Ken Nordvedt posted: ....... The AS1212 clade along with others seems to be of this population which remains I1* as of now. See "Tree for I1" at http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net However, AS1212 itself divides into two subclades. The one with 24/30/15 at 447, 449, 464d seems not to have had a member test yet for the three basic snps. There are of course a number of additional z snps FTDNA has not yet added to their catalog. We don't know how AS1212 will do with them. Ken Gene Prescott observes: The following in my group (Prescott YDNA Project at FTDNA) have tested to 111: YSearch EYVZS; V24HZ; 3UZQX Beyond being 1212 we are also 20 at YCAIIb Of the above, so far, EYVZS is the only one of those three to SNP test: L338- and Z63- Additional SNPs, when available, that have potential to be informative will be tested. -- Gene Prescott Greenville, NC C. Eugene Prescott, CPA web/blogsite: http://taxtechcpa.blogspot.com/ There is always something new!