Hi Lin, Thanks for the nudge. I have a couple of brick walls, one is finding where my gr-gr-grandfather, David Naylor, was during the 1851 census. His wife, Elizabeth, was at her parents home in Broughton, parish of Appleton-le-Street, North Yorkshire, with their 3 mo. old daughter, Hannah. Her occupation is listed as blacksmith's wife. Hannah was born in the city of York so I am assuming that is where their actual place of residence was and that she was visiting her parents at the time of the census. Could it be possible David was at his place of employment when the census was taken or an apprentice under someone else, or maybe even shoeing a horse at someone's farm, or some other scenerio? One other quick question. What was the age of majority for marriage in 1840? Was it 25? My other gr-gr-grandmother was listed as a minor at her first marriage in 1840 but gave her age as 38 at her second marriage in 1854. Thank you for any help. Marjorie In frigid Vermont, USA Sent from my iPad > On Feb 3, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Lin via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Right folks, > > Most of the Yorksgen mail I'm getting at the moment are ones which need > Administrator authorisation. As they seem to be inviting me to have > 'discussions' with Russian brides they are getting unceremoniously > binned.:-) > > So.... to save my sanity.... > > please could you all take a moment to post at least one of your 'brick > walls' (or anything else relevant to Yorkshire genealogy/family history). > > Thanking you in advance. > > Lin Duke > Yorksgen List Admin > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to find something about my 4th-Great Grandparents. My 3rd-Great Grandfather was Benjamin POUNDER, he was born in Middleton Tyas in 1772 and died in Kirkbymoorside in 1809. Some other members of the family went to KMS but I don't know if the whole family did and whether his parents did. All I know is that they were John and Elizabeth POUNDER and they had a number of children in Middleton Tyas but do not appear to have been born there, married there or buried there. My Great Grandfather, his brother and father all worked with wood as either carpenters of cabinet makers so I don't know if the trade goes back further in the family. Descendants of John POUNDER --------------------------- 1-John POUNDER b. Bef 1770, d. After 1785 +Elizabeth b. Bef 1770, m. Bef 1770, d. After 1785 |-----2-Thomas POUNDER b. Bef 11 Mar 1770, Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England |-----2-Benjamin POUNDER b. Bef 19 Apr 1772, Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, | England, d. 30 Mar 1809, Kirkbymoorside, North Riding, Yorkshire |-----2-Elizabeth POUNDER b. Bef 3 Jul 1774, Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England |-----2-Joseph POUNDER b. Bef 9 Feb 1777, Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England, | d. Bef 11 Dec 1778, Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England |-----2-Jane POUNDER b. Bef 9 Apr 1780, Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England |-----2-Anne POUNDER b. Bef 24 Nov 1782, Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England |-----2-Isabel POUNDER b. Bef 6 Nov 1785, Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England --------------------------- The only one of Benjamin POUNDER's siblings who I have found in the Middleton Tyas's record is his elder brother who fathered an illegitimate child. Descendants of Thomas POUNDER ----------------------------- 1-Thomas POUNDER b. Bef 11 Mar 1770, Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England +Sarah TOWINSON b. Bef 24 Mar 1771, Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England, par. Joseph TOWINSON and Mary GARDESS |-----2-John POUNDER b. Bef 17 Dec 1792, Middleton Tyas, Yorkshire, England ----------------------------- I know nothing about any of the rest but if John & Elizabeth who I would like to know more about - where they came from, where they married and where they died. Martin Briscoe Fort William [email protected]

At Lin's request am posting my brick wall. My 2*grt grandfather is a Christopher Gatenby born about 1808. Not been able to confirm a birth or father. His marriage certificate in 1844 to Mary Ann Robinson has no father’s name and both ‘off full age’. He could be the Christopher born 1806 in Well. Or he could be an illegitimate birth in 1808 in Carlton Miniott where he lived all his life. However this illegitimate birth is of a Robert Gatenby. How feasible that Robert could then be called Christopher? Mark Mark Gatenby in Middlesbrough UK [email protected] The Gatenby’s of Yorkshire www.gatenby.org <http://www.gatenby.org/>.uk > On 3 Feb 2015, at 20:30, Lin via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Right folks, > > Most of the Yorksgen mail I'm getting at the moment are ones which need > Administrator authorisation. As they seem to be inviting me to have > 'discussions' with Russian brides they are getting unceremoniously > binned.:-) > > So.... to save my sanity.... > > please could you all take a moment to post at least one of your 'brick > walls' (or anything else relevant to Yorkshire genealogy/family history). > > Thanking you in advance. > > Lin Duke > Yorksgen List Admin > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning all.  At Lin's request I am posting a fairly new brick wall - actaally at the moment it's more of very high hurdle...... I have a Francis MONKMAN marrying an Ann DICKINSON in the parish of Routh (East Yorks) on19 April 1788.  The entry states Francis was "of Bridlington" and Ann "of this parish.I've ordered the Routh film in BTs in and so far have been unable to find either baptism entry though I've made great progress with children, marriages, burials etc.I know Francis died in Hull (Sculcoates 2nd q 1860) but haven't got a death/burial for Ann yet. Is anyone is research either of the above names It'd be great to hear from you. Have a great day.ttfnTrishEx Hull lass on central coast of NSW.

