Re Sarah: A quick check of censuses shows that Thomas and Sarah were living with their son in Durham in 1881 - there is a death registered at Auckland, Durham July quarter 1882. The date of birth on the certificate is 1804. The age she gives on censuses gives a year of 1803. The Arkendale records are at North Yorkshire Archives - keep an eye open for when one of the group members is visiting and offers look-ups. Wendy -----Original Message----- From: CHRISTINE WILLOTT via Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 12:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] brick walls and maternal lines Happy new year everyone. Hoping that at least some of your brick walls will come tumbling down. Roy has posted an interesting comment recently (elsewhere) about maternal lines so I thought I would post something here on mine in the hopes that someone will have some ideas. Me - Christine Mary (nee) BOYES / Mother - Olive Mabel CHATTERTON b. 1914 Ferryhill co. Durham d. 1992 St George's Hospital Tooting / Grandmother - Alice FOSTER b.1876 Pudsey Yks d. 1943 Ferryhill Co Durham / Gt grandmother - Hannah WOODWARD b 1843 Thornton Bridge Helperby Yks d.1920 Bishop Monkton Yks / 2x gt grandmother - Sarah CLARKSON b about 1810 Arkendale Yks d ? / 3x gt grandmother - Elizabeth CLARKSON stuck Sarah Clarkson's birth is in the Arkendale PRs but no relevant entries before this. For the post 1837 births, I have the certificates. Elizabeth Clarkson is the lady from whom I inherit my mt DNA so I would like to try to trace her back a bit further. It is some time since I looked at this line, but it would be interesting to see Elizabeth's origins. Many thanks Chris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with Colin. I don't think that you can always be sure of the mother. A major problem in my family tree concerns a child apparently born in 1858 to a 62 year old father and his 2nd wife aged about 45. The child was born (according to a baptism record) 4 months after they got married. So this is just about possible BUT this child's birth was not registered when all post 1837 births of children from the 1st marriage were registered. AND in the household at the time was a 17 year old daughter who subsequently failed to marry at the usual time. So who was the child's mother? Another case involves my Thornton Dale EVERS family. My ancestor Benjamin shows up on the 1841 census aged 11 months. His supposed mother's age is given as 49. In 1851, Benjamin's age is 11 and his supposed mother is 63. On the face of it, this seems obviously a case where Benjamin must be the illegitimate child of one of the unmarried daughters of the family. However, more than one illegitimate child of these daughters had already been acknowledged so why cover up Benjamin's situation? Definitely a case for DNA, if ever I could find the right people to test and then be able to afford all the testing required to resolve the situation. Regards, Irene

Happy new year everyone. Hoping that at least some of your brick walls will come tumbling down. Roy has posted an interesting comment recently (elsewhere) about maternal lines so I thought I would post something here on mine in the hopes that someone will have some ideas. Me - Christine Mary (nee) BOYES / Mother - Olive Mabel CHATTERTON b. 1914 Ferryhill co. Durham d. 1992 St George's Hospital Tooting / Grandmother - Alice FOSTER b.1876 Pudsey Yks d. 1943 Ferryhill Co Durham / Gt grandmother - Hannah WOODWARD b 1843 Thornton Bridge Helperby Yks d.1920 Bishop Monkton Yks / 2x gt grandmother - Sarah CLARKSON b about 1810 Arkendale Yks d ? / 3x gt grandmother - Elizabeth CLARKSON stuck Sarah Clarkson's birth is in the Arkendale PRs but no relevant entries before this. For the post 1837 births, I have the certificates. Elizabeth Clarkson is the lady from whom I inherit my mt DNA so I would like to try to trace her back a bit further. It is some time since I looked at this line, but it would be interesting to see Elizabeth's origins. Many thanks Chris

