Nivard, in my case, no. I was married civilly in London and religiously in Freetown, Sierra Leone. My husband was RC. Had we had the time to do both in the UK (he was military) we would have done both ceremonies here and I'm pretty sure that both would then have been entered. In my gt uncle's case, yes. He was married in both South Muskham CofE and in Newark RC churches on the same day. His wife was RC. Both ceremonies are registered in the GRO. Ruth

If it is of interest to anyone - I transcribed the Log Book for Harwood Dale School - 1882-1902 also much of Barton le Street School Log Book - 1874-1909 Happy to do look-ups. Mabel in NZ .

Hi Ruth But are your two marriages both registered in the GRO indexes ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/11/2014 10:07, Ruth Genda via wrote: > Some of us do have two marriage ceremonies - one civil and one religious. > Mine, for perfectly valid reasons, are 9 months apart. > > An ancestor in Newark, Nottinghamshire, had two ceremonies on the same day > (late 19thC) - again for the same reasons, civil and religious. > > > > Ruth

Some of us do have two marriage ceremonies - one civil and one religious. Mine, for perfectly valid reasons, are 9 months apart. An ancestor in Newark, Nottinghamshire, had two ceremonies on the same day (late 19thC) - again for the same reasons, civil and religious. Ruth

They certainly look the same couple as the names are, as you say, quite unusual. The only instance I've come across in my family of a double registration is one which took place in England whilst the groom was still married and then several years later another marriage in America after the divorce had gone through. Lin On 23/11/2014 22:32, Nivard Ovington via wrote: > There may have been an impediment with the first marriage > > (one or other party was still married, or some other reason) > > Or there was another couple of the same names > > As you rightly say the only way would be to get or find the marriages > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 23/11/2014 22:26, Mark Gatenby via wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Has anyone come across a marriage being registered twice? >> >> Researching for a friend, I have just found his parents marriage clearly registered both in Bootle Lancs Q4 1948 and also in Shoreditch London Q4 1950. >> Their respective names are quite unusual so it must be the same couple. >> >> How can this happen? >> >> I suppose this can only be confirmed from obtaining a copy of both certificates…. >> >> Mark > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --

There may have been an impediment with the first marriage (one or other party was still married, or some other reason) Or there was another couple of the same names As you rightly say the only way would be to get or find the marriages Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/11/2014 22:26, Mark Gatenby via wrote: > Hello all, > > Has anyone come across a marriage being registered twice? > > Researching for a friend, I have just found his parents marriage clearly registered both in Bootle Lancs Q4 1948 and also in Shoreditch London Q4 1950. > Their respective names are quite unusual so it must be the same couple. > > How can this happen? > > I suppose this can only be confirmed from obtaining a copy of both certificates…. > > Mark

Hello all, Has anyone come across a marriage being registered twice? Researching for a friend, I have just found his parents marriage clearly registered both in Bootle Lancs Q4 1948 and also in Shoreditch London Q4 1950. Their respective names are quite unusual so it must be the same couple. How can this happen? I suppose this can only be confirmed from obtaining a copy of both certificates…. Mark The Gatenby’s of Yorkshire www.gatenby.org <http://www.gatenby.org/>.uk Mark Gatenby in Middlesbrough UK