Hi Trish, Could this be your chap?- Bridlington Baptisms/marriages Francis Monkman mentioned in the record of Francis Monkman and Ann Dickinson Name: Francis Monkman Birth Date: 1762 Age: 26 Spouse's Name: Ann Dickinson Spouse's Birth Date: 1765 Spouse's Age: 23 Event Date: 16 Apr 1788 Event Place: Bridlington, York, England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03812-0 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1469902 Perhaps married in Brid but either remarried in Routh or just banns read there a couple of days later?? Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trish Michael via" <[email protected]> To: "Yorksgen" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 5:00 PM Subject: [YORKSGEN] Fairly new brick wall - MONKMAN married DICKINSON > Morning all. At Lin's request I am posting a fairly new brick wall - > actaally at the moment it's more of very high hurdle...... > > I have a Francis MONKMAN marrying an Ann DICKINSON in the parish of Routh > (East Yorks) on19 April 1788. The entry states Francis was "of > Bridlington" and Ann "of this parish.I've ordered the Routh film in BTs in > and so far have been unable to find either baptism entry though I've made > great progress with children, marriages, burials etc.I know Francis died > in Hull (Sculcoates 2nd q 1860) but haven't got a death/burial for Ann > yet. > > Is anyone is research either of the above names It'd be great to hear from > you. > Have a great day.ttfnTrishEx Hull lass on central coast of NSW.

Right folks, Most of the Yorksgen mail I'm getting at the moment are ones which need Administrator authorisation. As they seem to be inviting me to have 'discussions' with Russian brides they are getting unceremoniously binned.:-) So.... to save my sanity.... please could you all take a moment to post at least one of your 'brick walls' (or anything else relevant to Yorkshire genealogy/family history). Thanking you in advance. Lin Duke Yorksgen List Admin

I am looking for any information about John Webster's marriage, death or burial, or the birth of a daughter. He was born at Oldstead in Kilburn parish and bap. at Kilburn 7 Aug 1777. His parents were William Webster and Elizabeth Day. They moved from OldStead to Cold Kirby about 1778. A family story told by John's brother Thomas, who emigrated to Canada in 1822, to his daughter, tells us "His brother John worked for a farmer and received high wages. He died leaving only one daughter." A letter written by William in1801 to William's brother John in Maine, USA, is quoted with original spelling, in a book by Benjamin Webster, John's grandson. In part, it reads: "John my Eldest Son he is forman With One of Our Leeding farmers he is not with the Same master that he wass With Last year But he is With his Last masters Brother for thay Wowld not part With him he is Yong Sound & Strong. & he is very Cairful of his mone & Can Go throu his Bisenis in plowing Sowing mowing hedging Ditching Stacking Both Corn & hay that if Sutch A thing Should fole out I hope you Will find him a plase With Sum Gentleman farmer prette Near you for thay ar Detarmined to Go by Your Derections." It would seem from the above that John was considering emigrating to the USA, but did not. The book can be read at: https://archive.org/details/autobiographyofc00websrich I have checked the old IGI with no luck.. My subscription is to Ancestry.ca and it doesn't cover the UK. Any leads appreciated. Regards, Charlie Hansen Calgary, Canada

Hi Barrie Yes, David Tippey was a lovely man and a fine genealogist. My wife and I once spent a day with him at KM and he was an excellent host. Didn't he once run a pub there? He also designed some gates on the church. If you look at the Kirkby Malham website to which you refer you should find an article of mine there reproduced from Your Family Tree about whether one of my Shackleton ancestors may have met Oliver Cromwell! The link is: http://www.kirkbymalham.info/KMI/malhamdale/yft29_cromwell.pdf Best wishes Roy From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barrie Sharples Sent: 01 February 2015 14:14 To: Roy Stockdill; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Researching at Kirkby Malham Hi Roy, Kirby Malham - "beautiful place in the Dales" quite agree with you, my wife and I were there yesterday. I first visited there as a twelve year old, on a lady's bicycle, and I have been in love with the area ever since. Malhamdale - Headaches, yes quite agree, in genealogy they do always seem to go together. The late, sadly missed, David Tippey was a great assistance to me with some of my Tempest's. He was the first to alert me to the 'missing' P.R.'s and to the fact that ("He had purchased, at great expense") the B.T.'s from the Borthwick,and that he was confident that the missing entries could now all be accounted for. However, you are quite correct, errors/mistrans abound in all the records. If any lister is new to researching in this area, it is important to see what's available at: http://www.kirkbymalham.info/KMI/genealogysearch.html Bracwell/Bowker certainly cropped up in my research but only the latter has any links to my Tempest (Hannah Bowker 1776 - 1853 was my x3 Gt Gran) Regards Barrie