Hi everyone Wishing Magdalena a speedy recovery and thanks to Colin for taking it on. However... If you are only confirming whether or not your details are correct please contact Colin directly rather than posting to the list. Thanks Lin Duke List Admin On 30/12/2014 13:10, Colin Hinson via wrote: > Dear all, > Due to Magdalena having been quite ill for the past 6 months, she has asked me to take over the maintenance of the Yorkshire surnames interest list on a temporary basis. She is getting better as time passes. > > I thought that this might be an opportunity to remove various errors in the list, particularly with regard to email addresses. Some of you will have received a similar message to this as I have sent out emails to 2250 email addresses to check if they bounce - 734 of them did! > > The addresses I have so far covered are those beginning with a number, upper case letters A-Z and lower case letters a and b. If you have or had an email address that falls in this range and you have your name on the Yorkshire surnames list and you haven't received an email from me, please check the list at: > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/BounceList.txt > If your email address is on this list, then please contact me to get the problem fixed. > > The main Surnames list index is still at: > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ > and I have added notes where emails are/seem to be bouncing. > > There are eight new submissions: > CORNISH, CAPITER, DUTHOIT, HALSTEAD, > HEWORTH, MURGATROYD, RIDLER, SUNDERLAND > > > Hope you have a happy and prosperous New Year, > > Best wishes, > Colin Hinson > > In the village of Blunham in Bedfordshire U.K. > Webmaster for the Genuki Yorkshire pages: > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > Old and Rare Yorkshire Books on searchable CDroms: > http://www.YorkshireCDbooks.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Seeking any knowledge of families with this name in the 1700s. In 1763, "ANN MADISON", aged 22, married Robert Webster at HULL Holy Trinity. Her father's name is not given in the parish record. I have found the baptism record of a DEBORAH Maddison, 30 Oct 1742 at Hull HT, father GEORGE Maddison, possibly Ann's sister, especially because Ann names her first child Deborah. Maybe her mother was also named Deborah. Apart from this clue I have nothing to go on. Ann proceeded to have 9 more children after Deborah. Bill Webster

So sorry to hear of Magdalena's illness. Sending very best wishes to her that she will be much better very soon. Also wishing you success in maintaining the list. Maureen   From: Colin Hinson via <[email protected]>   Dear all, Due to Magdalena having been quite ill for the past 6 months, she has asked me to take over the maintenance of the Yorkshire surnames interest list on a temporary basis. She is getting better as time passes.

Dear all, Due to Magdalena having been quite ill for the past 6 months, she has asked me to take over the maintenance of the Yorkshire surnames interest list on a temporary basis. She is getting better as time passes. I thought that this might be an opportunity to remove various errors in the list, particularly with regard to email addresses. Some of you will have received a similar message to this as I have sent out emails to 2250 email addresses to check if they bounce - 734 of them did! The addresses I have so far covered are those beginning with a number, upper case letters A-Z and lower case letters a and b. If you have or had an email address that falls in this range and you have your name on the Yorkshire surnames list and you haven't received an email from me, please check the list at: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/BounceList.txt If your email address is on this list, then please contact me to get the problem fixed. The main Surnames list index is still at: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ and I have added notes where emails are/seem to be bouncing. There are eight new submissions: CORNISH, CAPITER, DUTHOIT, HALSTEAD, HEWORTH, MURGATROYD, RIDLER, SUNDERLAND Hope you have a happy and prosperous New Year, Best wishes, Colin Hinson In the village of Blunham in Bedfordshire U.K. Webmaster for the Genuki Yorkshire pages: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ Old and Rare Yorkshire Books on searchable CDroms: http://www.YorkshireCDbooks.com

