Dear List, Larry Taylor sent the following: ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Taylor <taylorle@swbell.net> To: 'Iris F Reily' <ifreily@earthlink.net>; YELTON-List <YELTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 17 January, 2003 22:02 PM Subject: RE: {not a subscriber} John Philip Yelton m. Harriet Tull Thanks so much for your help. In looking through the Yelton Archives, I see a better transcription of the marriage record of Philip Yelton and Harriet Tull. It looks like Samuel Tull (her father) actually bonded the marriage rather than gave consent. If I understand correctly, if you bond a marriage, you are attesting that the person marrying is of legal age and is otherwise qualified to be married. In Kentucky during this time I understand you were required to have both a bond and a marriage license to marry. I have also look at that May 25, 1825 date of death for Harriet for a while and tried to figure out how it could be transcribed differently in a way that would make sense with the other information given (like the 5 is really an 8 or something like that) and decided it was probably correct. My best guess (and only a guess) now is Harriet probably did die from complications of childbirth and Mary is her only child. John Phillip probably did remarry after shortly after Harriet's death and you are missing a wife between her and Esther. I still have not sorted out Harriet's ancestry beyond her father Samuel, but hope to do so. If anyone shows up looking for more information on her line, you can send them my way. Again thank you for your help. You Yelton's are great. Larry Taylor Kansas City, MO -----Original Message----- From: Iris F Reily [SMTP:iris@reily.org] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:33 AM To: YELTON-List; Larry Taylor Subject: Fw: {not a subscriber} John Philip Yelton m. Harriet Tull Hi Everyone, Larry would appreciate some help with this very confusing line. I'm not sure we have unearthed all of the information on this family. If you can help, please write to Larry directly at <taylorle@swbell.net> with a copy to the list. This is one mystery we should be able to solve. I have more info on the Caldwell (2nd marriage) line. There is clearly some misinformation here, so that it is hard to pick out the truth of the situation. Question: If her father had to give permission for her to marry, how old was Harriett when she married Phillip (or John Phillip) Yelton? Question: Did (John) Phillip have 2 wives or three? Question: Did Harriet have two children (Mary & Elizabeth) or was Elizabeth born to the 2nd wife? Question: When did Harriet die? Please help if you can, Iris --------------Original Message------------------ --- Larry Taylor <taylorle@swbell.net> wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:15:34 -0700 From: Larry Taylor <taylorle@swbell.net> To: "'yelton-l@rootsweb.com'" Subject: {not a subscriber} John Philip Yelton m. Harriet Tull I am researching the Tull family. Harriet Tull married Philip Yelton on March 25, 1824 in Campbell County, KY. Consent was given by Samuel Tull (who I believe was her father). Her grave is found in the Nagel Road Cemetery in Campbell County, KY. The inscription found on the Campbell county Web page reads "Yelton, Harriet-died 9 May 1825 age 27 wife of Phillip Yelton". This would make her born between May 10, 1797 and May 9, 1798. On the Yelton family web page (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yelton/phillip.htm#i4) indicates: 1. John Phillip1 Yelton; b. 2 Nov 1800 at KY; m.Harriet Tull 23 Mar 1824 at Campbell Co, KY; m. Esther Caldwell 21 Nov 1833 at Pendleton Co, KY; d. between Jan 1864 and Mar 1864 at Campbell Co, KY. John Phillip Yelton was the son of John M. Yelton and Anna Lambert <yelt_mn.htm>. Harriet Tull was born between 1800 and 1810. She died circa 1832. Children of John Phillip1 Yelton and Harriet Tull were as follows: 2. i. Mary Yelton, b. between 1825 and 1830; m. George B. Holmes. ii. Elizabeth Yelton; b. circa 1830; m. William Caldwell 22 Apr 1850 at Campbell County, KY. Either the transcription of the tombstone inscription or the account on the above website is incorrect . I suspect that the tombstone is incorrect because otherwise she would have been 26 when she married which seems a little old for the time and probably did not require her father's consent. I would appreciate hearing form anyone having any knowledge about Philip and Harriet or their descendants or the Tull's of Campbell County, KY. Larry Taylor Kansas City, MO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Answer - 17 January 2003 Hi Larry, You have picked a good one to question. This family has been a difficult one to sort out. I have sent your message on to the YELTON e-mail list, hoping that someone will be able to enlighten both (all) of us. I sent you a copy of that message as well. Cheryl, our cousin who is the webmaster and the folks on the List collaborate, but in this case there seems to be both too much and not enough to go on. One record has the 2nd marriage in 1833 and another in 1825. Your question about why the father would need to give permission if Harriet was 25 or 26 years old is a good one. I would only expect that to be necessary if she was under 16 years old. It has always seemed logical to me that Mary at least was Harriett's child. Elizabeth however, is less certain. If John Phillip married Hester (Hettie) Caldwell in Dec. 1825 as one record suggests, then Elizabeth should be Hettie's child. And, that would fit with the tombstone transcription that shows Harriet died 9 May 1825. To show you how confusing this line is, we thought for awhile there were two Phillip Yelton's and two Hester Caldwell's. That does not appear to be true however. I do hope someone on the List is able to help. Harriet is the only Tull I have in my files, but I will keep you on my list in case we find some more. Iris List Admin - Yelton-L@Rootsweb.com iris@reily.org