If you are a project admin and you have not tried out the new GAP, you may want to do so because we have a limited amount of time to supply feedback. I just sent this message to FTDNA: ============================================= I have always kept an Excel spreadsheet to manage my projects; and, in my regional project, I have kept separate worksheets for Y-DNA and mtDNA results. The ability to get a Paternal Ancestry list and a Maternal Ancestry list should be a great help -- or would be, except... Everyone is included on both lists, even people who should not be displayed (who are not eligible on that side of their ancestry). Please SUPRESS the names of people who shouldn't be displayed from the Paternal Ancestry or Maternal Ancestry list. Otherwise, I don't find these lists any more useful than the old, single list. In fact less so, for another reason... I used to be able to tell who was and was not eligible from the membership roster -- if necessary, by checking the person's Notes by hovering my cursor over them. Now I have to go to a separate display page, a page where my Notes are no longer visible -- it's in the Notes where I place the information needed to decide whether to display results or not. I cannot rely on the Country of Origin entered by the member as many give an unproven location as their origin. If you must list everyone in the Paternal and Maternal Lists, then please at least add a column indicating whether their results are displayed, or not, and allow us to sort on that column, so the ineligible ones are separated from the eligible ones. Obviously, none of this is a problem in a surname project, but it's an acute problem in a regional project, especially one like mine where the regional criterion is strict. ============================================== There are some good things in the new GAP, like being able to put Kit numbers in true alphanumeric order. However, as it stands, I will hang on to using the old GAP as long as I can. Diana

Hi Diana, How long do we have to give feedback? I have sent three emails to Family Tree DNA regarding problems. I am waiting for a reply to my last one. If you are a project administrator, check to see that your name and email address are displayed properly on your public webpage at Family Tree DNA. On one of the projects I administrate, there is now no name listed on the public webpage just an email address. So, we have no administrator's name or co-administrator's name or email address. Family Tree DNA had a problem in recent years with making changes to administration in projects due, I think, to software configurations and this seems to have come back to bite them. Regards, Margaret Jordan On 04/09/2010 14:49, Diana Gale Matthiesen wrote: > If you are a project admin and you have not tried out the new GAP, you may want > to do so because we have a limited amount of time to supply feedback. I just > sent this message to FTDNA: > > ============================================= > > I have always kept an Excel spreadsheet to manage my projects; and, in my > regional project, I have kept separate worksheets for Y-DNA and mtDNA results. > The ability to get a Paternal Ancestry list and a Maternal Ancestry list should > be a great help -- or would be, except... > > Everyone is included on both lists, even people who should not be displayed (who > are not eligible on that side of their ancestry). Please SUPRESS the names of > people who shouldn't be displayed from the Paternal Ancestry or Maternal > Ancestry list. Otherwise, I don't find these lists any more useful than the > old, single list. In fact less so, for another reason... > > I used to be able to tell who was and was not eligible from the membership > roster -- if necessary, by checking the person's Notes by hovering my cursor > over them. Now I have to go to a separate display page, a page where my Notes > are no longer visible -- it's in the Notes where I place the information needed > to decide whether to display results or not. I cannot rely on the Country of > Origin entered by the member as many give an unproven location as their origin. > > If you must list everyone in the Paternal and Maternal Lists, then please at > least add a column indicating whether their results are displayed, or not, and > allow us to sort on that column, so the ineligible ones are separated from the > eligible ones. > > Obviously, none of this is a problem in a surname project, but it's an acute > problem in a regional project, especially one like mine where the regional > criterion is strict. > > ============================================== > > There are some good things in the new GAP, like being able to put Kit numbers in > true alphanumeric order. However, as it stands, I will hang on to using the old > GAP as long as I can. > > Diana > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Well, we can always give feedback, but somewhere I got the idea (can't find the email, maybe I'm dreaming) that we had a couple of weeks to give feedback on the new GAP, then they were going to launch, with no going back to the old one. If I'm wrong on this, someone please correct me. FTDNA is notorious for problems with the GAP pages. A couple of years ago, they upgraded it so disastrously that they gave up on it. Then last year, they upgraded it again, and few people liked or used the upgrade, so here we go again. That's one reason I think it's important that we give the new one a try and give them feedback on it. You should have control over both the admin's name and email address from the GAP. I would give the steps how, except that the FTDNA web site appears to be down, entirely, and has been for the last hour or so. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-projects- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Jordan > Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 10:17 AM > To: y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-projects] feedback on new GAP 2.0 beta > > Hi Diana, > > How long do we have to give feedback? > > I have sent three emails to Family Tree DNA regarding problems. I am waiting for a > reply to my last one. If you are a project administrator, check to see that your name > and email address are displayed properly on your public webpage at Family Tree > DNA. On one of the projects I administrate, there is now no name listed on the public > webpage just an email address. So, we have no administrator's name or co- > administrator's name or email address. > > Family Tree DNA had a problem in recent years with making changes to > administration in projects due, I think, to software configurations and this seems to > have come back to bite them. > > Regards, > Margaret Jordan > > On 04/09/2010 14:49, Diana Gale Matthiesen wrote: > > If you are a project admin and you have not tried out the new GAP, you > > may want to do so because we have a limited amount of time to supply > > feedback. I just sent this message to FTDNA: > > > > ============================================= > > > > I have always kept an Excel spreadsheet to manage my projects; and, in > > my regional project, I have kept separate worksheets for Y-DNA and mtDNA results. > > The ability to get a Paternal Ancestry list and a Maternal Ancestry > > list should be a great help -- or would be, except... > > > > Everyone is included on both lists, even people who should not be > > displayed (who are not eligible on that side of their ancestry). > > Please SUPRESS the names of people who shouldn't be displayed from the > > Paternal Ancestry or Maternal Ancestry list. Otherwise, I don't find > > these lists any more useful than the old, single list. In fact less so, for another > reason... > > > > I used to be able to tell who was and was not eligible from the > > membership roster -- if necessary, by checking the person's Notes by > > hovering my cursor over them. Now I have to go to a separate display > > page, a page where my Notes are no longer visible -- it's in the Notes > > where I place the information needed to decide whether to display > > results or not. I cannot rely on the Country of Origin entered by the member as > many give an unproven location as their origin. > > > > If you must list everyone in the Paternal and Maternal Lists, then > > please at least add a column indicating whether their results are > > displayed, or not, and allow us to sort on that column, so the > > ineligible ones are separated from the eligible ones. > > > > Obviously, none of this is a problem in a surname project, but it's an > > acute problem in a regional project, especially one like mine where > > the regional criterion is strict. > > > > ============================================== > > > > There are some good things in the new GAP, like being able to put Kit > > numbers in true alphanumeric order. However, as it stands, I will > > hang on to using the old GAP as long as I can. > > > > Diana > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-PROJECTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message