All is good here at [email protected]! :) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colin Hinson via Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 5:10 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [YORKSGEN] Yorkshire surnames interest list. Dear all, Due to Magdalena having been quite ill for the past 6 months, she has asked me to take over the maintenance of the Yorkshire surnames interest list on a temporary basis. She is getting better as time passes. I thought that this might be an opportunity to remove various errors in the list, particularly with regard to email addresses. Some of you will have received a similar message to this as I have sent out emails to 2250 email addresses to check if they bounce - 734 of them did! The addresses I have so far covered are those beginning with a number, upper case letters A-Z and lower case letters a and b. If you have or had an email address that falls in this range and you have your name on the Yorkshire surnames list and you haven't received an email from me, please check the list at: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/BounceList.txt If your email address is on this list, then please contact me to get the problem fixed. The main Surnames list index is still at: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ and I have added notes where emails are/seem to be bouncing. There are eight new submissions: CORNISH, CAPITER, DUTHOIT, HALSTEAD, HEWORTH, MURGATROYD, RIDLER, SUNDERLAND Hope you have a happy and prosperous New Year, Best wishes, Colin Hinson In the village of Blunham in Bedfordshire U.K. Webmaster for the Genuki Yorkshire pages: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ Old and Rare Yorkshire Books on searchable CDroms: http://www.YorkshireCDbooks.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Colin, Sorry to hear that Magdalena is ill. She has good judgment in choosing you, a well-established historian for Yorkshire. What a good idea to update the mailing list, but so much detail... Blessings on you! Ellen in BC (loved strolling around Grinton in October)! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colin Hinson via Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 5:10 AM Subject: [YORKSGEN] Yorkshire surnames interest list. Dear all, Due to Magdalena having been quite ill for the past 6 months, she has asked me to take over the maintenance of the Yorkshire surnames interest list on a temporary basis. She is getting better as time passes. I thought that this might be an opportunity to remove various errors in the list, particularly with regard to email addresses. Some of you will have received a similar message to this as I have sent out emails to 2250 email addresses to check if they bounce - 734 of them did! The addresses I have so far covered are those beginning with a number, upper case letters A-Z and lower case letters a and b. If you have or had an email address that falls in this range and you have your name on the Yorkshire surnames list and you haven't received an email from me, please check the list at: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/BounceList.txt If your email address is on this list, then please contact me to get the problem fixed. The main Surnames list index is still at: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ and I have added notes where emails are/seem to be bouncing. There are eight new submissions: CORNISH, CAPITER, DUTHOIT, HALSTEAD, HEWORTH, MURGATROYD, RIDLER, SUNDERLAND Hope you have a happy and prosperous New Year, Best wishes, Colin Hinson In the village of Blunham in Bedfordshire U.K. Webmaster for the Genuki Yorkshire pages: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ Old and Rare Yorkshire Books on searchable CDroms: http://www.YorkshireCDbooks.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Glenda Thanks for your research and suggestions. They have certainly made me think further about this puzzle. I know that there was a Henry Trott, a mariner, living in Hull at the time George Mennens Trott was apprenticed in that city, and as it was to a ship owner, I felt they were likely to be father and son and have been trying to prove/disprove this. Henry Trott had 2 other children born before George and they were born in Hull. Maybe Henry & George aren't father & son after all but might be related - uncle/nephew? A puzzle to solve Thanks again Sue On 28 Dec 2014, at 15:28, Ruth Genda wrote: > Hi Sue, > FMP shows a George TROTT (no mention of Mennens) who may be your George. If > he was apprenticed at the likely age of 12 in 1827 he would have been born > c1815. All the Census and other info found for him has a consistent place > of birth as Deal in Kent in 1815. No baptism appears for him in Kent > records, but he may not ever have been baptised. Both Deal and Kingston are > maritime towns and apprenticeships could be given across county borders for > any number of reasons. > Henry TROTT of Hull is shown in Merchant Seamen records for 1835-1845 who > may be George's father. The MONINS name (possibly another spelling of > MENNENS) is found in families in Eastry and Walmer Kent in the last decade > of the 18thC. It's a possibility that Henry TROTT and one of the MONINS > women were the parents (married or unmarried) of George. FMP doesn't show > any marriage anywhere but this is not to say that there is or isn't one. > It's worth exploring both areas I think. Here are the beginnings of what I > found: > > 1841 Census Lower Street Watts Alley, Deal, Eastry, Kent > George Trott 20 mariner > Mary do 20 > George do 1m > 1845 & 1846 Listed in Merchant Navy & Maritime Records showing the > number of voyages Out and In: > George Trott 31 Deal > 1861 Census 76 Beach Street, Deal > George Trott Head Marr 44 Overseas Pilot Kent, Deal > Mary A Marr 39 do > Walmer > (children) Edward 13, Frederick 9, William 7, Dan 5, Arthur 3, Mary A > 1, all born Deal > William Goymer Lodger Un 28 Mariner > 1871 Census 80 Beach Street, Deal, Eastry: > George (Mariner) 55, Mary 52, Arthur 13, Mary A 11, Louisa 7 > 1881 Census 56 Beach Street, Deal: > George (North Sea Pilot) 64, Mary A (wife) 59, Louisa (Dressmaker) > 17, Frederick T (Grandson) 6, Thomas G Langley (Lodger, Paperhanger) 21 > 1883 3rd qr George Trott Death age 67 Eastry, Kent 2A 489 > > Hope this helps > Ruth > >

