VISIT ONE OF OUR OLEY YODER COUSINS IN THE DESERT OF SAUDI ARABIA... VERY FITTING FOR A VETERAN'S DAY.... http://147.71.154.103/11ada/EBTRY.HTM OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH HIM AND OUR OTHER MEN AN WOMEN IN HARMS WAY.. ==== YODER Mailing List ==== Have you visited the YODER NEWSLETTER ARCHIVES lately? http://www.genealogy.org/~yoder/

Yoder Researchers, After seeing Judy's comment on "Pedigree Collapse", I thought of an article that I had just seen, and wanted to pass the address along. The article is on the Olive Tree Genealogy Page and is entitled "How many ancestors do we have?" http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ancnm.htm In my ancestry, I have a lot of "Collapse" on my Grandfather Yoder's side of the family. I tell people that I am 1/4 Amish. On the other Branches of my family, I have only a handfull of multiple ancestors. Which, when you get back 11 to 12 generations, means you are searching for a lot of surnames. I am adding a list of the surnames in my ancestry to my Genealogy page today. > > Roll call was fun - I'm amazed by people who can trace 7 or 8 lines > back to one couple. So far, in Berks Co., I've only had one > "pedigree collapse" - BROBST. > > Judy BORTZ GURKA > gurka@cs.colorado.edu > 16 g'granddaughter of Ulli (!!!) Steven A. Braman braman@wws.net http://www.wws.net/sbraman/genlink.html ==== YODER Mailing List ==== Volunteers wanted with Library Access--to copy Census and other Yoder data to add to our archives--write: Chris Yoder

Cyndy recently posted the European ancestors of Hans and Yost Yoder, the immigrants from Steffisburg, Switzerland to the Oley Valley, Pennsylvania. From what I have, from the Yoder archives, it seems that some of her spouses were off by a generation (but the message, at my end anyway, also had some extra lines, so perhaps it was a display problem?). Here's what I have - would love any additions or corrections: -- Ulli (b.c. 1340) m. Elsi Zaugg/Zook [all European spellings are Joder] Heini (b.c.1363) m. Leni Gerber or Gither Jost (b. 1387, Steffisburg) m. Madlene Schlichter Caspar (b. Steffisburg) m. Anni Meyer Caspar m. Margret Moser or Meyer Balthasar (b. 1525, Steffisburg) m. Anna Jost or Roth Caspar (b. 1548, Steffisburg) m. (1571) Anni Moser Caspar (b. 1571) m. (1596) Margret Hennig Nicolaus (b.1609) m. (1642) Anna Trachsel Adam (b. 1650) m. (9 Jan 1671) Barbli Ochsenbein Yost (immigrant, b. 5 Oct 1679) m. (?) Are the Caspars right? Is there a missing generation (or more) between Jost (b. 1387) and Balthasar (b. 1525), or is it just a few younger sons in a row (works OK if Jost, Caspar, and Caspar were all around fifty when their sons were born, but that does bring up the likelihood of additional wives)? Have any of the "either/or" wives's names been cleared up? For wives' parents, I only show Peter Zuagg, father of Elsi; are any more known? I alos have no dates on any of the wives, but I may not have transcribed all the data in the newsletters yet (it's just such a comfortable feeling knowing it's there!). Roll call was fun - I'm amazed by people who can trace 7 or 8 lines back to one couple. So far, in Berks Co., I've only had one "pedigree collapse" - BROBST. Hi to all my Oley cousins! Judy BORTZ GURKA gurka@cs.colorado.edu 16 g'granddaughter of Ulli (!!!)

Ooops - I'm late for roll call - do I get demerits? I see the Oley, PA line was under-represented, so here's mine (Cyndy - hi cousin! - let's talk!!): Yost Yoder (immigrant) m. ??? Jacob Yoder (b. 1735) m. Maria KEIM (b. 1734) Johannes Yoder (b. 1763) m. Phronica EMMERICH (b. 1766) Johannes/John Yoder (b. 1794) m. Magdalena BREYFOGEL Mary Ann Yoder (b. 1838) m. David BERK/BERG (David's parents are Charles & Catherine J. ---; anyone working on the Berk name? David m. (2) Margaret RAPP) Chris, any new news on Yost's wife? Has the suggestion that she was a Kuhlwein gained or lost any credability? Judy BORTZ GURKA gurka@cs.colorado.edu

Chris: I have copy of a short biography of Joash Yoder YR12a32....are you interested in this. Best regards, Gordon Yoder- Dallas, TX ==== YODER Mailing List ==== Have you visited the YODER NEWSLETTER ARCHIVES lately? http://www.genealogy.org/~yoder/

