Van Horne is an extremely rare surname, after three years, we have 15 participants whose surname actually is some version of Van Horne. The primary objective of the project is to identify the genetic pedigrees of the three immigrants to New Netherlands whose descendants adopted this surname. So far we have identified the genetic pedigree of Christian Barentsen and Matthys Cornelissen. There have been no descendants of Jan Cornelissen who have joined the project---this line may have daughtered out. We have conventional documentation identifying the place of origin for Christian Barentsen as probably Hoorn, Terschelling, Friesland. The probable place of origin for Matthys Cornelissen is Horne, Hjorring, Jutland, Denmark. There is also a Horne, in Ribe, Jutland, Denmark, so this place of origin requires some flexibility of throught. We have three other individuals with the Van Horne surname. Two do not descend from the above named individuals. The remaining individual has only tested 12 markers, which in my opinion is too few draw conclusions as to a common ancestor. Participants in this project have to receive permission to join. I have found that discussing with potential project members what they hope to achieve by joining, and how many markers they intend to test, before they actually sign up, gives actual project members a better idea of what to expect as far as their genealogy is concerned. I want to point out the test results for related individuals seems to come back in three groups, those with NO mutations, those with a FEW mutations and those with mutations like zits on a teenager. In the instance of NO and FEW mutation, you have almost no way of telling how the individuals are related, you just know the are. In the instances where related individuals have LOTS of mutations, you can actually draw conclusions on how they might be related. On this point, I draw your attention to the descendants of Matthys Cornelissen. All nine of these individuals have done 67 marker tests, eight of which are complete. For CDYa and 537, a fast and an slow marker, the first five men show 35 and 11 repeats respectively and the last three show 34 and 10 respectively. For 460 and GATA H4, both slow mutating markers, the first five show 11 and 10 respectively and the last three show 12 and 11 respectively. One individual in the first five has a back mutation on GATA H4 to 9 and one individual in the last three shows a possible back mutation on 460. The conventional paper trail on these eight individuals show that the first five descend from Abraham Van Horn, and the last three from Cornelius Van Horen, repectively the younger and older sons of Matthys Cornelissen. Combining the distribution of the mutations, with the conventional paper trail, it is actually possible to create a genetic pedigree showing how the individuals relate to one another. One note of caution, that is how things are today. It is entirely possible that with more test results, the branches on the genetic pedigree will change. To look at these test results, go to www.familytreedna.com/public/VanHorne and click on yresults. Marleen Van Horne