YSearch : RQD7Y Way back in 2008 you commented as follows: I received your full haplotype yesterday, I believe, from the I1a project > notification system. You were put into the I1a-ASgeneric group. Would you > believe you are the only I1a-ASgeneric in my collection with 20-20 at YCA or > 12 at 460? Rare bird. I1a-ASgeneric makes up maybe 40 or 45 percent of all > haplotypes. There are now 5 of us which have 20-20 at YCA,three of those which have 12 at 460 and 2 with different surnames which have 11 at 460. One of the latter is in England (surname Parr) and traces his linneage in England back to 1790. Three of us in the US have a solid paper trail back to an Oliver Bartlett born about 1743(US) but have hit a brick wall at that point. Parr and the other person with the surname Coe(country of origin unknown but believed to be in US) and I match 25-25 but are 2 steps off at 37. Parr,Coe and I vary at 460, both of them being 11. Parr varies from me also at 576, he being 16. The second step where Coe varies is at H4 where he is 11. Given my somewhat rare SNP values, should I give serious consideration to the possibility that one or both of these 2 men may be "somewhat" close relatives? Also, since our last contact I've had the following test results: Kittler has shown 14,12 at 385 a/b DYS#462: 12 P40 and S62-66 derived (+) L22- M161- M170+ M21- M223- M227- M253+ M258+ M26- M307+ M72- P109- P19+ P259- P30+ P37.2- P38+ Given these and past results, are there any new SNPs you feel there would be a benefit from testing? I've recently had the basic test done at 23andMe. I have no idea whether any of those specific results are of value aside from the fact that they too classified me I1. Any guidance would be appreciated. Ron Bartlett
Parr and Cole haplotypes are recently related to Bartlett haplotype. The new Z series snps divide I1-ASgeneric as well as dividing the robust clades into subhaplogroups. I'd recommend Z58 and Z63. And then depending on results there could be further downstream Z snps to do. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Bartlett Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:43 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] Would any of the new SNPs be of value to me YSearch : RQD7Y Way back in 2008 you commented as follows: I received your full haplotype yesterday, I believe, from the I1a project > notification system. You were put into the I1a-ASgeneric group. Would you > believe you are the only I1a-ASgeneric in my collection with 20-20 at YCA > or > 12 at 460? Rare bird. I1a-ASgeneric makes up maybe 40 or 45 percent of all > haplotypes. There are now 5 of us which have 20-20 at YCA,three of those which have 12 at 460 and 2 with different surnames which have 11 at 460. One of the latter is in England (surname Parr) and traces his linneage in England back to 1790. Three of us in the US have a solid paper trail back to an Oliver Bartlett born about 1743(US) but have hit a brick wall at that point. Parr and the other person with the surname Coe(country of origin unknown but believed to be in US) and I match 25-25 but are 2 steps off at 37. Parr,Coe and I vary at 460, both of them being 11. Parr varies from me also at 576, he being 16. The second step where Coe varies is at H4 where he is 11. Given my somewhat rare SNP values, should I give serious consideration to the possibility that one or both of these 2 men may be "somewhat" close relatives? Also, since our last contact I've had the following test results: Kittler has shown 14,12 at 385 a/b DYS#462: 12 P40 and S62-66 derived (+) L22- M161- M170+ M21- M223- M227- M253+ M258+ M26- M307+ M72- P109- P19+ P259- P30+ P37.2- P38+ Given these and past results, are there any new SNPs you feel there would be a benefit from testing? I've recently had the basic test done at 23andMe. I have no idea whether any of those specific results are of value aside from the fact that they too classified me I1. Any guidance would be appreciated. Ron Bartlett ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message