Yes my shorthand was a bit short :)))) I have reworded it below bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <DianaGM@dgmweb.net> To: <y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 6:30 AM Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-projects] WAMH vis-a-vis CMA > I'm not certain I understand you, Bob. What is a "pretty close mirror" at > 37? > Demes 2 and 3? Depending on how you count CDYa/b, which is prone to > multi-step > mutations, the genetic distance between Deme 2 and Deme 3 is *at least* 13 > at 37 > markers, which is a decided non-match. > > http://www.familytreedna.com/genetic-distance-markers.aspx?testtype=37 > > Diana > >> Interesting run down >>at 12 Markers Deme 1, 2 look to be very closly related, Deme 3 fairly >>closley related and Deme 4 not related at all at 25 markers Deme 1 moves away from Deme 2 and 3 start to shift away from each other at 37 the 4 groups are split apart within Deme 1 is they are still close to each other and within Deme 2 are failrly close at 37 Both groups are still a pretty close miror of the 37 marker results >> >> bob >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <DianaGM@dgmweb.net> >> To: <y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:51 PM >> -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 4473 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message