Perhaps as administrator of that project his goal is simply to make a discount available to people from his large surname group, then letting them do what they want with the results and matches. As has been pointed out, anyone can set up any group for almost any purpose. Maybe he or she is not interested in a surname study the way many of us think of it. Just a hypothesis in the context of the notion that people may set up projects for all different reasons. Martha Bowes On Dec 7, 2010, at 1:01 AM, y-dna-projects-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > There's a major project on FTDNA (one of the top ten surnames in the US in terms > of frequency), who does not subgroup his members, at all, even by haplogroup. > He only subgroups a member if *the member* tells him what group he belongs in or > that a group needs to be created. How's that for a "passive" management style?! > > Diana

I don't think it matters what his motives were, it's the result that matters. He has monopolized a major surname -- one that is in horrific need of research and revisions -- and is doing absolutely nothing with the results. Worse, yet, he's making it difficult for anyone else to accomplish anything. He could at least subgroup the members by haplogroup. He hasn't even turned on the mapping feature. If someone just wants to be a "figurehead" taking tickets at the door, they should pass their project on to someone with a desire to do more. This is a common surname, and according to FTDNA, as of now, 890 people with this surname have been tested. If you check the surname project, only 465 have joined it. Where can I view these other results? This is not only unfair to researchers of this surname, it has to be a drag on FTDNA's business. If I were a novice to DNA testing and came to FTDNA looking at what I could do by testing this surname, I would go away thinking it wasn't worth the expense. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-projects- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Martha H. Bowes > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:42 AM > To: y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-projects] keeping projects updated > > Perhaps as administrator of that project his goal is simply to make a discount available > to people from his large surname group, then letting them do what they want with the > results and matches. As has been pointed out, anyone can set up any group for almost > any purpose. Maybe he or she is not interested in a surname study the way many of us > think of it. Just a hypothesis in the context of the notion that people may set up projects > for all different reasons. > > Martha Bowes > > > On Dec 7, 2010, at 1:01 AM, y-dna-projects-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > There's a major project on FTDNA (one of the top ten surnames in the > > US in terms of frequency), who does not subgroup his members, at all, even by > haplogroup. > > He only subgroups a member if *the member* tells him what group he > > belongs in or that a group needs to be created. How's that for a "passive" management > style?! > > > > Diana > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-PROJECTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message