Dear friends, As many of you know, Julie Frame Falk and I have spent a few years working to decipher recLOH events involving a number of families belonging to the I1 haplogroup. With that in mind, we created the 21,21 project (I1 recLOH - YCAII a,b = 21,21) and facilitated member participation in the "Walk Through the Y" program to discover SNP's that could be useful to our investigation. SNP's L803 and L802 were discovered that way. Simultaneously, discoveries by 1,000 Genome Project volunteers led to a Z SNP revolution that shook the entire I1 haplogroup. It could then be established that we were dealing with two main 21,21 groups: those who were Z63+ and those who were Z58+ (upstream from newly found SNP's L803 and L802). Based on this new information, our project had to adapt and evolve. That is why, as of 01/31/2012, we have expanded the focus of our research to encompass Z58, Z63 and all of their downstream SNP's. Hence, the new "I1>Z58+ and I1>Z63+" project. We would like to encourage all who have tested positive for Z58, Z63 and/or their downstream SNP's to join: L338, L573, L592, L802, L803, Z138, Z139, Z140, Z141, Z382, Z58, Z59, Z60, Z61, Z62, Z63, Z73. If you belong to the T2 subgroup of I1 (known to be Z63+), you are also welcome to become a member. Needless to say, if you are I1 "AS-generic" and haven't yet tested for Z58 and Z63, we urge you to do so. As our project naturally grows, we will continue to aim at the discovery of new SNP's. In fact, we should start a Z63 WTY campaign shortly, and hope to officially establish various Z63 (T2) subgroups through new SNP's. Other WTY initiatives should follow. To learn more about the new "I1>Z58+ and I1>Z63+" project and join our efforts, you may find us at the following address: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/2121/default.aspx . Best regards, Julie Frame Falk & Aaron Torres

Dear All On Feb 3, my fellow Group Admin, Aaron Salles Torres wrote: <<We would like to encourage all who have tested positive for Z58, Z63 and/or their downstream SNP's to join: L338, L573, L592, L802, L803, Z138, Z139, Z140, Z141, Z382, Z58, Z59, Z60, Z61, Z62, Z63, Z73. If you belong to the T2 subgroup of I1 (known to be Z63+), you are also welcome to become a member. Needless to say, if you are I1 "AS-generic" and haven't yet tested for Z58 and Z63, we urge you to do so. As our project naturally grows, we will continue to aim at the discovery of new SNP's. In fact, we should start a Z63 WTY campaign shortly, and hope to officially establish various Z63 (T2) subgroups through new SNP's. Other WTY initiatives should follow. To learn more about the new "I1>Z58+ and I1>Z63+" project and join our efforts, you may find us at the following address: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/2121/default.aspx .>> We are quickly moving forward with this Project and anxious to begin a campaign for additional WTY. I have temporarily added a diagram that I will informally dub a ‘Surname SNP Tree’ to my Dropbox folder. This file was updated today: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32097634/I1-%20Z58%2B%20%26%20Z63%2B%20Project%20-%20Surname%20SNP%20Tree%20-%209%20Feb%202012.pdf If the link doesn’t transmit, please copy and paste into your browser. If you have not already joined this new project, I would particularly like to invite the owners of the kit numbers/surnames shown on this ‘Surname SNP Tree’ to join us. We would like to have your haplotypes posted with the others in the relevant SNP groups. One of the reasons for the diagram is to help our members intuitively know which SNP (If available at FTDNA) they should test next. To join the I1>Z58+ and I1>Z63+ Project: 1. Log into your personal page at Family Tree DNA 2. Under My Projects in the left column click ‘Join Projects’ 3. Scroll down to ‘Y-DNA Haplogroup Projects’ and click ‘I (11)’ 4. Under Matching Projects click ‘I1>Z58+ and I1>Z63+’ 5. On the next page click the yellow ‘Join’ button A private mailing list at Yahoo is attached to the Project. If you join the Project, but do not wish to be added to the mailing list, please send me a quick email off-list. Many thanks in advance! Kindest regards Julie Frame Falk (Group Admin) __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: a.. New Members 1 a.. New Files 1 Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use. __,_._,___