an army pension list he is mentioned as being at Leeds. Was there a pensioners' hospital there? His name was Thomas Baxendale. Formerly of Almondbury, Yorkshire. He was a Colour Sergeant in the 68th Regiment of Foot. His dates - 1811 to 1857. He served in Canada, Scotland, Gibraltar, Jamaica, Canada again, before being discharged in Ireland "Worn out through long service" He was admitted to the Leeds Residence for pensioners on 11th July 1854 and died there (I surmise) on 12/11/1857. I have a reference number: F25,573/27, if I remember correctly, I got these details from the Chelsea Pensioner Register of Soldiers who served in Canada 1743 - 1882. I have traced his military career with only small success and would like to know how and where he died as he was only in Leeds for two and a half years. His daughter, Frances Baxendale (married name Hollingworth) was my 2xgreat grandmother. I wonder if Yorksgen has any Military historians out there? Christine Buckland ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder if anyone can help me with this enquiry. One of my forebears was pensioned out of the Army prior to his regiment going to the Crimea. On an army pension list he is mentioned as being at Leeds. Was there a pensioners' hospital there? His name was Thomas Baxendale. Formerly of Almondbury, Yorkshire. He was a Colour Sergeant in the 68th Regiment of Foot. His dates - 1811 to 1857. He served in Canada, Scotland, Gibraltar, Jamaica, Canada again, before being discharged in Ireland “Worn out through long service” He was admitted to the Leeds Residence for pensioners on 11th July 1854 and died there (I surmise) on 12/11/1857. I have a reference number: F25,573/27, if I remember correctly, I got these details from the Chelsea Pensioner Register of Soldiers who served in Canada 1743 - 1882. I have traced his military career with only small success and would like to know how and where he died as he was only in Leeds for two and a half years. His daughter, Frances Baxendale (married name Hollingworth) was my 2xgreat grandmother. I wonder if Yorksgen has any Military historians out there? Christine Buckland

. . . .and written by Douglas Adams in 1979, long before we had access to personal computers, the internet and those pesky help files. How did he know that we'd get peculiar answers to questions we asked on the internet, because we didn't really know what was the right question to ask? The man was a genius. For those who aren't already fans of "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy", in the story it's an intergalactic encyclopaedia with "Don't Panic" written on the cover. Within the story, Deep Thought (the biggest computer in the universe) is asked for the answer to " The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything". After months of processor time, it produces the answer - 42. Hence the dialogue below. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Micklethwaite [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 10 November 2014 13:33 To: Nick Higton; [email protected]; 'Christine Benson'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] WILSON - Harding Beck That's the same computer used to generate topics for computer help files :-) Andy. At 11:00 10/11/2014, Nick Higton via wrote: >Or, as written in "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy" >"I checked it very thoroughly," said the computer, "and that quite >definitely is the answer. I think the problem, to be quite honest with >you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." >"But it was the Great Question! The Ultimate Question of Life, the >Universe and Everything," howled Loonquawl. >"Yes," said Deep Thought with the air of one who suffers fools gladly, >"but what actually is it?" >A slow stupefied silence crept over the men as they stared at the >computer and then at each other. >"Well, you know, it's just Everything . Everything ..." offered Phouchg >weakly. >"Exactly!" said Deep Thought. "So once you know what the question >actually is, you'll know what the answer means."

That's the same computer used to generate topics for computer help files :-) Andy. At 11:00 10/11/2014, Nick Higton via wrote: >Or, as written in "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy" >"I checked it very thoroughly," said the computer, "and that quite >definitely is the answer. I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, >is that you've never actually known what the question is." >"But it was the Great Question! The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe >and Everything," howled Loonquawl. >"Yes," said Deep Thought with the air of one who suffers fools gladly, "but >what actually is it?" >A slow stupefied silence crept over the men as they stared at the computer >and then at each other. >"Well, you know, it's just Everything . Everything ..." offered Phouchg >weakly. >"Exactly!" said Deep Thought. "So once you know what the question actually >is, you'll know what the answer means."

