Thanks, Bob I never even noticed those there! Richard Thrift ---- Bob May <tpibob44@bigpond.com> wrote: HTML does work have a look at the bottom left if the typing panel there are 3 icons. The middle one (if I remember correctly) is for HTML Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "RT" <rtx@cox.net> To: <y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 5:43 AM Subject: [Y-DNA-projects] Hit counters in FTDNA's new project web pages? > Since HTML doesn't work in the tool provided for web page content, is > there a way to make a hit counter such as Statcounter work in the > project's FTDNA website? > > not that I have time to look through the stats any more... > > Thanks > Richard Thrift > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 5639 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I couldn't get the PayPal button to work, and I reported that. Lisa Wilcox On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Ralph Taylor wrote: > Has anyone had recent experience with online donations to the project > general fund? Are members/participants able to donate? > > A couple of our members reported trying to make donations online and being > unable to complete the process. It's been reported to FTDNA, but I'm > wondering how high a priority the fix is. > > -ralpht_/) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I concur with everything Diana has said, and for the same reasons. People who do not want to help other are no asset to the project. Not joining a project does not prevent them from being tested. Marleen Van Horne

Since HTML doesn't work in the tool provided for web page content, is there a way to make a hit counter such as Statcounter work in the project's FTDNA website? not that I have time to look through the stats any more... Thanks Richard Thrift

Yes, but I am tired of dealing with the issues with the FTDNA GAP so I ignored it. Margaret On 03/12/2010 09:59, Diana Gale Matthiesen wrote: > Have you noticed that the "Current Balance" of your General Fund is blank on > your FTDNA project home page? You can see it in your GAP, but not on the public > page. > > Diana

Bob, Once people are approved, you loose control of their membership, by that, I mean you have no conventional genealogy to help others. Almost all of the rejects do not hane the right sex or yDNA for the project. I did send a feedback message and was told they hane no plans to change the situation. Marleen Van Horne

Have you noticed that the "Current Balance" of your General Fund is blank on your FTDNA project home page? You can see it in your GAP, but not on the public page. Diana

1. I have, but haven't posted the responses. They all amounted to, "we will pass this suggestion on to IT." We all need to complain about this if there's going to be any improvement in the situation. 2. If I'm going to simply approve everyone, I lose the main purpose of requiring approval: to get their lineage out of them. If you don't get it then, you may never get it, and I consider test results without a lineage worthless. Approving their request to join doesn't mean they'll follow through and buy a kit, so I may not get their email address that way. I don't think FTDNA realizes how much hand-holding some people require before they'll make the plunge, and if they just disappear, I've no way to reach them. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-projects- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob May > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 3:36 AM > To: y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-projects] join authorization > > Two points > !. From the number of complaints and no one quoting a response from FTDNA how many > of you have put in feedback on this > > 2. Would it not be better to use the approve button and having them in the project and > sorting it out and even finding the correct project for them and latter unjoining them if > necessary than loosing them altogether if the system isn't working. If you accept them > you get there email address. > > Bob

Hi Marleen, Your situation I know how to handle. These are requests that came to you from someone going to the FTDNA home page, searching for your project, then making a join request from there. You *do* need to respond to these requests if you want any new members! Go to your GAP and click the Join Authorization link. Then click "Read" next to the request. When you do, the person's message will appear at the bottom of the page, so you can read it. There will also be a tiny Reply button, which you may not have noticed. When you click it, a form will appear allowing you to chose one of three radiobuttons and fill in a message: Accept Request Deny Request More Information What I've been doing is clicking More Information. In the reply, I supply my email address asking them to respond to it. Then we can carry on a "normal" interchange of emails. When my decision is made whether or not to let them in, I can go back to the GAP and, this time, choose one of the other radiobuttons. My current situation is due to the fact that the person's contact with me began as a private email. I now have no message in my GAP with a radiobutton to push. IMO, this new setup royally sucks. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-projects- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marleen Van Horne > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:18 PM > To: y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-projects] join authorization > > Diana, > > I have two join requests pending in the White project. I responded to them through the > GAP asking them o respond to my private address. One was a woman and the other was > a man with the wrong surname. I have never heard from those people, let alone being > able to approve the request. > > Marleen Van Horne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-PROJECTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message

Diana, I have done exactly what you suggest. Got no reply from the potential subscriber. Marleen

I'm baffled. How do I send someone an authorization to join my project? My GAP seems to only allow me to send a "Join Request." Why would I send someone a "request" to Join. I'm supposed to be the recipient of the request to join. They've already made their request, via email, and now I want to let them in. I used to be able to send them a link that would allow them to directly join the project. What's the equivalent on the new GAP? Diana

Diana, I have two join requests pending in the White project. I responded to them through the GAP asking them o respond to my private address. One was a woman and the other was a man with the wrong surname. I have never heard from those people, let alone being able to approve the request. Marleen Van Horne

Since our project is not well funded, when we help with a test it has been for a “key male” whose participation will help with a specific goal having to do with developing an understanding of the surname itself. So far we have only fronted for a 12-marker test. I feel that once someone has been sponsored into the project, and if they match others, it is incumbent upon the others to purchase further testing for that individual if needed for clarification. If it were a better funded project I'd be happy to offer a free-for-all. But this has worked so far. We've only sponsored a few people in but their matches were more than happy to help with additional testing for the benefit of their subgroup and grateful that a new match had been discovered. Martha Bowes