Hi Barbara, Schooling did not become compulsory until the 1870s. There was an assortment of schools available. You could well do with a local history book to find out which schools were in your area. If the records are at the county archive, they are unlikely to be digitised. The only way to find out if your person went to that school is to wade your way through them. Even tiny villages may have had more than one school. It really is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Chris ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 23/11/2014 - 17:02 (GMTST) To : [email protected] Subject : Re: [YORKSGEN] pupil teachers Not being too familiar with local geography would anyone know where the records for Ingleby-Greenhow school would be? My g-grandfather taught there up to 1871 and I've sent them several messages asking for info but have gotten no response. Thanks Barbara McLean Murrieta, CA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of CHRISTINE WILLOTT via Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:39 AM To: Mawer; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] pupil teachers Hi Pauline, Last Saturday the London group of Yorkshire FHSs had a very interesting talk at the SOG from Celia Heritage about using school records in family history. I t seems that whilst some school records have found their way into the local county archive, others may still be with the school. As there were numerous types of school in the 19th C some records have disappeared altogether. Chris ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 23/11/2014 - 16:04 (GMTST) To : [email protected] Subject : Re: [YORKSGEN] pupil teachers Pauline My wife, who is currently researching the history of the school she taught in Northamptonshire, says ... Sometimes mentioned in school log books. Usually mentioned in inspection reports. Bryan Mawer. www.mawer.clara.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pauline, Last Saturday the London group of Yorkshire FHSs had a very interesting talk at the SOG from Celia Heritage about using school records in family history. I t seems that whilst some school records have found their way into the local county archive, others may still be with the school. As there were numerous types of school in the 19th C some records have disappeared altogether. Chris ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 23/11/2014 - 16:04 (GMTST) To : [email protected] Subject : Re: [YORKSGEN] pupil teachers Pauline My wife, who is currently researching the history of the school she taught in Northamptonshire, says ... Sometimes mentioned in school log books. Usually mentioned in inspection reports. Bryan Mawer. www.mawer.clara.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pauline My wife, who is currently researching the history of the school she taught in Northamptonshire, says ... Sometimes mentioned in school log books. Usually mentioned in inspection reports. Bryan Mawer. www.mawer.clara.net

Does anybody know if pupil teachers were listed on school records? Thank you pauline alden 13 swann street York YO23 1AF --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Thank you very much mike. I believe that they were 3 brothers but I am finding the career of William Alden more difficult to trace. pauline alden 13 swann street York YO23 1AF -----Original Message----- From: Michael J Hulme [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 November 2014 11:56 To: pauline alden Subject: RE: [YORKSGEN] help with parish records Patrington Hello Pauline I have just received this from my brother in law.  You probably have some of it but just possible something is new. Mike_____________________________________________________ I don't know if the following is of interest or help to your contact, but this is what I have been able to work out for David Alden. I can't find his marriage so the wife's maiden name was guesswork, but does all seem to fit.   David ALDEN b. 1842 @ Thorpe Abbott, Norfolk. m. Emma b.1842 @ Cherry Burton, E.R. Yorks. Emma Cook bapt. 1.5.1842 @ Cherry Burton by Ralph & Mary Cook.   Children Mary Cook b. 1866 @ Cherry Burton Ann Elizabeth b. 1868 @ Melbourne Jane Ellen b. 1869 @ Driffield George Henry b. 1870 @ Laxton Emma b. 1872 @ Patrington d. 1876 (3 years) Laura b. 1874 @ Patrington d. 1876 (2 years) James William b. 1877 @ Patrington Charles Richard b. 1878 @ Howden Emily b. 1881 @ Melbourne Alice Maud b. 1884 @ Melbourne   David ALDEN joined the East Riding Constabulary on 24.6.1865 and served as a constable until 1894 when he retired. Died 1927 aged 85, presumably at Cherry Burton as the death was registered at Beverley.   Census locations 1861 Bewholme with Nunkeeling (near Hornsea) 18 yrs. old ag.lab. 1871 Laxton, near Howden, 29 yrs. police constable 1881 Melbourne, near Pocklington, 38 yrs. police constable 1891 Eastrington, near Howden, 49 yrs. police constable 1901 Cherry Burton, near Beverley, 59 yrs. retired policeman (only him & wife at home.) 1911 Cherry Burton, 69 yrs. police pensioner, (him, wife, Emily & Alice at home) ________________________________ = --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Many School Log books being filmed by findmypast. Yorkshire's not yet covered. Content list: http://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/britain-national-school-admission-regis ters-and-log-books-school-list?_ga=1.66282733.258785781.1416761521 Ingleby Greenhow, North Riding: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Inglebygreenhow/ Records should be at North Yorkshire Record Office, Northallerton:- A search of their online catalogue (not complete) shows school plans: http://archives.northyorks.gov.uk/dserve/ Area covered by Cleveland Family History Society: http://www.clevelandfhs.org.uk/ Best wishes Jackie Mrs Jacqueline G Depelle www.yorksgroup.org.uk Chairman, Yorkshire Group of FHSs Family History Tutor, Speaker and Fair Organiser www.yourfairladies.co.uk