Hi, This is Cyndy Yoder Henry replying from good ole Pequea PA. I live on the Susquehanna river south of Columbia PA. I have had the privilege of being handed my Yoder genealogy from my aunt Elizabeth Yoder Brockman (Sallie). It is as follows: Ulli Joder b 1340 Heini Joder b 1363 m Elsi Zudgg/Zook Jost Joder b 1387 Caspar Joder (not all descendants included due to gap in years) Balthosar Joder b 1525 Caspar Joder b 1548 m1571 Anna Jost Caspar Joder b 2/24/1571 m 4/4/1596 Anni Moser Nicholas Joder b 3/25/1609 m 10/14/1642 Margaret Hennig Adam Joder b 7/22/1650 m 1/9/1671 Anna Fraschel Jost Yoder b 10/5/1679 m Barbi Ochsenhein Jacob Yoder m Maria Keim Johannes Yoder m 12/23/1788 Phronica Emerick Jacob Yoder b 6/27/1792 d 9/23/1861 m Catherine Ernst Daniel Yoder b 9/8/1831 d 6/4/1901 m Elizabeth Spang Henry Yoder b 1/18/1855 d 6/23/1922 m Sara Ann Leiss Paul Daniel Yoder b 2/16/1879 d 6/5/1962 m Kitty Horton Huff Stewart Aylmer Yoder b 5/2/1926 m Madrenenn Francis Greer Cynthia Madrenenn Yoder b 1/18/1951 that's me! It's been good to "see" all of my kin on the roll call. Be well, Cyndy ==== YODER Mailing List ==== Have you visited the YODER NEWSLETTER ARCHIVES lately? http://www.genealogy.org/~yoder/

This data is very sketchy, and I've asked for more details, but perhaps someone will recognize something here: ------------------ I am looking for a Daniel Yoder , Marcia Yoder & Michaael Yoder who is related to or Knows a Olga Hagglund from Roseau Minn. mnolson@means.net Marlin Olson ------------------------ If you do, please respond to the requestor... Thanks...Chris ==== YODER Mailing List ==== Volunteers wanted with Library Access--to copy Census and other Yoder data to add to our archives--write: Chris Yoder

Greetings from beautiful Portland Oregon. Sorry I'm late but I just got back in town. I was only going to post my paternal line but since Chris is declaring "winners" here are 8 lines instead. I'm not sure if this is all of them... I just got tired of looking. Line #1 1. YR - ? Yoder 2. YR2 - Christian Yoder 3. YR26 - Yost Yoder 4. YR261 - Henry Yoder 5. YR2611 - Yost Yoder 6. YR26117 - Daniel Yoder 7. YR261171 - Noah Yoder 8. YR2611714 - Menno Yoder 9. YR26117142 - Noah Yoder 10. YR261171427 - John Yoder 11. YR2611714272 - Robert Yoder Line #2 1a. YR - ? Yoder 2a. YR2 - Christian Yoder 3a. YR26 - Yost Yoder 4a. YR261 - Henry Yoder 5a. YR2611 - Yost Yoder 6a. YR26116 - Moses Yoder 7a. YR261162 - Peter M. Yoder 8a. YR2611625 - Sivilla Yoder m. Manasses S. Hochstedler 9a. - Magdelena Hochstedler m. Noah Yoder (#9 above) Line #3 1b. YR - ? Yoder 2b. YR2 - Christian Yoder 3b. YR26 - Yost Yoder 4b. YR261 - Henry Yoder 5b. YR2612 - Christian Yoder 6b. YR26123 - Veronica Yoder m. Jacob Garver 7b. - Levi Garver 8b. - Abraham Garver 9b. - Clara Garver m. John Yoder (#10 above) Line #4 1c. YR - ? Yoder 2c. YR2 - Christian Yoder 3c. YR23 - Christian Yoder 4c. YR239 - John Yoder 5c. YR2399 - Elizabeth Yoder m. Samuel (Shem) Kauffman 6c. - David Kaufman 7c. - Gertrude Kaufman m. Levi Garver (#7b above) Line #5 1d. YR - ? Yoder 2d. YR2 - Christian Yoder 3d. YR23 - Christian Yoder 4d. YR234 - Jacob Yoder 5d. YR2343 - Barbara Yoder m. Peter P. Miller 6d. - Daniel Miller 7d. - William Miller 8d. - Amanda Miller m. Menno Yoder (#8 above) Line #6 1e. YR - ? Yoder 2e. YR2 - Christian Yoder 3e. YR23 - Christian Yoder 4e. YR236 - Yost Yoder 5e. YR2364 - Magdalena Yoder m. David Lehman 6e. - Magdalena Lehman m. John C. Gnagey 7e. - Savilla Gnagey m. Noah Yoder (#7 above) Line #7 1f. YR - ? Yoder 2f. YR1 - ? Yoder 3f. YR12 - Christian Yoder 4f. YR126 - Veronica Yoder m. John Miller 5f. - David Miller 6f. - Daniel Miller 7f. - Noah Miller 8f. - Eli Miller 9f. - Catherine Miller 10f. - Catherine Miller m. Abraham Garver (#8b above) Line #8 1g. YR - ? Yoder 2g. YR1 - ? Yoder 3g. YR12 - Christian Yoder 4g. YR125 - John Yoder 5g. YR1255 - Elizabeth Yoder m. Yost H Yoder (#5 above) My parents were Amish, my mother from Hutchinson and my father from Kalona Ia. but left the Amish just a few months before I was born. Though am I am very proud of my heritage, I can't say that I'm disappointed they left. I'm much more comfortable in front of a computer then behind the wheel of a tractor or a plow horse :) I was born in Hutchinson Ks. (not too far from the town of Yoder) and lived there for 12 years. After a couple close calls with tornadoes, many years of hot summers and cold winters, and a vacation to the west coast in `78 convinced my parents that Oregon was truly God's country. Three months later the family packed up and moved to the small Oregon town of Willamina which is about half way between Salem and the coast. I moved to the Portland area in `85 to go to school after which I got a job and never left. I was glad to read cousin Jacki's roll call and information about the origin of the town of Yoder Or. (which isn't very far from here). I cannot not count the number of times someone has asked me if I'm related to the Yoder's in that area and until now I never knew what the answer was. Thank you Jacki. Robert Yoder rly@plaza.ds.adp.com ==== YODER Mailing List ==== Volunteers wanted with Library Access--to copy Census and other Yoder data to add to our archives--write: Chris Yoder