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Hi Sue, FMP shows a George TROTT (no mention of Mennens) who may be your George. If he was apprenticed at the likely age of 12 in 1827 he would have been born c1815. All the Census and other info found for him has a consistent place of birth as Deal in Kent in 1815. No baptism appears for him in Kent records, but he may not ever have been baptised. Both Deal and Kingston are maritime towns and apprenticeships could be given across county borders for any number of reasons. Henry TROTT of Hull is shown in Merchant Seamen records for 1835-1845 who may be George's father. The MONINS name (possibly another spelling of MENNENS) is found in families in Eastry and Walmer Kent in the last decade of the 18thC. It's a possibility that Henry TROTT and one of the MONINS women were the parents (married or unmarried) of George. FMP doesn't show any marriage anywhere but this is not to say that there is or isn't one. It's worth exploring both areas I think. Here are the beginnings of what I found: 1841 Census Lower Street Watts Alley, Deal, Eastry, Kent George Trott 20 mariner Mary do 20 George do 1m 1845 & 1846 Listed in Merchant Navy & Maritime Records showing the number of voyages Out and In: George Trott 31 Deal 1861 Census 76 Beach Street, Deal George Trott Head Marr 44 Overseas Pilot Kent, Deal Mary A Marr 39 do Walmer (children) Edward 13, Frederick 9, William 7, Dan 5, Arthur 3, Mary A 1, all born Deal William Goymer Lodger Un 28 Mariner 1871 Census 80 Beach Street, Deal, Eastry: George (Mariner) 55, Mary 52, Arthur 13, Mary A 11, Louisa 7 1881 Census 56 Beach Street, Deal: George (North Sea Pilot) 64, Mary A (wife) 59, Louisa (Dressmaker) 17, Frederick T (Grandson) 6, Thomas G Langley (Lodger, Paperhanger) 21 1883 3rd qr George Trott Death age 67 Eastry, Kent 2A 489 Hope this helps Ruth

A sequel to the previous message ... Divorce There is very limited information available about Lady Mordaunt’s life between 1871 and her death in 1906. After various legal appeals, including to the House of Lords (in the judicial capacity that it exercised then), Sir Charles Mordaunt’s petition for divorce was remitted to the original court on the basis that Lady Mordaunt’s insanity was not, as a matter of law, a bar to proceedings. Eventually, in 1875, Sir Charles was granted a divorce on the grounds of his wife’s adultery with Lord Cole, who did not contest the action. In 1878 Sir Charles married Mary Louisa Cholmondeley, the daughter of a parson. Cecilia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maureen Ellen via Sent: 28 December 2014 12:52 To: Yorksgen Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Dissolution of a marriage to someone who was a long term inmate of an Asylum People Cecilia very kindly sent the link below for me. At first we read it that divorce was allowed because of lunacy but then when we re read it decided that divorce couldn't be granted because of lunacy unless the marriage had not been consummated. Because of where the commas are I am now wondering if it does mean that the marriage could be dissolved on the grounds as follows: 1. If the marriage were not consummated within two years, for impotence, frigidity or lunacy, or if the marriage could be shown to be incestuous or bigamous, or carried out by force or in error, or, before 1753, if one of the parties lacked age and consent. Or should we be reading it as: 1. If the marriage were not consummated within two years.2. For impotence.3. For frigidity.4 For lunacy. 5 and so on. Help would be appreciated.Many thanks,MaureenFrom: Cecilia Bell <[email protected]> To: 'Maureen Ellen' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2014, 22:30 Subject: RE: [YORKSGEN] Disolution of a marriage to someone who was a long term inmate of an Asylum Hi Maureen, >From the Family search web-site: https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Divorce_in_England_and_Wales Divorce from the chain or bond of matrimony (a vincula matrimonii) which declared invalid the marriage itself and thus allowed either party to remarry. It could be granted if the marriage were not consummated within two years, for impotence, frigidity or lunacy, or if the marriage could be shown to be incestuous or bigamous, or carried out by force or in error, or, before 1753, if one of the parties lacked age and consent. These were ripe fields for argument and appeal if property was involved. Presumably the husband being in an asylum is the same as lunacy. Regards, Cecilia Bell in Essex UK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

