My core 16 haplotypes from different surnames and Ibeo-Latin American locations show TMRCA of only 300 years. I think founder was a powerful person or close set of male relatives involved in the Spanish colonizations. -----Original Message----- From: Dora Smith Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 6:09 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New I1-Iber clade in I1xL22 How old would this group likely be? Any chance it's Visigoth, Vandal or Alan? I think that's who would have taken I1 to Spain. I'm not actually sure the Vandals and Alans were Germanic; I think they might have been steppe people; Sarmatians or Scythians, living farther south. Dora On 3/8/2012 8:36 PM, Terry wrote: > This grouping is just, I believe, what I call "I1.000111*". A typical > member would be this person: > http://www.goggo.com/cgi-bin/branchFind.cgi?Kit=92519 > whose STR Branch Code is I1.0001111100001 . > > So that branch is already mapped, and called "I1.000111*". People in that > branch are often reporting Spain as the location of origin for their > most-distant male-line ancestor. And it is likely that most people in that > branch will be Z58+ Z59+ and onto Z60+ and then possibly Z140+ or other > things downstream (or not). > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message