Ken once told me that I was loosely affiliated with AS6, but the STR he had me check to put me in As6 came up negative, so maybe I'm AS6b or something. I've tested Z58+ and Z59+ and am waiting for Z60. Maybe this will put our cluster more clearly into one group. Greg Francis Francis-Rose cluster Ftdna kit: 105913 Y-search:XM82D >>> For the unaffiliated who are Z60+ the remaining snp question is whether Z140+, or Z73+, or Z140- Z73- >>> Ken, make that two of the 14/22 bunch AS6 crew who have tested positive for Z60. Mark Pallette Kit# 185952 Ysearch: 65X9Z >>>> > Ken, Just got my Z60+ results back and now have to wait for the Z141 test. > So now, one of the 14/22 bunch AS6 crew is Z60+ so hope this helps. > Cead mille fialte from an Ulster Anlgo-Norman. > Larry Harvey > Kit# 19860 Ysearch: S3BHN