It is a very interesting conundrum that you raise. ISTR a film in which this very situation crops up. Isn’t this the same situation as appears in the Charlotte Bronte novel Jane Eyre? Mr Rochester tries to cover up the fact that he has an insane wife because he wants to marry Jane. The law does not allow it at that time. I have just found these details of a celebrated case in which the wife was found to have mental illness, so the petition for divorce was thrown out! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Mordaunt Cecilia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maureen Ellen via Sent: 28 December 2014 12:52 To: Yorksgen Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Dissolution of a marriage to someone who was a long term inmate of an Asylum People Cecilia very kindly sent the link below for me. At first we read it that divorce was allowed because of lunacy but then when we re read it decided that divorce couldn't be granted because of lunacy unless the marriage had not been consummated. Because of where the commas are I am now wondering if it does mean that the marriage could be dissolved on the grounds as follows: 1. If the marriage were not consummated within two years, for impotence, frigidity or lunacy, or if the marriage could be shown to be incestuous or bigamous, or carried out by force or in error, or, before 1753, if one of the parties lacked age and consent. Or should we be reading it as: 1. If the marriage were not consummated within two years.2. For impotence.3. For frigidity.4 For lunacy. 5 and so on. Help would be appreciated.Many thanks,MaureenFrom: Cecilia Bell <[email protected]> To: 'Maureen Ellen' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2014, 22:30 Subject: RE: [YORKSGEN] Disolution of a marriage to someone who was a long term inmate of an Asylum Hi Maureen, >From the Family search web-site: https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Divorce_in_England_and_Wales Divorce from the chain or bond of matrimony (a vincula matrimonii) which declared invalid the marriage itself and thus allowed either party to remarry. It could be granted if the marriage were not consummated within two years, for impotence, frigidity or lunacy, or if the marriage could be shown to be incestuous or bigamous, or carried out by force or in error, or, before 1753, if one of the parties lacked age and consent. These were ripe fields for argument and appeal if property was involved. Presumably the husband being in an asylum is the same as lunacy. Regards, Cecilia Bell in Essex UK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

 Cecilia very kindly sent the link below for me. At first we read it that divorce was allowed because of lunacy but then when we re read it decided that divorce couldn't be granted because of lunacy unless the marriage had not been consummated. Because of where the commas are I am now wondering if it does mean that the marriage could be dissolved on the grounds as follows: 1.   If the marriage were not consummated within two years, for impotence, frigidity or lunacy, or if the marriage could be shown to be incestuous or bigamous, or carried out by force or in error, or, before 1753, if one of the parties lacked age and consent.  Or should we be reading it as: 1.  If the marriage were not consummated within two years.2.  For impotence.3.  For frigidity.4   For lunacy. 5   and so on.   Help would be appreciated.Many thanks,MaureenFrom: Cecilia Bell <[email protected]> To: 'Maureen Ellen' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2014, 22:30 Subject: RE: [YORKSGEN] Disolution of a marriage to someone who was a long term inmate of an Asylum Hi Maureen, >From the Family search web-site: https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Divorce_in_England_and_Wales Divorce from the chain or bond of matrimony (a vincula matrimonii) which declared invalid the marriage itself and thus allowed either party to remarry. It could be granted if the marriage were not consummated within two years, for impotence, frigidity or lunacy, or if the marriage could be shown to be incestuous or bigamous, or carried out by force or in error, or, before 1753, if one of the parties lacked age and consent. These were ripe fields for argument and appeal if property was involved. Presumably the husband being in an asylum is the same as lunacy. Regards, Cecilia Bell in Essex UK