North Yorkshire On 31 January 2015 at 15:08, Roy Stockdill via <[email protected]> wrote: Just spent a frustrating morning trying to sort out my BRACEWELL/BRAISWELL ancestors at Kirkby Malham! I wonder if anyone else on Yorksgen is researching in this parish? It's a truly beautiful place in the Dales, but It really is the most frustrating and difficult parish to research for the following reason..... The original registers were stolen from the church by thieves in the 1970s, possibly because they were thought to contain two signatures of Oliver Cromwell in the 1650s, though it may just have been a chance theft. Anyway, they have never been found. There are other sources available, however. The Yorkshire Parish Register Society published in 1938 a printed transcription and index to the registers from 1597 to 1690 and the Rev. E. Cookson prepared before the First World War a transcript index of the period from 1690 to 1812/1813. Most of the Bishop's Transcripts (copies of the records) have survived and are at the Borthwick Institute in York. These are on the IGI on the FamilySearch website and have fairly recently also been put on the Findmypast website. Yet another source I have is a CD produced by the Wharfedale FHS in 2010 which made an excellent attempt to re-created the original registers of births and baptisms from 1691 to 1813, marriages from 1690-1812 and burials from 1692-1812, using the Cookson index. Adequate, you might think? Well, yes, as far as it goes, but I found a number of problems, specifically..... 1) Not all the sources seem to agree on dates for every record. 2) Some entries are in the re-created Cookson index but not the BTs and vice-versa. 3) On the Wharfedale FHS CD the early entries from 1 January to 24 March before the calendar changes of 1752 appear to have been "corrected" to New Style, while on the BTs now online at Findmypast they are in Old Style! To give an example, a William Bracewell, son of Jonathan, is shown on the CD as being baptised on 9 January 1704 but in the BTs at Findmypast the baptism appears as 9 January 1703. (For those who may not know what I am talking about, before the 1752 calendar changes the year ran from 25 March to 24 March, thus parish register entries in January, February and most of March were recorded as having taken place in the previous year; the date for William Bracewell's baptism should normally be written as 9 January 1703/4, however when this style has not been followed it can sometimes be difficult to know which year is being referred to). 4) Mistranscriptions! The marriage of my 5-x-great grandfather Nicholas Braiswell (or Bracewell) to Dorothy Bowker took place on Christmas Day 1747 and it is recorded correctly on the Wharfedale CD as Braiswell (Bracewell) but in the BTs at FMP he has been transcribed as BRADWELL, though the image clearly says Braiswell. Further, the IGI at FamilySearch gives the date of the marriage as 25 December 1741 - a contributed record with the 7 mistranscribed as a 1. 5) Nicholas looks likely to have been born in the 1720s and the re-constructed registers on the Wharfedale CD have a Nicholas Bracewell, son of David, baptised on 17 March 1723. However, on checking the BTs at Findmypast and looking at the image this showed that David Bracewell's son baptised on 17 March 1722/3 was not Nicholas but Richard! Furthermore, the Wharfedale CD has a Nicholas Bracewell buried on 17 March 1722 but no Nicholas appears in the BTs as being buried in the 1720s. Normally, I would accept the original registers over the BTs, but in this case where the "originals" are not the originals but a re-created and rebuilt transcript index, I must prefer to take the evidence of the BTs, otherwise who was my ancestor who married in 1747? I have been in this genealogy business for over 40 years but there are times when my head hurts! Researching the registers and BTs of Kirkby Malham is one of them. Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer and lecturer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Roy, Kirby Malham - "beautiful place in the Dales" quite agree with you, my wife and I were there yesterday. I first visited there as a twelve year old, on a lady's bicycle, and I have been in love with the area ever since. Malhamdale - Headaches, yes quite agree, in genealogy they do always seem to go together. The late, sadly missed, David Tippey was a great assistance to me with some of my Tempest's. He was the first to alert me to the 'missing' P.R.'s and to the fact that ("He had purchased, at great expense") the B.T.'s from the Borthwick,and that he was confident that the missing entries could now all be accounted for. However, you are quite correct, errors/mistrans abound in all the records. If any lister is new to researching in this area, it is important to see what's available at: http://www.kirkbymalham.info/KMI/genealogysearch.html Bracwell/Bowker certainly cropped up in my research but only the latter has any links to my Tempest (Hannah Bowker 1776 - 1853 was my x3 Gt Gran) Regards Barrie North Yorkshire On 31 January 2015 at 15:08, Roy Stockdill via <[email protected]> wrote: > Just spent a frustrating morning trying to sort out my BRACEWELL/BRAISWELL > ancestors at