Anyone yet found Z58+ but Z59- ? I don’t have such a person. Has anyone split Z138 and Z139 yet? I don’t have one, but these markers have been tested much less. Remember: there is a decent chance I1-AS10 and I1-AS1313 may be Z138+ and/or Z139+ But we have no results or even orders yet from these clades! Ken

Z59 appears to be downstream of Z58. So people who are Z58+ can be either Z59+ or Z59-. I can count 93 people, who are Z58+ with Z59-. So the answer to your first question is at least 93 people, which is more than none. And Z138 appears to be downstream of Z139. So there can be Z139+,Z138+ people and Z139+,Z138- people. And indeed, Ken, you yourself are one of the Z139+,Z138- people. If those pairs of SNP's had the opposite downstream ordering, then that would be totally inconsistent with the data we have. Z59 being downstream of Z5, and Z138 being downstream of Z139 is the only interpretation of the data barring any non-unique events. Terry On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > Anyone yet found Z58+ but Z59- ? I don’t have such a person. > > Has anyone split Z138 and Z139 yet? I don’t have one, but these markers > have been tested much less. > > Remember: there is a decent chance I1-AS10 and I1-AS1313 may be Z138+ > and/or Z139+ > > But we have no results or even orders yet from these clades! > > Ken > >