Steven A. Braman wrote: > > Hello Yoders, It was good to see how everybody fits into the Yoder > family. I see that I am related to all of the non Alsatian Amish > Yoder's, since I have definite descents from YR1, YR2 and YRB. I am > starting a Genealogy page on my site, and am looking for Amish or Yoder > links to add. If any of you have home pages that you would like listed > please let me know. Also let me know of any good internet resources that > you have found that help with Amish research. The address of the page is > http://www.wws.net/sbraman/genlink.html . It is very rough now, but will > smooth out as I have time to add to it. I'm looking forward to adding > what links that I can. > > Steven A. Braman > braman@wws.net > http://www.wws.net/sbraman > > ==== YODER Mailing List ==== > Haven't found a post of interest? > Why not generate one of your own? For those of you who tried to access my page and could not, please try again. Brooks Fiber was replacing the routers on the system I use last night, and it could not be accessed. Thanks Steven ==== YODER Mailing List ==== Have you visited the YODER NEWSLETTER ARCHIVES lately? http://www.genealogy.org/~yoder/

Hi, > Among the submissions in the Amish lines, there were multiple > folks sending in multiple Yoder lines..."winners" with seven > lines each are Steven Braman and Cindy Oyer, followed by six > for Dave Dickel and Linda Lantz Dahlberg and then five for > Karen Lint! Karen Lint also is descended from each of the Three Brothers? Zug, and three Kurtz's, just to keep things suitably complicated :) Karen ==== YODER Mailing List ==== Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own?

ginseng@sssnet.com wrote: > > Just wondered if I could ask for a break-down on the Amish lines. > Since there were 23 connections. I know there weren't very many > to my "Strong" Jacob (YR14), but it would be nice to see the Amish > break-down also. I did notice several YR1**** listed. At least, I > *think* Jacob was one of the Amish lines. (Esp since WE had the > most posters <G>) > Gin Of the 23 Amish Postings (some of which are multiple lines) the breakdown is as follows: YR12-xxxxx xxxxx xx 12 YR13-x 1 YR14-xxxx 4 YR15-xxxx 4 YR17-x 1 YR19-xxx 3 YR22-xxx 3 YR23-xxxxx xxxxx xxx 13 YR25-xxxxx x 6 YR26-xxxxx 5 YRB-xxxxx xx 7 YRC-x 1 ==== YODER Mailing List ==== Have you visited the YODER NEWSLETTER ARCHIVES lately? http://www.genealogy.org/~yoder/

Hello Yoders, It was good to see how everybody fits into the Yoder family. I see that I am related to all of the non Alsatian Amish Yoder's, since I have definite descents from YR1, YR2 and YRB. I am starting a Genealogy page on my site, and am looking for Amish or Yoder links to add. If any of you have home pages that you would like listed please let me know. Also let me know of any good internet resources that you have found that help with Amish research. The address of the page is http://www.wws.net/sbraman/genlink.html . It is very rough now, but will smooth out as I have time to add to it. I'm looking forward to adding what links that I can. Steven A. Braman braman@wws.net http://www.wws.net/sbraman ==== YODER Mailing List ==== Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own?