Kirkby Malham! I wonder if anyone else on Yorksgen is > researching in this parish? It's a truly beautiful place in the Dales, but > It really is the most frustrating and difficult parish to research for the > following reason..... > > The original registers were stolen from the church by thieves in the 1970s, > possibly because they were thought to contain two signatures of Oliver > Cromwell in the 1650s, though it may just have been a chance theft. Anyway, > they have never been found. There are other sources available, however. The > Yorkshire Parish Register Society published in 1938 a printed transcription > and index to the registers from 1597 to 1690 and the Rev. E. Cookson > prepared before the First World War a transcript index of the period from > 1690 to 1812/1813. Most of the Bishop's Transcripts (copies of the records) > have survived and are at the Borthwick Institute in York. These are on the > IGI on the FamilySearch website and have fairly recently also been put on > the Findmypast website. Yet another source I have is a CD produced by the > Wharfedale FHS in 2010 which made an excellent attempt to re-created the > original registers of births and baptisms from 1691 to 1813, marriages from > 1690-1812 and burials from 1692-1812, using the Cookson index. > > Adequate, you might think? Well, yes, as far as it goes, but I found a > number of problems, specifically..... > > 1) Not all the sources seem to agree on dates for every record. > > 2) Some entries are in the re-created Cookson index but not the BTs and > vice-versa. > > 3) On the Wharfedale FHS CD the early entries from 1 January to 24 March > before the calendar changes of 1752 appear to have been "corrected" to New > Style, while on the BTs now online at Findmypast they are in Old Style! To > give an example, a William Bracewell, son of Jonathan, is shown on the CD > as > being baptised on 9 January 1704 but in the BTs at Findmypast the baptism > appears as 9 January 1703. (For those who may not know what I am talking > about, before the 1752 calendar changes the year ran from 25 March to 24 > March, thus parish register entries in January, February and most of March > were recorded as having taken place in the previous year; the date for > William Bracewell's baptism should normally be written as 9 January 1703/4, > however when this style has not been followed it can sometimes be difficult > to know which year is being referred to). > > 4) Mistranscriptions! The marriage of my 5-x-great grandfather Nicholas > Braiswell (or Bracewell) to Dorothy Bowker took place on Christmas Day 1747 > and it is recorded correctly on the Wharfedale CD as Braiswell (Bracewell) > but in the BTs at FMP he has been transcribed as BRADWELL, though the image > clearly says Braiswell. Further, the IGI at FamilySearch gives the date of > the marriage as 25 December 1741 - a contributed record with the 7 > mistranscribed as a 1. > > 5) Nicholas looks likely to have been born in the 1720s and the > re-constructed registers on the Wharfedale CD have a Nicholas Bracewell, > son > of David, baptised on 17 March 1723. However, on checking the BTs at > Findmypast and looking at the image this showed that David Bracewell's son > baptised on 17 March 1722/3 was not Nicholas but Richard! Furthermore, the > Wharfedale CD has a Nicholas Bracewell buried on 17 March 1722 but no > Nicholas appears in the BTs as being buried in the 1720s. Normally, I would > accept the original registers over the BTs, but in this case where the > "originals" are not the originals but a re-created and rebuilt transcript > index, I must prefer to take the evidence of the BTs, otherwise who was my > ancestor who married in 1747? > > I have been in this genealogy business for over 40 years but there are > times > when my head hurts! Researching the registers and BTs of Kirkby Malham is > one of them. > > Roy Stockdill > > Professional genealogical researcher, writer and lecturer > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just spent a frustrating morning trying to sort out my BRACEWELL/BRAISWELL ancestors at Kirkby Malham! I wonder if anyone else on Yorksgen is researching in this parish? It's a truly beautiful place in the Dales, but It really is the most frustrating and difficult parish to research for the following reason..... The original registers were stolen from the church by thieves in the 1970s, possibly because they were thought to contain two signatures of Oliver Cromwell in the 1650s, though it may just have been a chance theft. Anyway, they have never been found. There are other sources available, however. The Yorkshire Parish Register Society published in 1938 a printed transcription and index to the registers from 1597 to 1690 and the Rev. E. Cookson prepared before the First World War a transcript index of the period from 1690 to 1812/1813. Most of the Bishop's Transcripts (copies of the records) have survived and are at the Borthwick Institute in York. These are on the IGI on the FamilySearch website and have fairly recently also been put on the Findmypast website. Yet another source I have is a CD produced by the Wharfedale FHS in 2010 which made an excellent attempt to re-created the original registers of births and baptisms from 1691 to 1813, marriages from 1690-1812 and burials from 1692-1812, using the Cookson index. Adequate, you might think? Well, yes, as far as it goes, but I found a number of problems, specifically..... 