Looking at your haplotype, I do not think you will be in L813+ L813+ is typically high at 449 (above 28) 11 at 461, and 11,14,14,16 at 464 - - - - Kenneth Nordtvedt See "Tree for I1" and "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" at http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net showing my working tree for YDNA haplogroup I. These files are periodically updated as new information is obtained. -----Original Message----- From: buddhapup@gmail.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:35 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] Haplogroup I1d (L22+) I am in the (I1-N) Norse group according to your charts. These are the only differences using your modal for comparison. My numbers are in parenthesis. 449 28 (27) 446 13 (12) 460 10 (11) 463 19 (21) Thanks, Ritch Pruitt Kit #177347 Ysearch.org = GBWJA FTDNA.com/public/Pittsylvania1700s Admin *(From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> It depends not on all those listed negative snps, it depends on your str haplotype. There is nothing between L22 and L813 right now.)* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message