>It has been interesting to watch the "Roll Call" replies roll in! >As they've slowed down a bit, I thought it would be a good time to >do a summary....it gives a feel to what lines are currently >represented among the listserver members: > >Total number of people submitting: 49 > > Amish lines: 23 > Oley Line 6 > Melchior Line: 6 > Conrad Line: 5 > Mennonite Lines:4 > Alsatian Lines: 3 > Other 2 Just wondered if I could ask for a break-down on the Amish lines. Since there were 23 connections. I know there weren't very many to my "Strong" Jacob (YR14), but it would be nice to see the Amish break-down also. I did notice several YR1**** listed. At least, I *think* Jacob was one of the Amish lines. (Esp since WE had the most posters <G>) Gin

It has been interesting to watch the "Roll Call" replies roll in! As they've slowed down a bit, I thought it would be a good time to do a summary....it gives a feel to what lines are currently represented among the listserver members: Total number of people submitting: 49 Amish lines: 23 Oley Line 6 Melchior Line: 6 Conrad Line: 5 Mennonite Lines:4 Alsatian Lines: 3 Other 2 Among the submissions in the Amish lines, there were multiple folks sending in multiple Yoder lines..."winners" with seven lines each are Steven Braman and Cindy Oyer, followed by six for Dave Dickel and Linda Lantz Dahlberg and then five for Karen Lint!

House of Yoder,Inc., a non-profit organization building a Yoder House in a colonial-era style in Spruce Forest Artisan Village in Grantsville, MD, will hold its second annual meeting at Penn Alps (also in Grantsville, MD) this coming Saturday, November 8, 1997 from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. Agenda items include: sharing a brunch at the Penn Alps Restaurant, a tour of the Yoder House now under construction, a short business meeting and input from guest speaker, Jan Gleysteen, who will narrate a slide presentation entitled ³From Whence We Came: Retracing the Yoder Origins² as he reviews Yoder history in the European setting. House of Yoder, Inc. is currently building the Yoder House under the leadership of a 10 member executive committee. The house will contain Yoder-related historical documents, genealogical data, and family artifacts. One year, five year, and lifetime memberships in House of Yoder, Inc. are available to interested persons, especially those with the Yoder name and/or Yoder ancestry. Financial donations, as well as time and labor on the construction project, are welcomed. Information about the annual meeting, the Yoder House project and membership rates is available from Lonnie Yoder at 540-432-6467; e-mail: ltby@shentel.net; or 1066 Smith Avenue, Harrisonburg, VA 22802. Everyone is welcome at the annual meeting. Lonnie D. Yoder ==== YODER Mailing List ==== Have you visited the YODER NEWSLETTER ARCHIVES lately? http://www.genealogy.org/~yoder/

In YNL 30, The Oley Reunion Association announced plans to publish a cookbook of "Yoder Family Recipes". The cookbook will be sold as a fundraiser for the Pleasantville Union Cemetary. Mailed entries were requested with your name, address and origin of the recipe to: Alice Yoder, 433 Manor House Lane, Soudertown, Pa. 18964. Richard B. Yoder, President of the Reunion Association and member of this listserver mail group, can also receive recipes either through the "yoder-l" list, or directly at: ryoder@wcupa.edu To start things off through "Yoder-L" let me make the following offering: ======================================================= Phyllis Pamperien Yoder's Asheville Salad Mix and let sit a while in a bowl | one envelop gelatin | 1/2 cup water 1 can tomato soup 1 three oz cream cheese 1/2 cup chopped onion 1/2 cup chopped celery 1/2 cup chopped stuffed olives 1 cup mayonaise (1) Heat tomato soup and add gelatin (2) Then cream cheese & mix well until cheese is disolved (3) Cool a bit & add one cup mayonaise, mix well (4) add chopped vegetables, mix well (5) put into individual molds or one large mold. SOURCE: Phyllis Pamperien (Mrs. O.B.) Yoder, Saugatuck, Mi- wife of YR2337a241. ==== YODER Mailing List ==== Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own?

