Ken and others Kit: 64529, YSearch X7P3B, I1-AS 'Maverick' has just come back Z140-. Z60 test is pending. His SNP lineup now: Z59+ Z58+ M253+ L803+ L802+ Z63- Z140- Z139- Z138- Z131- P259- M72- M227- M21- L573- L338- L22- L211- I will let the list know how he goes with Z60. I don't think we have any other test options available right now. As far as I know Z382 and DF29 are still not available. RE: L803 We have now confirmed to the best of our ability that L803 has the potential to bust out of Maverick (Frame A, Hamilton C, Scruggs, Jobling etc.). The 'Mavericks' in the Frame project with the greatest genetic distance have both tested L803+. Their Frame lines appear to have branched apart before the lines leading to Hamilton, Scruggs etc., possibly even around the Conquest era. Since L803 is below Z59, those who are Z59+ and have Frames etc. among their matches at YSearch, may be interesting in testing L803. Regards Julie Frame Falk -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Nordtvedt Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:50 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com ; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Z60 is splitting things in I1xL22 Z60 snp is showing interesting division and should be ordered by certain people in I1xL22 Z60 is in the FTDNA catalog. Z60 is downstream of Z58 and Z59. So if you are Z58+ and Z59+, or Z58+ and Z138- (or Z139-) then Z60 is important for you. We don’t yet know whether Z58+ Z140+ people are Z60+ or Z60- If you are Z58+ Z140- we have found both a Z60- and a Z60+ It seems clade I1-AS9 is Z60+ but I1-AS13 is Z60- Ken ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message