In last couple days I have found a robust clade of mainly Scot haplotypes of I1xL22. Here’s the special identifying strs or inferred founding values. Remember: mutations happen; all str identifiers need not be matched to belong to clade. I am nicknaming this clade I1-ESc-13. It has 15 hard core members plus 14 possibles. Several hard core members already confirmed Z138+ Z139+ Markers 1-37 DYS385 = 13/15 norm 13/14 DYS449 = 30 norm 28 DYS464 = 12,14,14,16 norm 12,14,15,16 DYS456 = 15 norm 14 Markers 38-67 Important identifier DYS487 = 13 norm 12 Markers 68-111 DYS710 = 31 DYS552 = 26 norm 25 DYS635 = 20 norm 21/22 DYS497 = 15 norm 14 If you may be in this clade and have only 37 markers, I urge upgrading to 67 or 111 markers. Z138+ Z139+ carry only a small fraction of I1xL22, especially other than of AS2 clade. So Z138 and/or Z139 tests are a relatively inexpensive way to gain info on whether one is of this clade or not. Clade seems about 2100 years old. Geographically it looks perhaps lowland, east coast Scotland Other than a Norwegian member, no continental representatives have been found! Also, I1-AS10 folks might test for Z138+, Z139+ There is some evidence that haplotypes with DYS487 in I1xL22 will often be derived for these new snps. Ken ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message