Dear Sandy I would try to do the obvious thing - which is how possible is it to triangulate on the John Kennedy who emigrated? In other words, if he had two sons, can you trace a male descendant of both branches and test? Once you know for sure that you have the genetic signature clearly for John Kennedy - you can proceed down the surname comparison route. The one fact you state which makes me puzzled - is that you have a precise date for his birth. If so - can't you trace the family further back in Northern Ireland by any conventional documentation? Where does this precise date come from? It depends on what you mean by the other Kennedy cousins. First cousins, second cousins, third cousins, etc. The further back, the better. Best regards Brian -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Coulter Sent: 17 January 2011 11:41 To: y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com Subject: [Y-DNA-projects] Interesting Situation I have an interesting situation and need some guidance in how to pursue it. One of the few Kennedy males in my family submitted his DNA for testing at Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation, and I recently retrieved his report from GeneTree. Our family research has documented that John Kennedy, born in Belfast, Ireland, 21 May 1801, immigrated to the USA from Belfast to Laurens County SC 10 November 1819. But the single 100% Y-DNA match on GeneTree shows connections to the Pangburn/Pangborn family going back to 1640 in London, Middlesex Co., England. From the chart posted, none of the members of that family tree lived in Ireland nor in South Carolina in the USA. I checked the Kennedy surnames on the SMGF website, and the closest match there is a 30/37% match with a Kenty (Canty) surname of Canada and Wyoming. In thinking about this development, I am considering asking one of the other Kennedy cousins to submit their DNA to FamilyTree DNA. I know there are differences in comparing the results between the two companies, but I think FamilyTree DNA has the better reputation of the genealogy testing companies, and I've had a rather successful project there with one of my husband's family lines. Do you think this is the next step I should take at this point? Or does someone have other recommendations? I am still a bit in shock over this development. Thank you in advance for any advice you might give. Sandy Coulter sandyc@cebridge.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sandy There are in fact two Kennedy DNA projects. There is a very large Kennedy DNA project at Family Tree DNA but I understand the focus of that project is on Kennedys in the USA: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/kennedy/default.aspx Iain Kennedy in Scotland has registered the Kennedy surname with the Guild of One-Name Studies and runs a small Kennedy project at DNA Heritage which I understand focuses on the surname in the British Isles. You can find his website here: http://www.kennedydna.com I would suggest you contact the administrators of both projects to see if anyone from the line in question has already been tested so that you can compare results. Iain might be able to help you with the documentary research. As you have the date and place of birth I would imagine that a baptism record will be available which will give you the names of the parents. Debbie Kennett
Hi Sandy, Several Kennedys are part of the Irish Type III cluster, related to Brian Boru. We need to see your marker values:- Does your DYS459=8,9 and DYS464=13,13,15,17 ? If so, have a look at www.irishtype3dna.org/ Dennis Wright ************************************************************************************ I have an interesting situation and need some guidance in how to pursue it. One of the few Kennedy males in my family submitted his DNA for testing at Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation, and I recently retrieved his report from GeneTree. Our family research has documented that John Kennedy, born in Belfast, Ireland, 21 May 1801, immigrated to the USA from Belfast to Laurens County SC 10 November 1819. But the single 100% Y-DNA match on GeneTree shows connections to the Pangburn/Pangborn family going back to 1640 in London, Middlesex Co., England. From the chart posted, none of the members of that family tree lived in Ireland nor in South Carolina in the USA. I checked the Kennedy surnames on the SMGF website, and the closest match there is a 30/37% match with a Kenty (Canty) surname of Canada and Wyoming. In thinking about this development, I am considering asking one of the other Kennedy cousins to submit their DNA to FamilyTree DNA. I know there are differences in comparing the results between the two companies, but I think FamilyTree DNA has the better reputation of the genealogy testing companies, and I've had a rather successful project there with one of my husband's family lines. Do you think this is the next step I should take at this point? Or does someone have other recommendations? I am still a bit in shock over this development. Thank you in advance for any advice you might give. Sandy Coulter sandyc@cebridge.net