OK, I found where it is as a checked box under "project profile" after "Allow Order without join request?" that can't be unchecked. Is everyone's project like this, being checked without a way of changing it? I know FTDNA is trying to crack down on administrators that don't respond to requests, but I have had ZERO joins (or requests) since Gap 2.0. Before that I always responded to requests the same day, and approved them if they included an earliest ancestor or lineage. If they didn't, it was usually a female that was requesting, and I wrote to the e-mail they provided and asked if they had a male that they were going to have test (in which case I would approve them), or if they were asking to "join" because they thought that was what they needed to do to see results (like at Ancestry.com). About 95% of those I never heard back from, so I assume they either didn't have someone to test (so they weren't going to order one) or they just wanted to see the results which I had provided the page for them to see those. Maybe FTDNA took my not either approving the request (since they weren't ordering a test kit) or not declining their request as ignoring them. Since they never responded to my question if they had a male to test, I saw no need to "decline" their request. I wrote this explanation to FTDNA under "Feedback." Is there anything else I should do to get the ability to require a join request back? Did they do this to everyone, or just single out some people, and if so why me???? I'm not one of the people who was letting requests pile up. I wasn't ignoring people by not approving or declining them. If they were taken care of in private e-mail, I saw no need to "decline" their request through the FTDNA site. This has me extremely upset to the point of wanting to quit being an administrator (feeling unappreciated by FTDNA), but I know if I did these projects would suffer through the same lack of an administrator they had before I took over. End of rant. Rick Saunders _____ From: y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fredric Z. Saunders Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:25 PM To: y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com Subject: [Y-DNA-projects] How do you close automatic joins? Before Gap 2.0 I had all my projects set that a person had to request to join (so I could get their lineage) before approving their request. I have now found that all of my projects now are "open" and anyone can join without ever contacting me or sending any information on their lineage. I have gone through all the "Project Administration" links on Gap 2.0 and I don't see how to change it back to requiring approval. Where am I missing how to do this? Rick Saunders

I second your rant. The box is greyed out on my GAPs, too. I have been requiring permission to join, and I respond to join requests promptly -- immediately, if I'm at my computer, within a day if not. When I began my projects, I allowed people to join without permission, and it was a disaster. Some of these members still have not supplied linages, despite numerous requests. If we can't use permission to join as a lever to get a member's lineage, it's going to have a seriously detrimental affect on the quality of my projects. At the very least, it means more work for me: 1) by having to hound them for their lineage and/or 2) by having to "do" the person's genealogy and supply the lineage, myself. Do I not donate enough time and labor to my projects as it is? Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-projects- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fredric Z. Saunders > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 1:12 AM > To: y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-projects] How do you close automatic joins? > > OK, I found where it is as a checked box under "project profile" after "Allow Order > without join request?" that can't be unchecked. Is everyone's project like this, being > checked without a way of changing it? I know FTDNA is trying to crack down on > administrators that don't respond to requests, but I have had ZERO joins (or requests) > since Gap 2.0. > > Before that I always responded to requests the same day, and approved them if they > included an earliest ancestor or lineage. If they didn't, it was usually a female that was > requesting, and I wrote to the e-mail they provided and asked if they had a male that > they were going to have test (in which case I would approve them), or if they were asking > to "join" because they thought that was what they needed to do to see results (like at > Ancestry.com). About 95% of those I never heard back from, so I assume they either > didn't have someone to test (so they weren't going to order one) or they just wanted to > see the results which I had provided the page for them to see those. Maybe FTDNA took > my not either approving the request (since they weren't ordering a test kit) or not > declining their request as ignoring them. Since they never responded to my question if > they had a male to test, I saw no need to "decline" their request. > > I wrote this explanation to FTDNA under "Feedback." Is there anything else I should do to > get the ability to require a join request back? Did they do this to everyone, or just single > out some people, and if so why me???? I'm not one of the people who was letting > requests pile up. I wasn't ignoring people by not approving or declining them. If they > were taken care of in private e-mail, I saw no need to "decline" their request through the > FTDNA site. > > This has me extremely upset to the point of wanting to quit being an administrator > (feeling unappreciated by FTDNA), but I know if I did these projects would suffer > through the same lack of an administrator they had before I took over. End of rant. > > Rick Saunders > _____