Hi, One of my distant cousins got his deep clade results back on an ancestor, and it is I2b1a (M284), which is what I was expecting from their marker results. They can be seen as B-4 on my page: http://home.netcom.com/~fzsaund/baydna.html On Diana's page at: http://dgmweb.net/DNA/General/Hg-I-subclades-FTDNA-order.shtml this to me matches most closely the IslesS variety, which is why I was expecting his results to be I2b1a. My question is, that GATA A10 on Diana's page for I2b1a is listed as a modal of 15. From the Sorenson site, the three that tested there are listed as GATA A10 of 14, which converts to FTDNA numbers (which I show on my page) of 12. Diana, is the modal of 15 on your page in NIST (ISOGG) numbers (difference of 1 from my line), or in FTDNA numbers (distance of 3 from my line)? Rick Saunders