Hello, Haakon We got positive results for Z186 all over the map: Cont2a, Cont1, Cont2b (P95-)... Still no results from Cont1a and Cont1b (both pending). We do need more Z186 orders and results before we can safely conclude where it sits on the tree and how it relates to L801 and other SNP's. It would also help if volunteers from subgroups who tested negative for L801 would order Z186 - one volunteer from each subgroup will suffice: I2b1-X, I2b1-XX, Roots, Cont2c (L623, L147.4+), Isles (M284+). Finally, a volunteer from Cont2b (L801+, P95+) would also be appreciated. We already got a volunteer from Cont3a (P78+, no results yet). Meanwhile, we got two negative results for Z78 and Z79 (one Cont2a individual was negative for both but positive for Z186, kit# 76513). So at the moment all of the individuals who tested positive for Z186 should give Z78 and Z79 a try. We don't have enough information to know where Z78 and Z79 will fall. Z78, which is supposedly upstream from Z79, may equate to a larger group or may belong within such larger groups as Cont1 or Cont2a. More testing is also needed. Additionally, we got our first L484 results today (kit numbers 54860, 195171 and 174263, all positive). We are working to determine who within Cont3a (P78+) should test for this SNP. Thank you, Aaron Torres From: Haakon Styri <styri@online.no> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Attention Continentals: SNP Z186 now available on FTDNA! Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:57:52 +0100 (MET) References: <1330448832.3771.YahooMailClassic@web113317.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8084664.1237.1331380090574.JavaMail.adm-moff@moffice2.nsc.no> In-Reply-To: <8084664.1237.1331380090574.JavaMail.adm-moff@moffice2.nsc.no> Typo alert :-( Kit 76513 tested Z78 and Z79 as well, and that result is Z186+, Z78-, Z79- H.Styri > From: Haakon Styri [styri@online.no] > Sent: 2012-03-10 12:48:10 MET > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Attention Continentals: SNP Z186 now available on FT DNA! > > First Z186 test results are in: 14 out of 14 positive, all from the L801+ group. > > Kit 76513 tested Z78 and Z79 as well, and that result is Z168+, Z78-, Z79- > > I think there are more tests still pending in the first batch (523), but more testing is obviously needed. > > H.Styri > > > > From: Aaron Salles Torres [sallfertorr@yahoo.com] > > Sent: 2012-02-28 18:07:12 MET > > To: ISOGG@yahoogroups.com, genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com, y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [yDNAhgI] Attention Continentals: SNP Z186 now available on FT DNA! > > > > Dear I2b1/M223 Project Members, > > > > It's been a long wait but the new M223 Z series SNP's are now finally available on FT > > DNA! > > > > If > > you belong to the large Cont group of M223 and/or have previously > > tested positive for L801, please consider ordering SNP Z186. >