1) Not all the sources seem to agree on dates for every record. 2) Some entries are in the re-created Cookson index but not the BTs and vice-versa. 3) On the Wharfedale FHS CD the early entries from 1 January to 24 March before the calendar changes of 1752 appear to have been "corrected" to New Style, while on the BTs now online at Findmypast they are in Old Style! To give an example, a William Bracewell, son of Jonathan, is shown on the CD as being baptised on 9 January 1704 but in the BTs at Findmypast the baptism appears as 9 January 1703. (For those who may not know what I am talking about, before the 1752 calendar changes the year ran from 25 March to 24 March, thus parish register entries in January, February and most of March were recorded as having taken place in the previous year; the date for William Bracewell's baptism should normally be written as 9 January 1703/4, however when this style has not been followed it can sometimes be difficult to know which year is being referred to). 4) Mistranscriptions! The marriage of my 5-x-great grandfather Nicholas Braiswell (or Bracewell) to Dorothy Bowker took place on Christmas Day 1747 and it is recorded correctly on the Wharfedale CD as Braiswell (Bracewell) but in the BTs at FMP he has been transcribed as BRADWELL, though the image clearly says Braiswell. Further, the IGI at FamilySearch gives the date of the marriage as 25 December 1741 - a contributed record with the 7 mistranscribed as a 1. 5) Nicholas looks likely to have been born in the 1720s and the re-constructed registers on the Wharfedale CD have a Nicholas Bracewell, son of David, baptised on 17 March 1723. However, on checking the BTs at Findmypast and looking at the image this showed that David Bracewell's son baptised on 17 March 1722/3 was not Nicholas but Richard! Furthermore, the Wharfedale CD has a Nicholas Bracewell buried on 17 March 1722 but no Nicholas appears in the BTs as being buried in the 1720s. Normally, I would accept the original registers over the BTs, but in this case where the "originals" are not the originals but a re-created and rebuilt transcript index, I must prefer to take the evidence of the BTs, otherwise who was my ancestor who married in 1747? I have been in this genealogy business for over 40 years but there are times when my head hurts! Researching the registers and BTs of Kirkby Malham is one of them. Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer and lecturer

John Is it possible that Walter and Theresa ever married? I found this marriage: 1919 Albert BROAD to Theresa CLEGG Jun Q 1919 Barnsley children with maiden name of mother CLEGG: 1921 Mary A BROAD reg Jun Q Barnsley 1928 Betty BROAD reg Jun Q Barnsley 1932 William BROAD reg Jun Q Barnsley 1935 Margaret BROAD reg Jun Q Barnsley 1932 William DAVIS reg Jun Q Barnsley 1935 Margaret DAVIS reg Jun Q Barnsley (these names are the same as you state in your post but couldn't find a Ronald) As you can see William and Margaret were registered with both the surname of DAVIS and BROAD Theresa CLEGG b 1897 Worsborough, Yorkshire Theresa BROAD b 1897 death reg Mar Q 1953 Staincross, Yorkshire an Albert BROAD married Mar Q 1953 to Alice SYKES Hope this helps. Lin On 29/01/2015 15:29, John Lindley via wrote: > Hi List > Can you please help. I am trying to trace the marriage of a Walter Davis > in the Barnsley area in about the 1920's. Walter was born in 1904 at > Denaby and I think his wife's first name was Theresa. > He had several children, Mary, Betty, Margaret, Ronald and William, > known as Bill. > Walter died in 1988 October and his death notice is in the Barnsley > Chronicle for that date. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Many thanks > > Regards John Lindley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List Can you please help. I am trying to trace the marriage of a Walter Davis in the Barnsley area in about the 1920's. Walter was born in 1904 at Denaby and I think his wife's first name was Theresa. He had several children, Mary, Betty, Margaret, Ronald and William, known as Bill. Walter died in 1988 October and his death notice is in the Barnsley Chronicle for that date. Any help would be appreciated. Many thanks Regards John Lindley

Hi everyone Just a gentle reminder .... If you get your posts in DIGEST mode and simply hit reply, you are sending your response plus ALL the digest responses again to the list which over time makes reading the posts confusing. Please take a moment when you reply to change the subject from *Digest Vol xxx etc* to the subject matter you are replying to and also trim your post so that it only includes enough of the original message to make sense of your reply. That way everyone can follow a thread they are interested in or delete it if they aren't. Many thanks Lin Duke List Admin

