As administrator of the Iberian I1 project, I have been trying to get individuals belonging to this group to test for the Z SNP's for ages, without any success. The only one of them in my project who upgraded to the 111 markers (Martinez) won't even test. Other surnames include Diaz, Baca, Lucero: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/I1Iberico/default.aspx?section=yresults . This is a generalized problem concerning individuals of Portuguese or Spanish ancestry. They all tend to test very few markers, then completely abandon genetic genealogy. The biggest difficulty with individuals of Iberian ancestry is the language barrier. I have been trying to get FT DNA to do a version of their website in Spanish for a long time (it would be ideal if they did one in Portuguese as well). But it seems the company sees no value in that. Aaron Torres [yDNAhgI] New I1-Iber clade in I1xL22 Thursday, March 8, 2012 2:03 PM From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Over last couple days Marek Skarbek Kozietulski and I have fleshed out a new clade in I1xL22 and which is nicknamed I1-Iber. Being an I1 clade, with I1 not one of the regular haplogroups associated with Iberia, we would also like to find out if it has any membership beyond Iberia in Europe. So far we really have not found such, unless one really relaxes the match to the identifying STR values indicated above. Ken

Does Martinez really have a null at DYS531? -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Salles Torres Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 3:03 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] New I1-Iber clade in I1xL22 As administrator of the Iberian I1 project, I have been trying to get individuals belonging to this group to test for the Z SNP's for ages, without any success. The only one of them in my project who upgraded to the 111 markers (Martinez) won't even test. Other surnames include Diaz, Baca, Lucero: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/I1Iberico/default.aspx?section=yresults . This is a generalized problem concerning individuals of Portuguese or Spanish ancestry. They all tend to test very few markers, then completely abandon genetic genealogy. The biggest difficulty with individuals of Iberian ancestry is the language barrier. I have been trying to get FT DNA to do a version of their website in Spanish for a long time (it would be ideal if they did one in Portuguese as well). But it seems the company sees no value in that. Aaron Torres [yDNAhgI] New I1-Iber clade in I1xL22 Thursday, March 8, 2012 2:03 PM From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Over last couple days Marek Skarbek Kozietulski and I have fleshed out a new clade in I1xL22 and which is nicknamed I1-Iber. Being an I1 clade, with I1 not one of the regular haplogroups associated with Iberia, we would also like to find out if it has any membership beyond Iberia in Europe. So far we really have not found such, unless one really relaxes the match to the identifying STR values indicated above. Ken ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message