In six years of running six projects, I've only once had someone join just to get the discount -- and I didn't have to kick him out because he left the project as soon as his results returned, which is what told me that must have been the reason he joined. That is not the reason I require authorization to join. I require authorization to join for two reasons: 1. To screen out inappropriate requests to join, such as being the wrong gender or not being descended from the appropriate ancestor on a direct line. In my Danish geographic project, I weed out people who only suspect they are Danish because I require a proven Danish origin to join, which means two-out-of-three applicants to Danish Demes are disallowed. Having "Viking" ancestry seems to be a favorite family legend, so I get a lot of requests with no foundation. Do I really want all these disallowed requests piling up on my GAP? Nearly all the males requesting to join a geographic project have already been tested for their surname project, so I'm not standing in the way of them being tested or preventing them from getting a group discount. I'm just making certain their patrilineal line ancestor is really Danish. And do I really want their test results showing up on the FTDNA web site, immediately, so they're online while their request is being resolved? -- which may be days or weeks or maybe never if they don't respond to my emails. If all you run is Y-DNA surname projects, you may not be needing the level of screening I need because few of your applicants will have already been tested. And you can see from their name that they're male and the right surname, so letting them in is a slam dunk. 2. To get their lineages, without which their results are useless. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-projects- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RT > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:36 PM > To: y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [Y-DNA-projects] Y-DNA-PROJECTS join authorization > > I agree with Bob's outlook. > > It is human nature for the admin to become upset when the person joining takes > advantage of the project to solely gain a tiny discount. Some admins more than others. > But it's only a tiny discount after all, not worth getting upset about. People will be > people (which often is not saying much). > > And I'm going back immediately to my largely ignored Ancestry.com sub-project and > post that if you are not tested OR don't provide a pedigree you WILL be removed from > membership in the project. > > Richard Thrift > > > ---- Bob May <tpibob44@bigpond.com> wrote: > That is all very well when everything is working properly. > BUT until the system is fixed to enabled life to return to normal you are all finding > reasons why not to use a facility that is available to you. > I have used it in my project, and without any recriminations from the participant. It is a > matter of not what you do but how you do it. > I would rather have a doubtful member join until data is available to sort out where they > belong and help them by guiding them to where they should go and x them from your > project where they do not belong Bob