>From Mary Palmer ( YAS Sales Officer) There have been quite a lot of postings about the Yorkshire Dade registers recently. I thought it might be helpful to members of the list to remind you of the Yorkshire Parish Registers website where about a dozen of these can still be purchased on-line. We still have Acomb, Braithwell, Heslington, Owston, Riccall, Scruton, York St. Mary Castlegate and York St. Olave in printed book format. Giggleswick is now on CD and Saxton and others may be found in the microfiche section. If you haven’t looked at our site for some time you will be surprised to learn that many of these are available from as little as £5 plus postage. We have produced a lot of CDs of the North Western part of Yorkshire recently including Long Preston. We have suffered a loss of demand because of the activities of Ancestry and of Find My Past so our recently produced register of Stainburn, including the CD of Records for Kirkby Overblow, Volume 180, is to be our last printed volume. All our recent registers from the mid-1950s also include BTs where these differ or supplement the parish registers. We are hoping to continue to produce CDs and we will be publishing the records of Egton near Scarborough at Easter. The website is www.yorkshireparishregisters.com

So good - they named two places after it (whatever it was!) Scalby Yorkshire East Riding 1837 1935 Abolished 1.4.1935 to become parts of the parishes of Gilberdyke, Leconfield, and Newport Jane -----Original Message----- From: Rod Moulding Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:23 PM To: JANE WOODALL ; Pam Thorley ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 26 Hi Jane - There may be a Scalby near Howden, but the Scalby where I went to school is just outside Scarborough. Rod -----Original Message----- From: JANE WOODALL via Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 6:05 PM To: Pam Thorley ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 26 "THORPE HALL, a farm-house in the township and parish of Selby; 2 miles W. of Selby, 9 from Ferrybridge Hi Bill I looked at Genuki and this came up - may have been known locally as Castle Thorpe. I don't think a journalist in Hull would mix up Scawby and Selby to be honest - there's a big, wide river between Hull and Lincolnshire, so in Hull Lincs seems quite remote, and same if you're on the other side. Scalby is in Yorkshire, near Howden. Hope that helps Jane Chasing W(h)eldrake/drick - any variation, anywhere, anytime. On 28 January 2015 at 15:53, Pam Thorley via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > re. Message 4. Selby Yorks > > Dear Bill,May help - I have been confused a few times by a place named > Scalby, when looking for some Selbyfamily members. Don't know where Scalby > is, but it may be relevant. > PamIn sunny Queensland > > > > 4. Selby Yorks - Scawby N Lincs (Bill Webster) > > > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:46:03 +1100 > > From: "Bill Webster" <[email protected]> > > Subject: [YORKSGEN] Selby Yorks - Scawby N Lincs > > To: <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Recent posts mentioning Selby have prompted me to reprise a query I put > here > > a year ago, which many tried to help with, thank you, including the > > Selby > > FHS. It concerned this entry in the Hull Packet & Advertiser of 13 Dec > > 1808. > > > > MARRIAGES > > On Tuesday last, at Thornton, by the Reverend Mr Mackerith, Mr. CLARK, > > of > > Castlethorp, near Selby, to Miss WEBSTER, daughter of the late Reverend > > Robert Webster, Rector of Thorpebasset, and Curate of the Holy Trinity > > Church at this place (Hull). (My capitals and brackets.) > > > > I do not know these areas at all. But I have just done a search at the > OS > > Getamap site for "Castlethorp" and one of two options is for a village > and > > farm named Castlethorpe, near SCAWBY, just west outside of Brigg in > > North > > Lincolnshire. > > > > Does anyone think it may have been possible for the Hull Packet compiler > of > > local news to have mistaken Scawby for Selby, Selby being much the > > better > > known? > > > > The Hull newspaper also could have been rehashing an entry in another > paper > > from closer to Thornton (Dale) where the marriage took place, but I have > not > > found such other newspaper entry. Such other paper may not have known > its > > Selby from its Scawby. > > > > Clark is such a difficult name to research because there are just so > > many > > hits. But I will have to try to find an association of the name Clark > with > > Castlethorpe in N Lincs. And I have no idea why this couple married in > the > > north of the Vale of Pickering. The bride was aged about 31 having been > > born in Hull in 1777. Perhaps by 1808 she was employed and therefore > lived > > near Thornton. > > > > Bill Webster > > New South Wales > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the YORKSGEN list administrator, send an email to > > [email protected] > > > > To post a message to the YORKSGEN mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 26 > > **************************************** > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