So he is, with his complete family including Sarah who is my principal interest. I've been using the Find My Past free weekend to search for her, and I think the problem has been my misunderstanding of how the search facility on the home page works. Alongside boxes for the person's name and birth year, is a location box. I now believe this links to the location the person was living at the time the record was made, rather that the location of the birth. So, a search for Ezra Wilson born 1858, location East Ardsley, Yorkshire didn't find and obvious matches in the 1871 Census because the family wasn't in East Ardsley in 1871 etc. but in Lanarkshire! Or, as written in "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy" "I checked it very thoroughly," said the computer, "and that quite definitely is the answer. I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." "But it was the Great Question! The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything," howled Loonquawl. "Yes," said Deep Thought with the air of one who suffers fools gladly, "but what actually is it?" A slow stupefied silence crept over the men as they stared at the computer and then at each other. "Well, you know, it's just Everything . Everything ..." offered Phouchg weakly. "Exactly!" said Deep Thought. "So once you know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." -----Original Message----- From: Christine Benson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 09 November 2014 23:26 To: Nick; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] WILSON - Harding Beck Hi Nick, Ezra is in the Glasgow area from 1871 to 1901 and then in Bradford in 1911 as an inmate of what calls itself a lodging house. I can send you more details if you can't find him but Ezra is a good name to search on, unlike James. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Nick via Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:03 PM To: historydb ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] WILSON - Harding Beck Hello, Alan Many thanks, this feels correct. I also have a probable fit for James Wilson in the 1851 census in Keighley, but I'll get the Birth Certificate of his daughter, Sarah, and then his Marriage Certificate (probably to Mary GOTT of Heaton), to check. Unfortunately, he and his son, Ezra, seem to have disappeared from the 1871 and later censuses. Kind regardsNick Kind regards Nick Higton -------- Original message -------- From: historydb <[email protected]> Date: 09/11/2014 14:02 (GMT+00:00) To: Nick Higton <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: RE: [YORKSGEN] WILSON - Harding Beck This is likely to be Harden Beck which is near Bingley - Not too far away from Heaton nr Bradford. Alan Longbottom -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Nick Higton via Sent: 09 November 2014 11:57 To: [email protected] Subject: [YORKSGEN] WILSON - Harding Beck I'm researching an 1861 Census entry for East Ardsley, where the person of interest (James WILSON) has given his birthplace as "Harding Beck". His wife's birthplace was "Heaton Syke" (Bradford), and his two children were born in East Ardsley. Where is/was Harding Beck? ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Nick, Ezra is in the Glasgow area from 1871 to 1901 and then in Bradford in 1911 as an inmate of what calls itself a lodging house. I can send you more details if you can't find him but Ezra is a good name to search on, unlike James. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Nick via Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:03 PM To: historydb ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] WILSON - Harding Beck Hello, Alan Many thanks, this feels correct. I also have a probable fit for James Wilson in the 1851 census in Keighley, but I'll get the Birth Certificate of his daughter, Sarah, and then his Marriage Certificate (probably to Mary GOTT of Heaton), to check. Unfortunately, he and his son, Ezra, seem to have disappeared from the 1871 and later censuses. Kind regardsNick Kind regards Nick Higton -------- Original message -------- From: historydb <[email protected]> Date: 09/11/2014 14:02 (GMT+00:00) To: Nick Higton <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: RE: [YORKSGEN] WILSON - Harding Beck This is likely to be Harden Beck which is near Bingley - Not too far away from Heaton nr Bradford. Alan Longbottom -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Nick Higton via Sent: 09 November 2014 11:57 To: [email protected] Subject: [YORKSGEN] WILSON - Harding Beck I'm researching an 1861 Census entry for East Ardsley, where the person of interest (James WILSON) has given his birthplace as "Harding Beck". His wife's birthplace was "Heaton Syke" (Bradford), and his two children were born in East Ardsley. Where is/was Harding Beck? ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Alan Many thanks, this feels correct. I also have a probable fit for James Wilson in the 1851 census in Keighley, but I'll get the Birth Certificate of his daughter, Sarah, and then his Marriage Certificate (probably to Mary GOTT of Heaton), to check. Unfortunately, he and his son, Ezra, seem to have disappeared from the 1871 and later censuses. Kind regardsNick Kind regards Nick Higton -------- Original message -------- From: historydb <[email protected]> Date: 09/11/2014 14:02 (GMT+00:00) To: Nick Higton <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: RE: [YORKSGEN] WILSON - Harding Beck This is likely to be Harden Beck which is near Bingley - Not too far away from Heaton nr Bradford. Alan Longbottom -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Nick Higton via Sent: 09 November 2014 11:57 To: [email protected] Subject: [YORKSGEN] WILSON - Harding Beck I'm researching an 1861 Census entry for East Ardsley, where the person of interest (James WILSON) has given his birthplace as "Harding Beck". His wife's birthplace was "Heaton Syke" (Bradford), and his two children were born in East Ardsley. Where is/was Harding Beck? ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree. We have no budget for this project, so I cannot buy certificates. How do I triangulate to ensure that what I have found is correct? Chris ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 09/11/2014 - 17:06 (GMTST) To : [email protected], [email protected] Subject : Re: [YORKSGEN] ww2 records Chris Ancestry have bmd's to 2006 if you know the parents surnames just put them both on freebmd and years range that will come up with a list of children and when they were born. Only problem is when there are more than one couple with same surname you won't know which kid belongs to which couple. I do this all the time when I come across trees with hidden names of children or spouse Victor -----Original Message----- From: "CHRISTINE WILLOTT via" <[email protected]> Sent: ‎09/‎11/‎2014 16:22 To: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] ww2 records Hmmmm Thanks Nivard I've looked at the 2 websites you suggest. I have a FMP sub but the link does not seem to state when these records will come online. The other web site is disappointing in that it deals with individual records. I was hoping for the details of the other people in the household. I know that the person who died in WW2 is dead. What I need are the details of the rest of the family. it seems I have to know names before I can apply for info. This is a catch 22. A thought - Anyone know how to get WW2 soldiers wills please? Sorry all - my experience with FH is of going backwards. I know all my personal family of this generation so I have never had to do this period before. Chris ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 09/11/2014 - 15:52 (GMTST) To : [email protected] Subject : Re: [YORKSGEN] ww2 records Hi Chris I suspect you mean the 1939 National identity registration You will need deep pockets though http://www.hscic.gov.uk/register-service Until <http://www.sog.org.uk/news/article/findmypast-to-make-1939-national-identity-card-register-online> As and when (if) they become available and in what form Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/11/2014 15:37, CHRISTINE WILLOTT via wrote: > Hi all, > This is not Yorkshire, but you may be able to help. > I seem to remember that although there was no census in 1941, there was a record taken for ID purposes and to guide conscription possibly in the late 30s. Can anyone remember what this count was called and does anyone know where to access the info if it is available? Is it at the NRA? We are struggling to find the WW2 men on the local war memorial. Any ideas of where to look would be appreciated. When the families disappear from the electoral role when they move - where do you look? Freebmd is incomplete and only goes as far as the 1980s. The parish records are available on Ancestry but are not proving helpful. I have yet to try the local media. The school admission records have been checked and not all of the men went to school locally. Next year is the 70th anniversary of the end of WW2. > We had a packed house again at the remembrance Sunday service this morning with many of the WW1 families we have traced coming. > Many thanks > Chris ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris Ancestry have bmd's to 2006 if you know the parents surnames just put them both on freebmd and years range that will come up with a list of children and when they were born. Only problem is when there are more than one couple with same surname you won't know which kid belongs to which couple. I do this all the time when I come across trees with hidden names of children or spouse Victor -----Original Message----- From: "CHRISTINE WILLOTT via" <[email protected]> Sent: ‎09/‎11/‎2014 16:22 To: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] ww2 records Hmmmm Thanks Nivard I've looked at the 2 websites you suggest. I have a FMP sub but the link does not seem to state when these records will come online. The other web site is disappointing in that it deals with individual records. I was hoping for the details of the other people in the household. I know that the person who died