Are there any specific SNPs you test for? might get more tests for the $ Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val Van Zee" <valvz@bellsouth.net> To: <y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: [Y-DNA-projects] general fund strategies > We recently received an anonymous donation to our General Fund... our > first. Wondering how other administrators decide how such funds are used? > Of course, I would like it to help as many people as possible, but it's > only $100 so it won't go too far. In the experience of those who have had > to make such choices, if offered in $25 incremintes, maybe in conjunction > with an FTDNA introductory special... would that be sufficient to attract > new testes? > > Any comments will be greatly appreciated. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 5575 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Val asked "Wondering how other administrators decide how such {General} funds are used?" Our Taylor project uses the General Fund to subsidize Y-STR tests for people who qualify. Typically, we'll pay half of a 37-marker test. They must have a pedigree (tying into the Taylor surname) back to 1850 at latest and the test must meet a project-wide goal, rather than benefiting just the individual. We don't require a pedigree for project membership, so here it assures us that the person isn't substituting DNA for traditional research. 1850 was picked as it's the first census to list names of all family members. We're starting a new initiative: To subsidize all the cost of tests for Taylor attendees at the London "Who Do You Think You Are?" conference in February. We'll pay for 37 markers, requiring the Taylor surname & a pedigree back to 1851. We're now raising the money to pay for the tests from member donations. (BTW, FTDNA has a glitch with online donations, which IT is now working to resolve.) This initiative will help to address a serious lack of British project members and hopefully start to break the cycle of "no members, no matches". Optimistically, we'll be able to extend it further than this one event. -ralpht_/)

We recently received an anonymous donation to our General Fund... our first. Wondering how other administrators decide how such funds are used? Of course, I would like it to help as many people as possible, but it's only $100 so it won't go too far. In the experience of those who have had to make such choices, if offered in $25 incremintes, maybe in conjunction with an FTDNA introductory special... would that be sufficient to attract new testes? Any comments will be greatly appreciated.

Bonnie wrote:- <snip> The test results came back with one value I don't quite understand. One of the markers (DYS 439) reports a null value. According to the footnote (see below), this is possible. The Y-DNA certificate that can be printed shows a null value for DYS 439, but for the familytreedna.com "Y-DNA DYS Values" web page, the system assigned a value of 12. At the bottom of the "Y-DNA DYS Values" web page, was the message: "*System assigned value. Your DNA sample produced no result for DYS 439." <snip> ************************************************************ Bonnie, A Null value at DYS439 is not unusual but indicates your father belongs to a particular cluster. Have a look at http://www.familytreedna.com/public/null439/default.aspx I think you should join this project Hope this helps Dennis Wright

I am new to Y-DNA genetic testing. As I have assembled quite a bit of research material for the Weisel surname, my thought was, if there was sufficient interest, I could start a Weisel Y-DNA surname project. With that in mind, I submitted my father's DNA for analysis. The test results came back with one value I don't quite understand. One of the markers (DYS 439) reports a null value. According to the footnote (see below), this is possible. The Y-DNA certificate that can be printed shows a null value for DYS 439, but for the familytreedna.com "Y-DNA DYS Values" web page, the system assigned a value of 12. At the bottom of the "Y-DNA DYS Values" web page, was the message: "*System assigned value. Your DNA sample produced no result for DYS 439." My questions are: 1) With a null value in the 12 marker test, will this sample be of value to a Weisel surname study? 2) If null is a valid result, and can be passed from father to son, why was a value of 12 assigned in place of the null? 3) For the 12 marker test there were 17 exact matches. Does this mean that all markers match, including a null value for DYS 439? Or was the match made using the system assigned value of 12 for marker 439? (footnote from familytreedna.com) "***A value of “0” for any marker indicates that the lab reported a null value or no result for this marker. All cases of this nature are retested multiple times by the lab to confirm their accuracy. Mutations causing null values are infrequent, but are passed on to offspring just like other mutations, so related male lineages such as a father and son would likely share any null values." Thanks for your comments, Bonnie Weisel

The usual reason a question remains unanswered is that no one on the list has an answer, not because anyone is unwilling or too lazy to supply it. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-projects- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Taylor > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 4:05 PM > To: y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-projects] Y-DNA-PROJECTS conversions from Genebase to FTDNA > > Rick asked "The question I have are on 607, 570, 444, and 481 in FTDNA, are they > also the same as NIST (and thus the same as Genebase 3.5)?" > > Two days yet and no one's answered on list. I presume you've checked out the > conversion tables at www.yesarch.org. > -ralpht_/) > >

Thanks Mark. The ones I asked about (607, 570, 444, and 481 ) were the ones that I couldn't convert through Sorenson. I thought they were probably the same in both Genebase and FTDNA, as on those they matched the modal for their lineage of those that tested with FTDNA. Rick Saunders _____ From: y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-projects-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mark Jost Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:22 AM To: y-dna-projects@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-projects] Y-DNA-PROJECTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 148 There are a few more that need to be converted if you have tested to the 94 marker Genebase3.5 and wish to convert to Ysearch. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Mark Jost <markajost@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:01 AM, <y-dna-projects-request@rootsweb.com>wrote: > >> I have tested at both Genebase and FtDNA for 67 markers >> >> Genebase STRs not tested at FtDNA >> 4 4 A 6 4 4 4 5 >> 6 6 1 3 4 5 6 2 >> 1 2 0 5 5 2 3 2 >> >> Here are the only two that need to be converted to used to compare FtDNA: >> >> DYS520 subtract 1 from Genebase 3.5 >> GATA H4 subtract 1 from Genebase 3.5 >> >> The conversion tables else where are not correct. >> > There are a few more that need to be converted if you have tested to the > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-PROJECTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3243 - Release Date: 11/07/10