​ First thought - allowing for local accents -was Camblesforth Nr Selby. Jean On 28 January 2015 at 00:46, Bill Webster via <[email protected]> wrote: > Recent posts mentioning Selby have prompted me to reprise a query I put > here > a year ago, which many tried to help with, thank you, including the Selby > FHS. It concerned this entry in the Hull Packet & Advertiser of 13 Dec > 1808. > > MARRIAGES > On Tuesday last, at Thornton, by the Reverend Mr Mackerith, Mr. CLARK, of > Castlethorp, near Selby, to Miss WEBSTER, daughter of the late Reverend > Robert Webster, Rector of Thorpebasset, and Curate of the Holy Trinity > Church at this place (Hull). (My capitals and brackets.) > > I do not know these areas at all. But I have just done a search at the OS > Getamap site for "Castlethorp" and one of two options is for a village and > farm named Castlethorpe, near SCAWBY, just west outside of Brigg in North > Lincolnshire. > > Does anyone think it may have been possible for the Hull Packet compiler of > local news to have mistaken Scawby for Selby, Selby being much the better > known? > > The Hull newspaper also could have been rehashing an entry in another paper > from closer to Thornton (Dale) where the marriage took place, but I have > not > found such other newspaper entry. Such other paper may not have known its > Selby from its Scawby. > > Clark is such a difficult name to research because there are just so many > hits. But I will have to try to find an association of the name Clark with > Castlethorpe in N Lincs. And I have no idea why this couple married in the > north of the Vale of Pickering. The bride was aged about 31 having been > born in Hull in 1777. Perhaps by 1808 she was employed and therefore lived > near Thornton. > > Bill Webster > New South Wales > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear All, I think I have at last resolved the problems with the Yorkshire surnames interest list, and so I should get back to the monthly updates for the various YKS mailing lists. The additional names submitted this month are as follows: ADDISON, ALEXANDER, ALLEN, APPLEYARD, ARCHBELL ARMITAGE, ATKINSON BAILEY, BAKER, BARKER, BARNBY, BAYS, BEAUMONT BENN, BENTHAM, BOTHOMLEY, BOTTOMLEY, BROADLEY BROOK, BROOK(2) CANTRELL, CARR, CLITHEROE, COATES, COBB COLEMAN, COULSON, CRAPPER, CROWTHER DAVILLE, DEAN, DENNIS, DEWSNAP, DICKINSON, DINNIS, DONALD, DOWDS, DRIVER, DYSON EPWORTH FAWCETT, FEATHER, FLEMING GAMMILL, GASCOIGNE, GREATHEAD, GREAVES, GREEN HAGUE, HAIGH, HAINSWORTH, HALL, HALLIWELL HAMILTON, HEMINGWAY, HEWITT, HICKS, HILL HIRST, HOBSON, HODGSON, HOSFIELD HOLLAND, HOLLAS, HUNTER, HUTCHINSON ISSOTT JAMES, JOHNSON KELLETT LAMB, LANCASTER, LEE, LISHMAN, LIVINGSTONE LUPTON, LYLE, LAKIN, LANTROPE, LEDGER MANCKLIN, MARSHALL, MAW, MEAD, MIDGLEY, MIRFIN NALSON, NEWSOME, NICHOLS OLIVER, OUTRAM PARKER, PARKIN, PATCHETT, PAYETTE, PEACOCK PEARSON, PECKET, PICKELS, POTTS, PRIESTLEY RALPH, RAMSDEN, ROBERTSHAW, ROBINSON SAWYER, SCARGILL, SHANN, SILVERWOOD, STAKE, STOCKTON STONES, SUTCLIFFE TORRY, TOWN VERITY WARWICK, WESTWOOD, WHITWELL, WILKINSON, WILSON, WINDASS, WOOD I've had no additional email addresses bouncing and some users have informed me of their new addresses resulting in the list of bouncing email addresses amounting to just under 4,000. The list can be found here: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/BouncedNames.txt If you are on it, please drop me a line giving your old and new addresses. Please note that in future updates such as this will only be sent to the more heavily used lists: [email protected] (the most heavily used) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Happy hunting! Best wishes, Colin Hinson In the village of Blunham in Bedfordshire U.K. Webmaster for the Genuki Yorkshire pages: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ Old and Rare Yorkshire Books on searchable CDroms: http://www.YorkshireCDbooks.com

Hi Jane - There may be a Scalby near Howden, but the Scalby where I went to school is just outside Scarborough. Rod -----Original Message----- From: JANE WOODALL via Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 6:05 PM To: Pam Thorley ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 26 "THORPE HALL, a farm-house in the township and parish of Selby; 2 miles W. of Selby, 9 from Ferrybridge Hi Bill I looked at Genuki and this came up - may have been known locally as Castle Thorpe. I don't think a journalist in Hull would mix up Scawby and Selby to be honest - there's a big, wide river between Hull and Lincolnshire, so in Hull Lincs seems quite remote, and same if you're on the other side. Scalby is in Yorkshire, near Howden. Hope that helps Jane Chasing W(h)eldrake/drick - any variation, anywhere, anytime. On 28 January 2015 at 15:53, Pam Thorley via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > re. Message 4. Selby Yorks > > Dear Bill,May help - I have been confused a few times by a place named > Scalby, when looking for some Selbyfamily members. Don't know where Scalby > is, but it may be relevant. > PamIn sunny Queensland > > > > 4. Selby Yorks - Scawby N Lincs (Bill Webster) > > > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:46:03 +1100 > > From: "Bill Webster" <[email protected]> > > Subject: [YORKSGEN] Selby Yorks - Scawby N Lincs > > To: <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Recent posts mentioning Selby have prompted me to reprise a query I put > here > > a year ago, which many tried to help with, thank