Hi everyone I have the following record from the 'registration of persons bound apprentice to freeman' found on the Hull History Centre website in February this year: TROTT to Collinson No. 856 William Collinson, ship owner as(?) Burgets the fifth day of February of 1827 produced and showed an Indenture dated the third day of th same month whereby it appears that George Mennens TROTT son of Henry Trott of the Town and County of the Town of Kingston upon Hull is bound apprentice to the said William Collinson for seven years from the date of the said Indenture. The witnesses are Tho. Thompson and T.B. Ayres Despite searching various records (parish, census, marriage, death etc) I haven't been able to find out anything further about George Mennens TROTT and would love to find out where & when he was born, plus anything further about his life. If anyone could shed any light on this person or suggest where else I might look I'd be very grateful Thanks Sue

Hi June, Adoption first became legal in England and Wales in 1926. In Northern Ireland in 1929 and in Scotland in 1930. There were, however, informal arrangements between organisations and sometimes directly between the birth mother and the adoptive parents. ( I looked on "google.co.uk" to check.) There was an adoption in our family around 1914 which understand was within the family, and I had no problem getting certs showing the different surnames. Lorna (Kay) Tokoroa NZ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hi Maureen, I just re-read what I sent you. If the marriage had already been consummated then then marriage could not be dissolved due to lunacy ... only in the case of a non-consummation. When did the marriage take place? Regards, Cecilia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maureen Ellen via Sent: 27 December 2014 14:13 To: Yorksgen Subject: [YORKSGEN] Disolution of a marriage to someone who was a long term inmate of an Asylum A married man was admitted to an Asylum in 1897. By 1906 his condition was described as chronic. I believe that he remained there until his death at the Asylum in 1911. His wife had remarried by 1900. Someone has told me that because her husband had been committed to the asylum she could legally remarry. Can anyone confirm that this is correct or did she commit bigamy by remarrying during her husband's lifetime? Advice would be appreciated. Thanks,Maureen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hi Maureen, >From the Family search web-site: https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Divorce_in_England_and_Wales Divorce from the chain or bond of matrimony (a vincula matrimonii) which declared invalid the marriage itself and thus allowed either party to remarry. It could be granted if the marriage were not consummated within two years, for impotence, frigidity or lunacy, or if the marriage could be shown to be incestuous or bigamous, or carried out by force or in error, or, before 1753, if one of the parties lacked age and consent. These were ripe fields for argument and appeal if property was involved. Presumably the husband being in an asylum is the same as lunacy. Regards, Cecilia Bell in Essex UK -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maureen Ellen via Sent: 27 December 2014 14:13 To: Yorksgen Subject: [YORKSGEN] Disolution of a marriage to someone who was a long term inmate of an Asylum A married man was admitted to an Asylum in 1897. By 1906 his condition was described as chronic. I believe that he remained there until his death at the Asylum in 1911. His wife had remarried by 1900. Someone has told me that because her husband had been committed to the asylum she could legally remarry. Can anyone confirm that this is correct or did she commit bigamy by remarrying during her husband's lifetime? Advice would be appreciated. Thanks,Maureen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

A married man was admitted to an Asylum in 1897. By 1906 his condition was described as chronic. I believe that he remained there until his death at the Asylum in 1911. His wife had remarried by 1900. Someone has told me that because her husband had been committed to the asylum she could legally remarry. Can anyone confirm that this is correct or did she commit bigamy by remarrying during her husband's lifetime? Advice would be appreciated. Thanks,Maureen