Not being too familiar with local geography would anyone know where the records for Ingleby-Greenhow school would be? My g-grandfather taught there up to 1871 and I've sent them several messages asking for info but have gotten no response. Thanks Barbara McLean Murrieta, CA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of CHRISTINE WILLOTT via Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:39 AM To: Mawer; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] pupil teachers Hi Pauline, Last Saturday the London group of Yorkshire FHSs had a very interesting talk at the SOG from Celia Heritage about using school records in family history. I t seems that whilst some school records have found their way into the local county archive, others may still be with the school. As there were numerous types of school in the 19th C some records have disappeared altogether. Chris ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 23/11/2014 - 16:04 (GMTST) To : [email protected] Subject : Re: [YORKSGEN] pupil teachers Pauline My wife, who is currently researching the history of the school she taught in Northamptonshire, says ... Sometimes mentioned in school log books. Usually mentioned in inspection reports. Bryan Mawer. www.mawer.clara.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The above project includes a Yorkshire County Study: http://www.englandsimmigrants.com/commentary/county-studies/yorkshire/ For details of the associated launch conferences in York and London visit: http://www.englandsimmigrants.com/news/conferences/ Jackie Mrs Jacqueline G Depelle www.yorksgroup.org.uk Chairman, Yorkshire Group of FHSs Family History Tutor, Speaker and Fair Organiser www.yourfairladies.co.uk

You guys are amazing! Thanks to everyone who replied so quickly. I can now eliminate William Waldron or Weldron from the search thanks again Jane -----Original Message----- From: Jane Woodall via Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [YORKSGEN] Help deciphering entry please Hi folks As you may know, I’m tracing the Weldrake/Weldrick family which originates in Yorkshire as a one name study. I’ve come across an entry on Ancestry – in the Lancashire baptisms, marriages and burials 1538-1812 for Anne Simmeon Weldrake, daughter of William, a mariner, and his wife Susannah (Guyner). Born July 22 1801, bapt Oct 4 1801 in Liverpool. Anne looks to be Simmons rather than Simmeon on the actual entry and I’m not certain William is a Weldrake. The name doesn’t look quite right. Would anyone have a minute to have a look and see what they think please? thanks very much Jane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jane If you look at the same record set there is a marriage for William WELDRON to Susannah GAYNER on 11 September 1800 A much clearer image. Lin On 23 November 2014, at 00:14, Jane Woodall via <[email protected]> wrote: Hi folks As you may know, I’m tracing the Weldrake/Weldrick family which originates in Yorkshire as a one name study. I’ve come across an entry on Ancestry – in the Lancashire baptisms, marriages and burials 1538-1812 for Anne Simmeon Weldrake, daughter of William, a mariner, and his wife Susannah (Guyner). Born July 22 1801, bapt Oct 4 1801 in Liverpool. Anne looks to be Simmons rather than Simmeon on the actual entry and I’m not certain William is a Weldrake. The name doesn’t look quite right. Would anyone have a minute to have a look and see what they think please? thanks very much Jane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jane, It does look like Simmons and Weldron. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Woodall via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:49 PM Subject: [YORKSGEN] Help deciphering entry please > Hi folks > > As you may know, I’m tracing the Weldrake/Weldrick family which originates > in Yorkshire as a one name study. > > I’ve come across an entry on Ancestry – in the Lancashire baptisms, > marriages and burials 1538-1812 for Anne Simmeon Weldrake, daughter of > William, a mariner, and his wife Susannah (Guyner). Born July 22 1801, > bapt Oct 4 1801 in Liverpool. > > Anne looks to be Simmons rather than Simmeon on the actual entry and I’m > not certain William is a Weldrake. The name doesn’t look quite right. > Would anyone have a minute to have a look and see what they think please? > > thanks very much > > Jane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi folks As you may know, I’m tracing the Weldrake/Weldrick family which originates in Yorkshire as a one name study. I’ve come across an entry on Ancestry – in the Lancashire baptisms, marriages and burials 1538-1812 for Anne Simmeon Weldrake, daughter of William, a mariner, and his wife Susannah (Guyner). Born July 22 1801, bapt Oct 4 1801 in Liverpool. Anne looks to be Simmons rather than Simmeon on the actual entry and I’m not certain William is a Weldrake. The name doesn’t look quite right. Would anyone have a minute to have a look and see what they think please? thanks very much Jane

Many thanks to those who have given advice on the above – all very helpful. John Lindley NRY