Hello, Neville We have several L812- results from the various other Roots subgroups. So this SNP currently equates with DYS438=8 and DYS446=8. No broader and no narrower. Thanks, Aaron Torres [yDNAhgI] L812+result Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:15 PM From: "Neville Spencer" <neville@ns.id.au> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Looks like my SNP result has come through as L812+. (Kit N9738) I’m one of the roots clade with DYS438=8 and DYS446=8. I believe it is looking like L812 marks that clade. I’m not sure if there’s been any more results through to rule in it in or out of being any broader or narrower than that? Neville