Hello Rick, All the modals on my page: http://dgmweb.net/DNA/General/Hg-I-subclades-FTDNA-order.shtml were copied from Ken Nordtvedt's page, as of 9 Jun 2009: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net/FounderHaps.xls I did not apply conversion factors to Nordtvedt's figures. All I did was put the markers in FTDNA order and rearrange some rows so they complied with FTDNA's haplotree. You would have to ask Ken whether he applied conversion factors, or not. He subscribes to the Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I mailing list, so that would be the best place to ask: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/DNA/Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I.html And it's hard for me to believe it's been a year since I last updated this page. It seems like yesterday. I'll try to get it updated, today. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Fredric Z. Saunders > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 10:09 AM > To: y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Y-DNA-projects] I2b1a (for Diana) > > Hi, > > One of my distant cousins got his deep clade results back on > an ancestor, and it is I2b1a (M284), which is what I was > expecting from their marker results. They can be seen as > B-4 on my page: > http://home.netcom.com/~fzsaund/baydna.html > > On Diana's page at: > http://dgmweb.net/DNA/General/Hg-I-subclades-FTDNA-order.shtml > this to me matches most closely the IslesS variety, which is why I was > expecting his results to be I2b1a. > > My question is, that GATA A10 on Diana's page for I2b1a is > listed as a modal of 15. From the Sorenson site, the three that > tested there are listed as GATA A10 of 14, which converts to > FTDNA numbers (which I show on my page) of 12. > > Diana, is the modal of 15 on your page in NIST (ISOGG) > numbers (difference of 1 from my line), or in FTDNA numbers > (distance of 3 from my line)? > > Rick Saunders >