in WW2 is dead. What I need are the details of the rest of the family. it seems I have to know names before I can apply for info. This is a catch 22. A thought - Anyone know how to get WW2 soldiers wills please? Sorry all - my experience with FH is of going backwards. I know all my personal family of this generation so I have never had to do this period before. Chris ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 09/11/2014 - 15:52 (GMTST) To : [email protected] Subject : Re: [YORKSGEN] ww2 records Hi Chris I suspect you mean the 1939 National identity registration You will need deep pockets though http://www.hscic.gov.uk/register-service Until <http://www.sog.org.uk/news/article/findmypast-to-make-1939-national-identity-card-register-online> As and when (if) they become available and in what form Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/11/2014 15:37, CHRISTINE WILLOTT via wrote: > Hi all, > This is not Yorkshire, but you may be able to help. > I seem to remember that although there was no census in 1941, there was a record taken for ID purposes and to guide conscription possibly in the late 30s. Can anyone remember what this count was called and does anyone know where to access the info if it is available? Is it at the NRA? We are struggling to find the WW2 men on the local war memorial. Any ideas of where to look would be appreciated. When the families disappear from the electoral role when they move - where do you look? Freebmd is incomplete and only goes as far as the 1980s. The parish records are available on Ancestry but are not proving helpful. I have yet to try the local media. The school admission records have been checked and not all of the men went to school locally. Next year is the 70th anniversary of the end of WW2. > We had a packed house again at the remembrance Sunday service this morning with many of the WW1 families we have traced coming. > Many thanks > Chris ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John I'm not sure from your mail whether or not you think that the family on 1841 census are 'yours' On the 1851 census for Stainbrough there is: John GODDARD, 51, undergame keeper born Barnsley with wife Ann, 34 sons George, 14; John, 11; William, 9; Henery 7; Walter, 6m, dau Maria, 2 and [mother in law ??] Mary Shaw, 60 all the children were born Stainborough and as the eldest was born about 1837 that would seem to indicate they were there before 1841 census here they are on 1841 census Stainobrough: John Goddard, 40, bleacher Ann Goddard 25, Charles Goddard, 5 George Goddard, 5, John Goddard 2, Mary Shaw, 60 John Allen 70 he married Ann Elizabeth ALLEN 14 May 1835 in Stainborough which makes the 1851 entry for Mary Shaw rather odd. looks like he may have died in 1852 as there is a burial for John Goddard Stainborough aged 55 possible baptism: John son of Jno and Alice Goddard 20 Aug 1797 born 30 April St Mary Barnsley Lin On 09/11/2014 10:22, John Lindley via wrote: > Hi List > I am trying to trace a family called Goddard. > I have traced back to 1841 through the census having come from > Stainbrough near to Barnsley in Yorkshire.. > > The 41 census has a John Goddard, who was born in 1801, but as you know > on the 1841 just says the County of birth. I feel sure they may have > still been in Stainbrough prior to 1841. > > Any help would be appreciated > > Many thanks > > Regards John Lindley > ---------------------------------------- > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > > > Links to more useful websites - > > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org > > www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk > > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com > > www.yorkshireroots.org.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --

You have it in a nutshell Chris No date given for release and I believe once they are they will be redacted and not include the full information Soldiers will should be on the Gov site https://www.gov.uk/probate-search Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/11/2014 16:22, CHRISTINE WILLOTT wrote: > Hmmmm > > > Thanks Nivard > > I've looked at the 2 websites you suggest. I have a FMP sub but the link does not seem to state when these records will come online. > > The other web site is disappointing in that it deals with individual records. I was hoping for the details of the other people in the household. I know that the person who died in WW2 is dead. What I need are the details of the rest of the family. it seems I have to know names before I can apply for info. This is a catch 22. > > A thought - Anyone know how to get WW2 soldiers wills please? > > Sorry all - my experience with FH is of going backwards. I know all my personal family of this generation so I have never had to do this period before. > > Chris

