I'm not sure how much help I can be, but here's what I've got. The 1830 Census for Campbell County, KY, p. 255, shows Phillip Yelton (age 30-40) as head of a household consisting of a female age 20-30, a male age 10-15 (no idea who this is), and 2 females under 5. John Phillip Yelton (s/o John Yelton & Anna Lambert) m. 1st Harriet Tull on 23 Mar 1824 in Campbell County, KY. Harriet died 9 May 1825 & is buried in the Nagel Road Cemetery. I believe Mary (b. ca. 1825) was the only child of this marriage and that Harriet died in childbirth or very shortly thereafter. (After her half-sister died, Mary married George B. Holmes on 27 Dec 1848.) Mary is mentioned as Mary Holmes in her father's will. If anyone has access to the 1850 Census & can find George & Mary it would give us a better idea of Mary's age & which wife she belongs to. m. 2nd ?? b. ca. 1800-1810, d. ca. 1830-1833 [I believe there was a wife between Harriet & Esther because there's an adult female in the household in the 1830 Census and because at least two children (Harriet & Elizabeth) were born after Harriet Tull's death and before the marriage to Esther Caldwell. Note that it is extremely common to name a child of spouse #2 for deceased spouse #1. However, I have never seen a second marriage record in Campbell County for Phillip Yelton, and apparently neither has anyone compiling Campbell Co marriages.] The children of this marriage were, I think: 1. Harriet (b. ca. 1826, md. George B. Holmes 6 Nov 1845 & d. 28 Oct 1846. (The cemetery transcription says 28 Oct 1816 but I think that's either a typo or a misreading of the inscription. None of the other graves are that old & the inscription says age 20 years wife of George B. Holmes. If she was 20 when she died, then she can't be Harriet Tull's child.) 2. Elizabeth (b. ca. 1830, m. William Caldwell 22 April 1850). Elizabeth's father consented to her marriage, which indicates that she was underage. m. 3rd Esther Caldwell, 21 Nov. 1833 in Pendleton County, KY Children of this marriage were John J. (b. ca. 1834), Missouri (b. ca. 1836), and Amelia Jane (b. ca. 1839). I think it would help if we knew more about the John C. Caldwell will. When was it written (as opposed to recorded)? If, as Burnetta seems to think, Hetty the daughter of John was Phillip's second wife, why isn't she referred to as deceased in her father's will as her brother Mathew is? That is why I'd like to know when the will was written. If the will was written before Hetty's death (sometime before Nov 1833) perhaps her father didn't bother to change it after she died. In going over all this, I can see some holes, particularly in assigning the children. I wish I could help more, but ancestry.com seems to be down this afternoon. Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iris F Reily" <dmreily@compuserve.com> To: "Kathryn Weiss" <buckeye@thegrid.net>; "Beth Shields" <Gosney7@aol.com>; "Cheryl G Chasin" <CherylC470@att.net> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 12:20 AM Subject: HELP Fw: Yeltons/Caldwell > Dear Beth, Cheryl and Kathy > I know this is long and possibly confusing, but I'd like some > input about this Phillip Yelton/Hetty Caldwell mess Burnetta > and I seem to have. Any and all help appreciated. There is > another message today (31 Aug 2001) which I will forward > to you all seperately. Thanks for taking a look at this mess. > Love & Hugs, > Iris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Clarence Flairty <cw.whaler@worldnet.att.net> > To: Iris F Reily <dmreily@compuserve.com> > Sent: Saturday, 26 May, 2001 11:25 AM > Subject: Yeltons/Caldwell > > Received your most welcome information on Jasper and Dora Ann Yelton. Had heard her mentioned frequently, (especially by Amy Grant > of Butler). > We knew Finnell, Beulah and Wood well. I grew up in the Alexander L. Caldwell home near Greenwood. Carrie Caldwell Acton was my > grandmother, and Mabel Acton Brownfield, my mother, owned the farm. > Now, another request for help. > I have two marriages involving two Phillip Yeltons and two Hetty (Esther, > Hester, etc.), Caldwells from the same generation. > In John Caldwell's Will, under date of 10/8/1835, he names a daughter > Hester married to Phil Yelton. (Campbell Co. records). > The Barton papers of Pend. Co. list a Phillip Yelton born 11/2/1800 in > Bourbon Co. married to Hester Caldwell, born abt 1805; on 12/7/1825. Hester, the daughter