you, including the > > Selby > > FHS. It concerned this entry in the Hull Packet & Advertiser of 13 Dec > > 1808. > > > > MARRIAGES > > On Tuesday last, at Thornton, by the Reverend Mr Mackerith, Mr. CLARK, > > of > > Castlethorp, near Selby, to Miss WEBSTER, daughter of the late Reverend > > Robert Webster, Rector of Thorpebasset, and Curate of the Holy Trinity > > Church at this place (Hull). (My capitals and brackets.) > > > > I do not know these areas at all. But I have just done a search at the > OS > > Getamap site for "Castlethorp" and one of two options is for a village > and > > farm named Castlethorpe, near SCAWBY, just west outside of Brigg in > > North > > Lincolnshire. > > > > Does anyone think it may have been possible for the Hull Packet compiler > of > > local news to have mistaken Scawby for Selby, Selby being much the > > better > > known? > > > > The Hull newspaper also could have been rehashing an entry in another > paper > > from closer to Thornton (Dale) where the marriage took place, but I have > not > > found such other newspaper entry. Such other paper may not have known > its > > Selby from its Scawby. > > > > Clark is such a difficult name to research because there are just so > > many > > hits. But I will have to try to find an association of the name Clark > with > > Castlethorpe in N Lincs. And I have no idea why this couple married in > the > > north of the Vale of Pickering. The bride was aged about 31 having been > > born in Hull in 1777. Perhaps by 1808 she was employed and therefore > lived > > near Thornton. > > > > Bill Webster > > New South Wales > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the YORKSGEN list administrator, send an email to > > [email protected] > > > > To post a message to the YORKSGEN mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 26 > > **************************************** > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Scalby is just a few mikes north of Scraborough. Put Scalby into Google Earth. Lancelot -- LBarron Associates U.K

"THORPE HALL, a farm-house in the township and parish of Selby; 2 miles W. of Selby, 9 from Ferrybridge Hi Bill I looked at Genuki and this came up - may have been known locally as Castle Thorpe. I don't think a journalist in Hull would mix up Scawby and Selby to be honest - there's a big, wide river between Hull and Lincolnshire, so in Hull Lincs seems quite remote, and same if you're on the other side. Scalby is in Yorkshire, near Howden. Hope that helps Jane Chasing W(h)eldrake/drick - any variation, anywhere, anytime. On 28 January 2015 at 15:53, Pam Thorley via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > re. Message 4. Selby Yorks > > Dear Bill,May help - I have been confused a few times by a place named > Scalby, when looking for some Selbyfamily members. Don't know where Scalby > is, but it may be relevant. > PamIn sunny Queensland > > > > 4. Selby Yorks - Scawby N Lincs (Bill Webster) > > > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:46:03 +1100 > > From: "Bill Webster" <[email protected]> > > Subject: [YORKSGEN] Selby Yorks - Scawby N Lincs > > To: <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Recent posts mentioning Selby have prompted me to reprise a query I put > here > > a year ago, which many tried to help with, thank you, including the Selby > > FHS. It concerned this entry in the Hull Packet & Advertiser of 13 Dec > > 1808. > > > > MARRIAGES > > On Tuesday last, at Thornton, by the Reverend Mr Mackerith, Mr. CLARK, of > > Castlethorp, near Selby, to Miss WEBSTER, daughter of the late Reverend > > Robert Webster, Rector of Thorpebasset, and Curate of the Holy Trinity > > Church at this place (Hull). (My capitals and brackets.) > > > > I do not know these areas at all. But I have just done a search at the > OS > > Getamap site for "Castlethorp" and one of two options is for a village > and > > farm named Castlethorpe, near SCAWBY, just west outside of Brigg in North > > Lincolnshire. > > > > Does anyone think it may have been possible for the Hull Packet compiler > of > > local news to have mistaken Scawby for Selby, Selby being much the better > > known? > > > > The Hull newspaper also could have been rehashing an entry in another > paper > > from closer to Thornton (Dale) where the marriage took place, but I have > not > > found such other newspaper entry. Such other paper may not have known > its > > Selby from its Scawby. > > > > Clark is such a difficult name to research because there are just so many > > hits. But I will have to try to find an association of the name Clark > with > > Castlethorpe in N Lincs. And I have no idea why this couple married in > the > > north of the Vale of Pickering. The bride was aged about 31 having been > > born in Hull in 1777. Perhaps by 1808 she was employed and therefore > lived > > near Thornton. > > > > Bill Webster > > New South Wales > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the YORKSGEN list administrator, send an email to > > [email protected] > > > > To post a message to the YORKSGEN mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 26 > > **************************************** > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >