I have large trees on both Ancestry.com and Ancestry.co.uk. I barely use their records at all, it was mostly a place to park my trees. I don't feel that I can trust Ancestry anymore and would like to have my trees somewhere else besides just with them. Not being very tech savvy, can anyone advise me on how to get the information from Ancestry, including pictures and sources, onto something without re-typing the entire thing? Ideally, it would be without re-doing any of it, just transferring it. I was going to put it onto a thumb drive over Christmas holidays. Would that be a good idea? If so, then where to go from there? Best wishes, Lois Blackburn Massachusetts, USA

Just to have my two cents worth. I use "Legacy" Deluxe which I believe cost me all of $25. That is my working tree. I then use a ged file to upload where I wish. I encourage contacts to try "Tribalpages" (free) one of the places I have `parked`my tree. Has worked for me for about 16 years. Does FTM NOT allow Ged files to be extracted.............. Elaine Pickard Sheffield Indexers Site Admin www.sheffieldindexers.com On 9 December 2015 at 12:10, Lois B. via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have large trees on both Ancestry.com and Ancestry.co.uk. I barely use > their records at all, it was mostly a place to park my trees. > > I don't feel that I can trust Ancestry anymore and would like to have my > trees somewhere else besides just with them. Not being very tech savvy, > can anyone advise me on how to get the information from Ancestry, including > pictures and sources, onto something without re-typing the entire thing? > Ideally, it would be without re-doing any of it, just transferring it. > > I was going to put it onto a thumb drive over Christmas holidays. Would > that be a good idea? If so, then where to go from there? > > Best wishes, > Lois Blackburn > Massachusetts, USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List We have unearthed a rather ordinary (not silver) fork with the following characteristics: handle upperside: stamped ROWLANDS (rather irregularly in large uppercase) handle lower side: marked (a) BI8BY NI 1941 (about the size you would expect of hallmarks and along the length of the handle) followed by (b) AM (large uppercase) with a crown above, both being across the handle and then (c ) 456974 (again along the length of the handle and again large uppercase). The crown is similar (but not identical) to the one which we have come to expect of the crown which accompanies ‘Keep Calm and Carry On’, so I imagine it is very likely WWII. Is it army issue or the like and, if so, can the original owner be traced? John Lindley NRY.

I have FTM but my main tree is Family Historian. From time to time I copy FH to FTM and the only reason I do that is because in FTM all the names on my tree have a leaf against them indicating there is other information for that person. I have found this useful as it leads me directly to other sources or other peoples trees. With FTM ceasing I presume those with FTM will still be able to use it but there will never be another upgrade. It probably just means the leaves against the peoples names will disappear. Ancestry gives lots of hints against the names on peoples trees as well as sending me emails with hints and also when other people have added more details to their trees (which have names on my tree). When you log into Ancestry the hints appear on the top right of your screen. At the moment there are over 100 hints waiting for my attention but I have little time to check them out. Family Historian has a similar system to the leaf on Ancestry and that leads to, I think, Find My Past. I have turned this link off because I don't subscribe to FMP. One subscription is enough for me Victor On 09/12/2015 11:36 AM, Pontefract FHS via wrote: > Yes Ancestry do have more records than others, but I personally use FTM as > it helps to search these ever growing records. By using their Sync process > the images are already on my computer but this of course will stop. As I > have a large One Name Study as one of my Ancestry trees the process of > searching, downloading and manually linking images to the relevant persons > will be a very long winded process and of course all my research for this > study and my personal trees will have to be migrated to another family tree > software and that is not always a smooth operation, as I do use other > software to build my personal website and some items in FTM Gedcom export do > not read correctly into other programs. > > I personally feel that Ancestry are going to loose many many customers, > looking at the blog on this subject many are already cancelling their > subscriptions. > > They say they are adding more records (majority USA) and are building more > resources for the benefit of their LOYAL community, but as far as I can see > this is no benefit to anyone > > Sharon Smith > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nivard Ovington via > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:07 AM > To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Fw: Ancestry to Retire Family Tree Maker Software > > The point being that Ancestry have more records than anyone else online > > You do not have to be an FTM user to use Ancestry and I would hazard a > guess the site users far outweigh the FTM users by a country mile > > There is nothing to stop an Ancestry user saving the record/image to > their computer and adding to whatever software they use > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 09/12/2015 10:41, Pontefract FHS via wrote: >> So what will be the point of a subscription if you can’t link it to >> FTM, I know a lot of people don’t use FTM but I bought this to link >> to my subscription and search the records to link to me tree. Maybe >> they are spending lots of time and money on records and a really >> horrible new interface, but if they are scrapping their software, >> what’s the point >> > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I really don't see the connection More people use Ancestry for records than the online trees and are likely to continue doing so The online trees will still be on Ancestry The user will still be able to download any record they have access to on Ancestry I see no need to migrate to another program, a program that is likely to be obsolete fairly soon as all stand alone programs cease to be produced in time As to people not subscribing again or cancelling, in my experience, each time something happens and changes are made to Ancestry, Findmypast or other site, people complain and *say* they will leave or not subscribe again, but most still do as they want the records As more mobile device users use web sites the sites are going to cater for them in preference to the stand alone user, computers are selling less and smartphones/tablets are increasing We may not like it but thats progress Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/12/2015 11:36, Pontefract FHS wrote: > Yes Ancestry do have more records than others, but I personally use FTM > as it helps to search these ever growing records. By using their Sync > process the images are already on my computer but this of course will > stop. As I have a large One Name Study as one of my Ancestry trees the > process of searching, downloading and manually linking images to the > relevant persons will be a very long winded process and of course all my > research for this study and my personal trees will have to be migrated > to another family tree software and that is not always a smooth > operation, as I do use other software to build my personal website and > some items in FTM Gedcom export do not read correctly into other programs. > > I personally feel that Ancestry are going to loose many many customers, > looking at the blog on this subject many are already cancelling their > subscriptions. > > They say they are adding more records (majority USA) and are building > more resources for the benefit of their LOYAL community, but as far as I > can see this is no benefit to anyone > > Sharon Smith --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Yes Ancestry do have more records than others, but I personally use FTM as it helps to search these ever growing records. By using their Sync process the images are already on my computer but this of course will stop. As I have a large One Name Study as one of my Ancestry trees the process of searching, downloading and manually linking images to the relevant persons will be a very long winded process and of course all my research for this study and my personal trees will have to be migrated to another family tree software and that is not always a smooth operation, as I do use other software to build my personal website and some items in FTM Gedcom export do not read correctly into other programs. I personally feel that Ancestry are going to loose many many customers, looking at the blog on this subject many are already cancelling their subscriptions. They say they are adding more records (majority USA) and are building more resources for the benefit of their LOYAL community, but as far as I can see this is no benefit to anyone Sharon Smith -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington via Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:07 AM To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Fw: Ancestry to Retire Family Tree Maker Software The point being that Ancestry have more records than anyone else online You do not have to be an FTM user to use Ancestry and I would hazard a guess the site users far outweigh the FTM users by a country mile There is nothing to stop an Ancestry user saving the record/image to their computer and adding to whatever software they use Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/12/2015 10:41, Pontefract FHS via wrote: > So what will be the point of a subscription if you can’t link it to > FTM, I know a lot of people don’t use FTM but I bought this to link > to my subscription and search the records to link to me tree. Maybe > they are spending lots of time and money on records and a really > horrible new interface, but if they are scrapping their software, > what’s the point > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The point being that Ancestry have more records than anyone else online You do not have to be an FTM user to use Ancestry and I would hazard a guess the site users far outweigh the FTM users by a country mile There is nothing to stop an Ancestry user saving the record/image to their computer and adding to whatever software they use Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/12/2015 10:41, Pontefract FHS via wrote: > So what will be the point of a subscription if you can’t link it to > FTM, I know a lot of people don’t use FTM but I bought this to link > to my subscription and search the records to link to me tree. Maybe > they are spending lots of time and money on records and a really > horrible new interface, but if they are scrapping their software, > what’s the point > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

So what will be the point of a subscription if you can’t link it to FTM, I know a lot of people don’t use FTM but I bought this to link to my subscription and search the records to link to me tree. Maybe they are spending lots of time and money on records and a really horrible new interface, but if they are scrapping their software, what’s the point Dear Family Tree Maker™ community, Ancestry is proud to have made a significant investment this year to bring valuable new content and records to the Ancestry site. In 2015, we’ve made 220 million searchable historical records from Mexico available, more than 170 million pages from the largest collection of U.S. will and probate records, among others. We’ve also introduced new features such as Ancestry Academy, and major advancements for AncestryDNA. As we strive to provide our customers with the best experience possible, we are constantly evaluating our services and product offerings. True to this focus, we’ve taken a hard look at the declining desktop software market and the impact this has on being able to continue to provide new content, product enhancements and support that our users need. With that, we’ve made the tough decision to stop selling Family Tree Maker as of December 31, 2015. We will continue to support existing Family Tree Maker owners at least through January 1, 2017. During this time, all features of the software, including TreeSync™ will continue to work. Our Member Services team will also remain available to assist with questions or issues you may have. These changes are never easy. But by focusing our efforts, we can concentrate on continuing to build great products for our loyal Ancestry community. You can find additional details about the retirement of Family Tree Maker on our blog. Contact Us Online Help Please add to your address book to make sure you don't miss an email. You are receiving this email because you have registered with Ancestry using the email address mrssharonsmith54@gmail.com. Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement for more information. Use of Ancestry.com is subject to our Terms and Conditions. © 2015 ANCESTRY.COM Ancestry.com Operations Inc. 360 West 4800 North, Provo, UT 84604 USA

Sorry all, Yvonne and I should have shared the rest of our conversation with you. Now there are 2 main record offices. The East Yorkshire Office is in Beverley and the City has an archive in Hull. The date of this deposition is in the 19hC when there was an East Riding so the conclusion was that the deposit was in Beverley. Of course (fingers slapped) I could have looked in the online catalogue. Might be another useful source of info though. Chris ----Original message---- >From : yorksgen@rootsweb.com Date : 09/12/2015 - 06:44 (GMT) To : victor@markham.me.uk, yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject : Re: [YORKSGEN] Hull Holy Trinity Burial Ground update The County Records Office is at Beverley Alan Longbottom -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Victor Markham via Sent: 08 December 2015 21:59 To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Hull Holy Trinity Burial Ground update Hi Chris Since we talking about Holy Trinity Church Hull I would say they are in the Treasure House in Hull Victor On 08/12/2015 5:08 PM, CHRISTINE WILLOTT via wrote: > Hi Yvonne > > When it says County record office, is this the Treasure House at Beverley or is it the archives in Hull? > > Chris > ----Original message---- > >From : yorksgen@rootsweb.com > Date : 08/12/2015 - 09:55 (GMT) > To : yorksgen@rootsweb.com > Subject : Re: [YORKSGEN] Hull Holy Trinity Burial Ground update > > Dear Bill & Margaret > > According to the MI booklet from EYFHS for Holy Trinity, Hull................ > > These monumental inscriptions in the churchyard of Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull were > recorded in the early 1860s by the then vestry clerk and were later deposited with the > Holy Trinity ecclesiastical records in the County Archives Office. The frontispiece reads > as follows:- Copies of all the legible inscriptions in the Churchyard of the Holy Trinity > Kingston upon Hull in December 1860 & February 1861, by me, Jno Barton, Vestry Clerk. > > > Yvonne > in Stillingfleet > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The County Records Office is at Beverley Alan Longbottom -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Victor Markham via Sent: 08 December 2015 21:59 To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Hull Holy Trinity Burial Ground update Hi Chris Since we talking about Holy Trinity Church Hull I would say they are in the Treasure House in Hull Victor On 08/12/2015 5:08 PM, CHRISTINE WILLOTT via wrote: > Hi Yvonne > > When it says County record office, is this the Treasure House at Beverley or is it the archives in Hull? > > Chris > ----Original message---- > >From : yorksgen@rootsweb.com > Date : 08/12/2015 - 09:55 (GMT) > To : yorksgen@rootsweb.com > Subject : Re: [YORKSGEN] Hull Holy Trinity Burial Ground update > > Dear Bill & Margaret > > According to the MI booklet from EYFHS for Holy Trinity, Hull................ > > These monumental inscriptions in the churchyard of Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull were > recorded in the early 1860s by the then vestry clerk and were later deposited with the > Holy Trinity ecclesiastical records in the County Archives Office. The frontispiece reads > as follows:- Copies of all the legible inscriptions in the Churchyard of the Holy Trinity > Kingston upon Hull in December 1860 & February 1861, by me, Jno Barton, Vestry Clerk. > > > Yvonne > in Stillingfleet > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris Since we talking about Holy Trinity Church Hull I would say they are in the Treasure House in Hull Victor On 08/12/2015 5:08 PM, CHRISTINE WILLOTT via wrote: > Hi Yvonne > > When it says County record office, is this the Treasure House at Beverley or is it the archives in Hull? > > Chris > ----Original message---- > >From : yorksgen@rootsweb.com > Date : 08/12/2015 - 09:55 (GMT) > To : yorksgen@rootsweb.com > Subject : Re: [YORKSGEN] Hull Holy Trinity Burial Ground update > > Dear Bill & Margaret > > According to the MI booklet from EYFHS for Holy Trinity, Hull................ > > These monumental inscriptions in the churchyard of Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull were > recorded in the early 1860s by the then vestry clerk and were later deposited with the > Holy Trinity ecclesiastical records in the County Archives Office. The frontispiece reads > as follows:- Copies of all the legible inscriptions in the Churchyard of the Holy Trinity > Kingston upon Hull in December 1860 & February 1861, by me, Jno Barton, Vestry Clerk. > > > Yvonne > in Stillingfleet > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Yvonne When it says County record office, is this the Treasure House at Beverley or is it the archives in Hull? Chris ----Original message---- >From : yorksgen@rootsweb.com Date : 08/12/2015 - 09:55 (GMT) To : yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject : Re: [YORKSGEN] Hull Holy Trinity Burial Ground update Dear Bill & Margaret According to the MI booklet from EYFHS for Holy Trinity, Hull................ These monumental inscriptions in the churchyard of Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull were recorded in the early 1860s by the then vestry clerk and were later deposited with the Holy Trinity ecclesiastical records in the County Archives Office. The frontispiece reads as follows:- Copies of all the legible inscriptions in the Churchyard of the Holy Trinity Kingston upon Hull in December 1860 & February 1861, by me, Jno Barton, Vestry Clerk. Yvonne in Stillingfleet --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Bill & Margaret According to the MI booklet from EYFHS for Holy Trinity, Hull................ These monumental inscriptions in the churchyard of Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull were recorded in the early 1860s by the then vestry clerk and were later deposited with the Holy Trinity ecclesiastical records in the County Archives Office. The frontispiece reads as follows:- Copies of all the legible inscriptions in the Churchyard of the Holy Trinity Kingston upon Hull in December 1860 & February 1861, by me, Jno Barton, Vestry Clerk. Yvonne in Stillingfleet --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

That's good for someone to know Yvonne. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne Clarke via" <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> To: <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 4:55 AM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Hull Holy Trinity Burial Ground update > Dear Bill & Margaret > > According to the MI booklet from EYFHS for Holy Trinity, > Hull................ > > These monumental inscriptions in the churchyard of Holy Trinity, Kingston > upon Hull were > recorded in the early 1860s by the then vestry clerk and were later > deposited with the > Holy Trinity ecclesiastical records in the County Archives Office. The > frontispiece reads > as follows:- Copies of all the legible inscriptions in the Churchyard of > the Holy Trinity > Kingston upon Hull in December 1860 & February 1861, by me, Jno Barton, > Vestry Clerk. > > Yvonne > in Stillingfleet

Thanks for the update Margaret. I did wonder if the leaflet could be online. In the process of searching, it appears that a lot of hits from recent local Hull newspapers can be read. Also this: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/hulls-rich-history-uncovered-at-burial-gr ound. It could be worth restating from the above site: The burial ground opened in 1783 and was used by Holy Trinity Church until around 1860. Parish records reveal that up to 44,041 burials took place on the site until it was closed in 1861. 44,000 burials in shallow graves over only 80 years. You would have to be very lucky to come across an identifiable ancestor burial. Bill -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Taylor via Sent: Tuesday, 8 December 2015 6:14 AM To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Hull Holy Trinity Burial Ground update I am resending this because I haven't seen it up on the site. Subject: Hull Holy Trinity Burial Ground update I have just received an update about the work at the Trinity Burial Ground in Hull.Here is the information for anyone interested. "I am writing to update you about our work at the Trinity Burial Ground in Hull.Since we last wrote we have made significant progress with our work to investigate the ground conditions below the burial ground and further our understanding as to the likely level of burials we may need to deal with during the construction of the A63 Castle St.project. Unfortunately we will be unable to re-open the burial ground until the end of January 2016 at the earliest. The reason for the delay is that some of our work has taken longer than we anticipated.Also we want to make sure that the disturbed ground has had enough time to settle and the grass has had time to grow. We have been given permission by Holy Trinity Church to keep the burial ground closed and fenced off for this additional period. We are sorry for the delay to the re-opening of the site.We believe this is the appropriate thing to do to retain the on-going respect we have shown to those buried. I enclose a leaflet for your information which details the work we have carried out in the burial ground, some of the findings we have made and an update on what will happen next. If anyone is interested I can send them an attachment of the leaflet they sent me: "Investing archaeology at Trinity Burial Ground Hull" Just drop me a line with your email address. Margaret Taylor ( Port Perry.Ont. Can.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am resending this because I haven't seen it up on the site. Subject: Hull Holy Trinity Burial Ground update I have just received an update about the work at the Trinity Burial Ground in Hull.Here is the information for anyone interested. "I am writing to update you about our work at the Trinity Burial Ground in Hull.Since we last wrote we have made significant progress with our work to investigate the ground conditions below the burial ground and further our understanding as to the likely level of burials we may need to deal with during the construction of the A63 Castle St.project. Unfortunately we will be unable to re-open the burial ground until the end of January 2016 at the earliest. The reason for the delay is that some of our work has taken longer than we anticipated.Also we want to make sure that the disturbed ground has had enough time to settle and the grass has had time to grow. We have been given permission by Holy Trinity Church to keep the burial ground closed and fenced off for this additional period. We are sorry for the delay to the re-opening of the site.We believe this is the appropriate thing to do to retain the on-going respect we have shown to those buried. I enclose a leaflet for your information which details the work we have carried out in the burial ground, some of the findings we have made and an update on what will happen next. If anyone is interested I can send them an attachment of the leaflet they sent me: "Investing archaeology at Trinity Burial Ground Hull" Just drop me a line with your email address. Margaret Taylor ( Port Perry.Ont. Can.)

Hi all thanks so much for that. I research for the Fromelles association finding living family who are a dna match for the soldiers found in the mass grave in 2008. We are finding people who are a Y DNA match – male line, and Mitochondrial Mt DNA for the female line as the army needs one of each for every soldier (144 out of 250 now identified) We assemble dna charts in this framework. Coincidentally I am doing a course in family history and at the recent exam it asked the question of what test you would do to find if a male and female had the same mother. the four possible answers were something like X, Y, XY AND XYZ I couldn't answer that question. what is the answer please? Marg From: janetlovegrove@rogers.com Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 10:56 PM To: marg o'leary ; June ; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Can you help? Ancestry DNA Autosomal. There is a Facebook Group DNA Detectives where you can learn a lot about the testing and results. Janet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: marg o'leary <marglap@skead.net> To: janetlovegrove@rogers.com; June <mai_ling@aapt.net.au>; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 4:39 AM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Can you help? Very interesting Can you please tell me the name of the dna test you do to find the dna that matches father and daughter? cheers Marg -----Original Message----- From: janetlovegrove via Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 4:42 PM To: June ; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Can you help? How important is the info to you? You could have DNA testing done if it is important. It is amazing what can be found thru the testing nowadays. We had the Y test done on a number of SHEPHERDSONs which was great. However, only males can participate on that test going thru the paternal line. Now the DNA testing includes females and its amazing what can be found. I belong to a FB group Search Squad which helps reunite adopted children and birth parents. I am totally amazed at people coming onboard with virtually NO info. After taking DNA tests, so many people have connected to unknown relations. I have ordered one for myself. Maybe.....although not holding out a big hope, I can find my Mother's Father, whoever he is. But it does depend on who has tested to help make a match. Janet From: June via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Can you help? Sorry I should have re-read more clearly - John Smith's father was known as Michael Smith but was actually Michael Brown - it is John's grandfather ? Brown I am trying to find. Sorry for the mix up. -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of June via Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2015 2:21 PM To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Can you help? I wonder if any members can give me some ideas of where to look next - if in fact there is somewhere else to look. Due to people still being alive I have not given their correct names. The people do live in Yorkshire and all within a short distance from each other. John Smith was born in 1970 to Jane Jones and Michael Smith. Michael Smith was born in 1930 Upon growing up John Smith finds out that even though his birth certificate states his parents are Jane Jones and Michael Smith his father is in fact ? Brown, a fact acknowledged by Jane (who has now passed on). I am trying to find who ? Brown was and therefore trace the correct parentage for John Smith. I did find that within the extended family Jane Jones had a cousin Mary Black and that Mary went on to marry someone called Brian Brown. I obtained the birth certificate of Brian Brown in the hope that if I looked at his parentage and other family trees on Ancestry et al, I might find a connection. Although I was able to trace the family of Brian Brown I cannot find a brother for him, also in family trees where he occurs there is no mention of a brother or cousin having a child out of wedlock. Common sense tells me that without ? Brown's first name I have no hope of tracing him, but I thought that it was worth asking. Thank you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Very interesting Can you please tell me the name of the dna test you do to find the dna that matches father and daughter? cheers Marg -----Original Message----- From: janetlovegrove via Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 4:42 PM To: June ; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Can you help? How important is the info to you? You could have DNA testing done if it is important. It is amazing what can be found thru the testing nowadays. We had the Y test done on a number of SHEPHERDSONs which was great. However, only males can participate on that test going thru the paternal line. Now the DNA testing includes females and its amazing what can be found. I belong to a FB group Search Squad which helps reunite adopted children and birth parents. I am totally amazed at people coming onboard with virtually NO info. After taking DNA tests, so many people have connected to unknown relations. I have ordered one for myself. Maybe.....although not holding out a big hope, I can find my Mother's Father, whoever he is. But it does depend on who has tested to help make a match. Janet From: June via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Can you help? Sorry I should have re-read more clearly - John Smith's father was known as Michael Smith but was actually Michael Brown - it is John's grandfather ? Brown I am trying to find. Sorry for the mix up. -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of June via Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2015 2:21 PM To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Can you help? I wonder if any members can give me some ideas of where to look next - if in fact there is somewhere else to look. Due to people still being alive I have not given their correct names. The people do live in Yorkshire and all within a short distance from each other. John Smith was born in 1970 to Jane Jones and Michael Smith. Michael Smith was born in 1930 Upon growing up John Smith finds out that even though his birth certificate states his parents are Jane Jones and Michael Smith his father is in fact ? Brown, a fact acknowledged by Jane (who has now passed on). I am trying to find who ? Brown was and therefore trace the correct parentage for John Smith. I did find that within the extended family Jane Jones had a cousin Mary Black and that Mary went on to marry someone called Brian Brown. I obtained the birth certificate of Brian Brown in the hope that if I looked at his parentage and other family trees on Ancestry et al, I might find a connection. Although I was able to trace the family of Brian Brown I cannot find a brother for him, also in family trees where he occurs there is no mention of a brother or cousin having a child out of wedlock. Common sense tells me that without ? Brown's first name I have no hope of tracing him, but I thought that it was worth asking. Thank you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry I should have re-read more clearly - John Smith's father was known as Michael Smith but was actually Michael Brown - it is John's grandfather ? Brown I am trying to find. Sorry for the mix up. -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of June via Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2015 2:21 PM To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Can you help? I wonder if any members can give me some ideas of where to look next - if in fact there is somewhere else to look. Due to people still being alive I have not given their correct names. The people do live in Yorkshire and all within a short distance from each other. John Smith was born in 1970 to Jane Jones and Michael Smith. Michael Smith was born in 1930 Upon growing up John Smith finds out that even though his birth certificate states his parents are Jane Jones and Michael Smith his father is in fact ? Brown, a fact acknowledged by Jane (who has now passed on). I am trying to find who ? Brown was and therefore trace the correct parentage for John Smith. I did find that within the extended family Jane Jones had a cousin Mary Black and that Mary went on to marry someone called Brian Brown. I obtained the birth certificate of Brian Brown in the hope that if I looked at his parentage and other family trees on Ancestry et al, I might find a connection. Although I was able to trace the family of Brian Brown I cannot find a brother for him, also in family trees where he occurs there is no mention of a brother or cousin having a child out of wedlock. Common sense tells me that without ? Brown's first name I have no hope of tracing him, but I thought that it was worth asking. Thank you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder if any members can give me some ideas of where to look next - if in fact there is somewhere else to look. Due to people still being alive I have not given their correct names. The people do live in Yorkshire and all within a short distance from each other. John Smith was born in 1970 to Jane Jones and Michael Smith. Michael Smith was born in 1930 Upon growing up John Smith finds out that even though his birth certificate states his parents are Jane Jones and Michael Smith his father is in fact ? Brown, a fact acknowledged by Jane (who has now passed on). I am trying to find who ? Brown was and therefore trace the correct parentage for John Smith. I did find that within the extended family Jane Jones had a cousin Mary Black and that Mary went on to marry someone called Brian Brown. I obtained the birth certificate of Brian Brown in the hope that if I looked at his parentage and other family trees on Ancestry et al, I might find a connection. Although I was able to trace the family of Brian Brown I cannot find a brother for him, also in family trees where he occurs there is no mention of a brother or cousin having a child out of wedlock. Common sense tells me that without ? Brown's first name I have no hope of tracing him, but I thought that it was worth asking. Thank you.