of William Caldwell & Betsy Gosney > Caldwell of Demossville, KY. > Campbell Co. marriage records lists Hester Caldwell, d/o John Caldwell, > married 11/21/1833(?) to Phillip Yelton, his second marriage. > Add to this, in the research both Phillips often have the same parents, > John M., Ann Lambert Yelton of Harrison Co. I've followed the census > records - 1850 up and I'm still confused! > > Thanks again, Burnetta > **************************** > ----- Original Message Response to above--------- > From: Iris F Reily <dmreily@compuserve.com> > To: Clarence Flairty <cw.whaler@worldnet.att.net> > Sent: Sunday, 22 July, 2001 23:20 PM > Subject: Re: Yeltons/Caldwell > > > Hi Burnetta, > > Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. Our children > and grandchildren came for a visit and we all went to the beach. > The first time we've tried that kind of a get together. I went very > well, except that Grandpa and I kind of collapsed afterward. In > addition we have an 'old' house we are trying to get fixed up to > sell. What a mess.... Enought excuses! > > I'll try to address the issue of Hetty/Hester Caldwell and > John Phillip Yelton. It is a rather complicated mess, made > more so by some published misinformation (I believe). > > I think the Barton papers are flat out wrong about the date > of marriage. The date of 21 Nov 1833 is well documented in > the General Index to Marriages for Pendleton Co., KY. The > License was issued 19 Nov 1833 and they were married > on 21 Nov 1833, file #6, document 73, Vol. 1, page 210. > > I do think John Phillip Yelton's birth date in the Barton > papers is correct. 21 Nov 1800. Part of the problem is > that he seems to go by Phil, Phillip and John Phillip. > He is buried in Persimmon Grove Cemetery, Campbell Co., KY , > having died 7 Feb 1864. > > He was first married to Harriett Tull who died 9 May 1825 > leaving two young children. He married her 23 Mar 1824. > Mary and Elizabeth I believe. Elizabeth married while under > age and her father had to give his consent. It's recorded. > > Now concerning Hetty/Hester. I show her parents as William > Caldwell and Unknown. That may be incorrect. To my knowledge, > Hester is mentioned both in her husband's will and in her > father-in-law's will (John M. Yelton married to Anna Lambert). > I don't think I have seen John Caldwell's Will of 8 Oct 1835. > (I wonder, could he have been John William Caldwell?) > > It is confusing, but I believe that there is only one set of > John Phillip and Hetty/Hester Caldwell Yeltons. The facts seem > to point to that and to my having the wrong father for her. > > As soon as one of my cousins gets back from her vacation, > I'll tackle her about William and Betsy Gosney Caldwell of > Demossville, KY. She is a Gosney/Yelton expert but she may > also have a bit more info on this family. > > Reading back over this it doesn't sound too helpful. But, I'll > keep working on it. I'll let you know if I find anything new. > I've included a short descendancy chart, if you want more > information on anyone, please let me know. > > Happy Hunting, > Iris > dmreily@compuserve.com > > ((Seems I skipped the descendancy chart...sigh...another of > those senior moments.))Iris 28 Aug 2001 > **************** > > ----- Second Original Message ----- > From: Clarence Flairty <cw.whaler@worldnet.att.net> > To: Iris F Reily <dmreily@compuserve.com> > Sent: Monday, 27 August, 2001 16:40 PM > Subject: Re: Yelton/Caldwell > > Iris, > > Help! The Yelton/Caldwell marriage grows even more confusing. > I still am not comfortable with some of the information we have developed. > Read and study what I have, and hopefully we will be able to discard all but > the facts. > > First; You are evidently not aware of the John C. Caldwell Will, recorded in > Campbell Co. Court Records on the date of 10/8/1835. ( In loose Box, copied > in WB C page 28 - exec - son Alexander and Samuel Baker). > John C. Caldwell was brother to Robert Caldwell (Campbell Co) and William > Caldwell Sr. ( Pendleton Co). > In his will he states children as Alexander Caldwell, Mathew > Caldwell(deceased - his children William and Margaret), Hetty Yelton, > Cynthia Reddick, Polly McCollom, Betsy Reddick and Dosha Maddox. > > John Phillip Yelton's first marriage to Harriett Tull, 3/23/1824, and died > 5/9/1825 - leaving two small children. In that period of time, were they > twins??? or a