Hmmmm Thanks Nivard I've looked at the 2 websites you suggest. I have a FMP sub but the link does not seem to state when these records will come online. The other web site is disappointing in that it deals with individual records. I was hoping for the details of the other people in the household. I know that the person who died in WW2 is dead. What I need are the details of the rest of the family. it seems I have to know names before I can apply for info. This is a catch 22. A thought - Anyone know how to get WW2 soldiers wills please? Sorry all - my experience with FH is of going backwards. I know all my personal family of this generation so I have never had to do this period before. Chris ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 09/11/2014 - 15:52 (GMTST) To : [email protected] Subject : Re: [YORKSGEN] ww2 records Hi Chris I suspect you mean the 1939 National identity registration You will need deep pockets though http://www.hscic.gov.uk/register-service Until <http://www.sog.org.uk/news/article/findmypast-to-make-1939-national-identity-card-register-online> As and when (if) they become available and in what form Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/11/2014 15:37, CHRISTINE WILLOTT via wrote: > Hi all, > This is not Yorkshire, but you may be able to help. > I seem to remember that although there was no census in 1941, there was a record taken for ID purposes and to guide conscription possibly in the late 30s. Can anyone remember what this count was called and does anyone know where to access the info if it is available? Is it at the NRA? We are struggling to find the WW2 men on the local war memorial. Any ideas of where to look would be appreciated. When the families disappear from the electoral role when they move - where do you look? Freebmd is incomplete and only goes as far as the 1980s. The parish records are available on Ancestry but are not proving helpful. I have yet to try the local media. The school admission records have been checked and not all of the men went to school locally. Next year is the 70th anniversary of the end of WW2. > We had a packed house again at the remembrance Sunday service this morning with many of the WW1 families we have traced coming. > Many thanks > Chris ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris I suspect you mean the 1939 National identity registration You will need deep pockets though http://www.hscic.gov.uk/register-service Until <http://www.sog.org.uk/news/article/findmypast-to-make-1939-national-identity-card-register-online> As and when (if) they become available and in what form Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/11/2014 15:37, CHRISTINE WILLOTT via wrote: > Hi all, > This is not Yorkshire, but you may be able to help. > I seem to remember that although there was no census in 1941, there was a record taken for ID purposes and to guide conscription possibly in the late 30s. Can anyone remember what this count was called and does anyone know where to access the info if it is available? Is it at the NRA? We are struggling to find the WW2 men on the local war memorial. Any ideas of where to look would be appreciated. When the families disappear from the electoral role when they move - where do you look? Freebmd is incomplete and only goes as far as the 1980s. The parish records are available on Ancestry but are not proving helpful. I have yet to try the local media. The school admission records have been checked and not all of the men went to school locally. Next year is the 70th anniversary of the end of WW2. > We had a packed house again at the remembrance Sunday service this morning with many of the WW1 families we have traced coming. > Many thanks > Chris

1939 ID Cards , I think is what you are thinking about. Everyone had to have one Sent from my HTC ----- Reply message ----- From: "CHRISTINE WILLOTT via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [YORKSGEN] ww2 records Date: Sun, Nov 9, 2014 15:37 Hi all, This is not Yorkshire, but you may be able to help. I seem to remember that although there was no census in 1941, there was a record taken for ID purposes and to guide conscription possibly in the late 30s. Can anyone remember what this count was called and does anyone know where to access the info if it is available? Is it at the NRA? We are struggling to find the WW2 men on the local war memorial. Any ideas of where to look would be appreciated. When the families disappear from the electoral role when they move - where do you look? Freebmd is incomplete and only goes as far as the 1980s. The parish records are available on Ancestry but are not proving helpful. I have yet to try the local media. The school admission records have been checked and not all of the men went to school locally. Next year is the 70th anniversary of the end of WW2. We had a packed house again at the remembrance Sunday service this morning with many of the WW1 families we have traced coming. Many thanks Chris ---------------------------------------- Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.org.uk/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- Links to more useful websites - www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk www.yorkshireparishregisters.com www.yorkshireroots.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message