LOL!  I'm a project Admin on both companies for my surname and I have to say that Ancestry.com's  DNA projects are a mess. No matter what you put in the project description at Ancestry  people join with little or no understanding of what a Y DNA project is or what it can or can't do.  Like "Can you tell me if I'm eligible for a tribal roll" which has Nothing to do with our surname or project.  I specifically say you need to be tested to join and 90% of the join requests have no testing or tests ordered.  I encourage anyone who asks to go to FTDNA to test.  They are easier to deal with as an Admin and the whole process is transparent to me the admin from start to finish.  In Ancestry I just get random results dumped on me and over 100 join requests from clueless people want to join my project.  In addition as a poster I get about 1 email a month from someone along the lines of it looks like we are related from our DNA posted on Ancestry.com.  They give no details and no matter how I work my replies I get no response back.   I finally figured out that they are thinking anyone who posts results or has them tested with Ancestry with the same surname is related no matter what the result is.  It is maddening.  I worked for over a year to try and bring some order to that project and finally gave up.  I now let anyone join who wants no matter how odd the request and I let anyone post their results or not.  Anyone with my surname who posts results on Ancestry gets asked by me if I can post their results on my other project. My project is hosted at World Families Network so I can post any result there.  FTDNA on the other hand has been totally supportive to me as an Admin.  The whole process from adding new members, to ordering the tests, the step by step testing process and the final reporting is seamless and painless for me as the admin.  The website is easy to use.  I think if you were an Admin at FTDNA you would see what a joy it is to admin a project there.  As someone who does both the choice is not even close. I'm sorry but I'll take FTDNA over the chaos of Ancestry anytime. Randall Stafford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Acree" <acreegenealogy@sbcglobal.net> To: y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, December 3, 2010 5:09:28 PM Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-projects] join authorization It sound like FTDNA is injudiciously biting the hands that have so obligingly fed it.  Please excuse me for rubbing it in, but we simply don't have such problems with our projects (called "groups') at Ancestry.com. As project administrator there, I exercise full approval authority.  I'm able to display test results in multiple configurations that I consider helpful. And I fully control material contributed to our group's home page.  It's rare when things don't run smoothly; and when they don't, we enjoy the benefit of consistently friendly, responsive and cooperative assistance.  Moreover, searches for matches are far easier within Ancestry.com's public data base, and we have the benefit of a superior lab, which provides us more precise test results (including partial STR repeats when applicable) in convenient numerical order. Charles Acree ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message