miracle. > > Reference (MAJ) I have a Mary Yelton born 8/3/1828 or 1825, married to > George B. Holmes, 11/6/1845. > I have Elizabeth Yelton, born 9/10/1830, married William Caldwell 4/22/1850 > in Campbell Co. > > In fact I have a number of children born after Tull's death and before > Phillip's second marriage. > 1. John Jackson Yelton, born 8/30/1832, married Margaret Ciphronia Gosney, > d/o Pollard and Patience Gosney. > > 2. Missouri ?? Yelton, circ. 1836. > > 3. Amelia Jane Yelton, circ 1839, married Daniel Samuel Caldwell. > > 1850 Pendleton Co census, Butler Pct. 9/19/1850, > Phillip H. Yelton - 49 ( born 11/21/1800). > Hetty Yelton -45 > children: John Jackson Yelton - 18, > Missouri (Mary or Margaret, maybe) -16, > Amelia Jane Yelton -12, > James Yelton -22........Farm laborer > John Yelton -77, > Notice the middle initial H. > > 1870 Census, Grants Lick, Campbell Co., pg 23, 9/22/1870 > Daniel Samuel Caldwell -40 > Amelia Jane Caldwell - 31 > children: Edward Caldwell -9 > Clement Caldwell -3 > Cora Caldwell -1 > > As to parents of Hester/ Hetty: > Yes, there was a Hetty, d/o of William Sr. and Elizabeth Gosney Caldwell. > In my search, I have no John William Caldwell during that period. > > Hopefully, We will be able to work out a closure to this issue. > > Burnetta I live in PA but still a Kentuckian. > > > **************** > ----- Second Original Message Answer----- > From: Iris F Reily <dmreily@compuserve.com> > To: Clarence Flairty <cw.whaler@worldnet.att.net> > Sent: Tuesday, 28 August, 2001 2:37 AM > Subject: Re: Yelton/Caldwell > > Hi Burnetta, > Wow! This really is confusing. If it is OK with you, I'd like > to send your message to Cheryl and Beth and Kathy who > may have more information on this branch. I have a lot, > but may have some of it confused. Have you been able > to find J. Phillip and family in the 1860 Census? > > I'm sending my descendancy chart for John Phillip it seems > I didn't attach it when I sent you the last message. I think they > make it easier to compare our information. > > Let me know if it is ok to forward your e-mail to some other > cousins. > Iris > > Descendants of John Phillip YELTON > > 1 [1] John Phillip YELTON b: 02 Nov 1800 in Paris, Bourbon Co., KY > d: 07 Feb 1864 in Campbell Co., KY > . +Harriat TULL b: Abt. 1798 d: 09 May 1825 m: 23 Mar 1824 > in Campbell Co., KY > 2 Mary YELTON > .... +[2] George B. HOLMES m: 27 Dec 1848 in or 1849? > Campbell Co., KY > ... 3 Florence HOLMES > ....... +C. B. SCHOOLFIELD m: 1868 > ...... 4 Clarence SCHOOLFIELD > ...... 4 Pearl SCHOOLFIELD > ...... 4 Raymond SCHOOLFIELD > 2 Elizabeth YELTON > .... +William CALDWELL m: 22 Apr 1850 in Campbell Co., KY > *2nd Wife of [1] John Phillip YELTON: > . +Hester (Esther) CALDWELL b: 25 Dec 1799 in Pendleton Co., KY > m: 21 Nov 1833 in Pendleton Co., KY > Father: William CALDWELL Mother: Unknown > 2 Harriet YELTON b: 21 Oct 1835 in Pendleton Co., KY > .... +[2] George B. HOLMES m: 06 Nov 1845 in Campbell Co., KY > ??2 Mary YELTON b: 03 Aug 1837 in Pendleton Co., KY ?? > ??2 Elizabeth YELTON b: 10 Sep 1839 in Pendleton Co., KY?? > ((Why would there be two children named Mary and two Elizabeths > in this family. Doesn't make sense. )) > 2 John Jackson YELTON b: 03 Aug 1842 in Pendleton Co., KY > .... +Margaret Ciphronia GOSNEY b: 16 Jan 1837 in Campbell Co., KY > m: 20 Nov 1858 in Campbell Co., KY > Father: Pollard GOSNEY Mother: Patience WRIGHT > ... 3 [3] Margaret YELTON > ....... +Charles E. POSEY > ... *2nd Husband of [3] Margaret YELTON: > ....... +Andrew Elston GOSNEY m: 23 Jun 1898 > ... 3 Flora YELTON > ....... +Leslie C. JONES > ... 3 Albert YELTON > ....... +Bertha PORTER > ... 3 Carrie YELTON > ....... +George Francis 'Frank' BARNARD m: 1884 > 2 Missoura YELTON b: 1844 in Pendleton Co., KY > 2 [4] Amelia Jane YELTON b: 1846 in Pendleton Co., KY > .... +Daniel CALDWELL m: Abt. 1859 in Pendleton Co., KY > ... 3 Edwin CALDWELL b: 17 May 1861 d: 20 Feb 1947 > ....... +Minnie Jane JENNER b: 29 May 1869 in Campbell Co., Ky > d: 31 Dec 1937 m: 27 Oct 1897 Father: John James JENNER > Mother: Frances Lousia GOSNEY > ...... 4 Edwin Wayne CALDWELL > .......... +Ora Clemens > ...... 4 Byron Lee CALDWELL b: 15 May 1899 d: 1973 in Grant's Lick, > Campbell Co., KY > *2nd Husband of [4] Amelia Jane YELTON: > .... +Hezekiah DUNN m: 20 Mar 1867 in Pendleton Co., KY > Father: Obijah DUNN Mother: Nancy CLEMMONS > ***************** > > > > >