Yes, now I understand. Thank you, Bob. And, yes, the members of Deme 1 are well matched with each other, and the members of Deme 2 are well matched with each other, all the way to 67 markers. That's what you're looking for in R1b. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-projects- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob May > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 2:13 AM > To: y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-projects] WAMH vis-a-vis CMA > > Yes my shorthand was a bit short :)))) > I have reworded it below > bob > > <snip>> > > >> Interesting run down > >>at 12 Markers Deme 1, 2 look to be very closly related, Deme 3 fairly > >>closley related and Deme 4 not related at all > at 25 markers Deme 1 moves away from Deme 2 and 3 start to shift away from > each other > at 37 the 4 groups are split apart > within Deme 1 is they are still close to each other and within Deme 2 are > failrly close at 37 > Both groups are still a pretty close miror of the 37 marker results > >> > >> bob