John W. Bieber, Bartol Research Institute wrote: > > Folks, I hope this won't be perceived as stirring up trouble, > but can anyone tell me what is the proof that Yost Yoder (OY), > who died in Oley 1741 or 1742, is the same as the Yost Yoder > born 5 Oct 1679 in Steffisburg ? > > I note that Oley Yost's 4 known children were born between > 1718 and 1735, which would mean Yost was aged between 39 and 56. > Certainly this is possible, but it seems more natural to suspect > that Oley Yost was of a later generation than the Yost born in > Steffisburg. > > Thanks in advance for any insights on this question. > > .. John Bieber > john@bartol.udel.edu > John...I think the best answer is given in the YNL 5 article by Dr. Don Yoder, the noted historian. Due to the work by Dr. Don, Hans seems well documented ...his links to Germany by will of a nephew leaving property to Hans' son Hans Jr in 1771....by the Speyer and church record showing the departure of his family to the "island of Pennsylvania"...his recoded widowhood and remarriage, etc... Yost has little documentation, but on this side of the ocean it has been long identified that Hans and Yost were brothers. Early family records documented by Bertolett in the early 1800s spoke to this relationship. This was known long before any of the European information began to be deciphered. The fact that their wills were filed together in 1742 supports this relationship. If born in 1679 and he died in 1742, Yost would have been in his early 60s...not terribly old. There is much yet to learn about Yosts family. Bertolett says he had three sons and one daughter....one of the sons isn't well established. The approximate births of his children... 1718-for Yost-Hannes; 1720- for Elizabeth, and particularly 1735 for Jacob...do seem a bit late....but Yost was known as a "frontiersman" and known to have had multiple wives.... it isn't out of line for a hearty and active 50 some year old to marry and father children... The recorded Steffisburg births of children of Hans and Yost's parents, Adam Joder and Barbli Oschenbein, extend through son Casper in 1683. They may have left about that time--I can't find them in my records there after that......and it is conceiveable that their son Jost born in Steffisburg dies and they had another of the same name at a later time...Adam was only 33 when Casper was born... I hope this helps a bit.. Chris Yoder

Answering the roll call. Here! Both my parents were Yoders by birth(yes, my mother's maiden name was Yoder), so I'll give both my paternal and maternal lines. Paternal line: (--?--) Yoder (YR) c. Christian Yoder (YR2) 1700-1775 Christian Yoder (YR23) 1728-1816 John Yoder YR239) 1772-1860 Abner Yoder (YR239b) 1814-1883 Gideon A. Yoder (YR239b8) 1855-1934 Arthur G. Yoder (YR239b82) 1883-1980 Gideon M. Yoder (twin) 1914-1995 Rodney L. Yoder (twin) 1940- Michael L. Yoder 1963- (THAT'S ME!) Maternal Line: [?Yost] Yoder (YRB) Peter Yoder (YRB6) 1773-1849 Solomon Yoder (YRB69) 1823-1903 Simon R. Yoder (YRB694) 1858-1943 Elba Joshua Yoder (YRB6941) 1886-1979 Chester Vernon Yoder (YRB69411) 1912- Eldora Elaine Yoder (YRB694113) 1943- Michael L. Yoder (YRB6941131) 1963-(THAT'S ME!) Cordially, Michael L. Yoder

Recently privately printed "The "Yoders" of Southwest, Pa. & The "Yoders" of Waynesburg,Pa."...beautifully bound compilation of research and collected information focusing on the descendants of Melchior Yoder who settled in SW PA and changed the spelling of their name to "Yoders". Many family photos and details particularly on the family of M234 George W. Yoders who married Elizabeth (Zehring) Pendleberry. Cost of book to include P&H is $55.For further information contact Carl M. Yoders, Flemington Garden Apartments Apt. #4A, Flemington, NJ 08822. (YNL Note- Carl has been a tireless researcher of this line over the last several years, and his efforts were instrumental in the making the links which have estblished the Yoders-Melchior connection-CKY).

I'm new to this and I don't know if I'm doing this right but here goes. 1. Samuel Yoder (1745-1806) 2. Michael Yoder (1788-1874) 3. Jacob M Yoder (1822-1894) 4. John S Yoder (1855-1932) 5. Abraham J Yoder (1893-197?) 6. Henry A Yoder (1924- ) 7. Timothy E. Yoder (1961- ) Me I live in Brewster, Ohio (Stark County) with my wife and 4 children. We are looking for any info on the Weatherholt surname. Thank you.