Over last couple days Marek Skarbek Kozietulski and I have fleshed out a new clade in I1xL22 and which is nicknamed I1-Iber. It’s core members are from Iberia, Latin America, and New Mexico USA. The core looks very young back to its tmrca; and there are hints it’s members include Iberian Jews of earlier centuries. YHRD database indicates a mother lode of members from Colombia, South America Marek and I have maybe a different view about how far it extends beyond these core members; that is one of the things which z series snp tests and 68-111 marker extensions of haplotypes can help resolve. The core haplotype is identified by following STR values: DYS390 = 23 DYS391 = 11 DYS385 = 13/15 DYS447 = 22 DYS461 = 11 DYS576 = 15 and of course the DYS462 = 12 and DYS511 = 9 associated with I1xL22 It would help establish the outer boundaries of this clade if its z-series snp status could be determined and some extensions to 111 markers made on its haplotypes. Being an I1 clade, with I1 not one of the regular haplogroups associated with Iberia, we would also like to find out if it has any membership beyond Iberia in Europe. So far we really have not found such, unless one really relaxes the match to the identifying STR values indicated above. Ken

This grouping is just, I believe, what I call "I1.000111*". A typical member would be this person: http://www.goggo.com/cgi-bin/branchFind.cgi?Kit=92519 whose STR Branch Code is I1.0001111100001 . So that branch is already mapped, and called "I1.000111*". People in that branch are often reporting Spain as the location of origin for their most-distant male-line ancestor. And it is likely that most people in that branch will be Z58+ Z59+ and onto Z60+ and then possibly Z140+ or other things downstream (or not). As a general principle, all such nice "groupings" of STR results are already exhaustively mapped in the STR Branch Code Tree given in the link at the top of http://www.goggo.com/cgi-bin/branchFind.cgi . Just look at the picture of that tree given in the PDF file, and then find any tight bunching of leaves and branches that you like. Then read off the branch code if you want to give it a name. There are so many of them. For example, I1.011* is a nice little bunch, and it contains virtually all the L338+ people. And I1.100* is another STR bunch that is from Finland and has virtually all the L258+ people. Similarly, there is a main bunch for Z63. And for I2-M438 people, there are some really nice bunches that are tightly associated with an ancestral geographic region and with some specific SNP alleles. So I1.000111* is just another STR bunch, which has a peak ancestral location frequency in Spain. And it is associated with some SNP's etc. I could list many such examples. They are already mapped in the STR Branch Code tree. Terry PS. The STR bunch I1.1100* may end up holding many of the L813+ people - I am just waiting for more results to come in to see if that trend continues. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > Over last couple days Marek Skarbek Kozietulski and I have fleshed out a > new clade in I1xL22 and which is nicknamed I1-Iber. > > It’s core members are from Iberia, Latin America, and New Mexico USA. The > core looks very young back to its tmrca; and there are hints it’s members > include Iberian Jews of earlier centuries. > YHRD database indicates a mother lode of members from Colombia, South > America > > Marek and I have maybe a different view about how far it extends beyond > these core members; that is one of the things which z series snp tests and > 68-111 marker extensions of haplotypes can help resolve. > > The core haplotype is identified by following STR values: > > DYS390 = 23 > DYS391 = 11 > DYS385 = 13/15 > DYS447 = 22 > DYS461 = 11 > DYS576 = 15 > > and of course the DYS462 = 12 and DYS511 = 9 associated with I1xL22 > > It would help establish the outer boundaries of this clade if its z-series > snp status could be determined and some extensions to 111 markers made on > its haplotypes. > > Being an I1 clade, with I1 not one of the regular haplogroups associated > with Iberia, we would also like to find out if it has any membership beyond > Iberia in Europe. > So far we really have not found such, unless one really relaxes the match > to the identifying STR values indicated above. > > Ken > >