I am in the (I1-N) Norse group according to your charts. These are the only differences using your modal for comparison. My numbers are in parenthesis. 449 28 (27) 446 13 (12) 460 10 (11) 463 19 (21) Thanks, Ritch Pruitt Kit #177347 Ysearch.org = GBWJA FTDNA.com/public/Pittsylvania1700s Admin *(From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> It depends not on all those listed negative snps, it depends on your str haplotype. There is nothing between L22 and L813 right now.)*