Bravo to an extraordinary 7 year old internet investigator! And another bit of I1 history in Massachusetts, although from a later century: A.H. Rice was governor of Massachusetts from 1876-78; he was a descendant of Edmund Rice, a well-known figure in the Massachusetts Bay Colony, having arrived there in 1638, and holding various political positions thereafter. There's a Rice family DNA group and a public listing of many of the inferred Y-markers for Edmund at Wikipedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Rice_%281638%29#Genetic_research> . According to that site, Rice is inferred to have been I1, DYS455 = 8; YCA-IIa,b = 19, 21. Another 19th century politician, Isham Green Harris, was governor of Tennessee 1857-1862. He was I1* as inferred from the analysis of his own descendants’ DNA, and the DNA of other living instances of the same Harris line that arrived in Virginia in or before the 1630s. Best, Keith -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Nordtvedt Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:20 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I1-T2 has a companion clade There he is, on and off again Governor of Plymouth Colony --- William Bradford I1-Yk ? Z63+ - - - - Kenneth Nordtvedt -----Original Message----- From: Ole Selmer Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:10 PM To: <mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I1-T2 has a companion clade I phoned my granddaughter earlier to nigth; she is 7. After googling she came up with this although she doesn’t speak English: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colonial_governors_of_Massachusetts> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colonial_governors_of_Massachusetts Ole -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: <mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com> y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [ <mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com> mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Kenneth Nordtvedt Sendt: 18. marts 2012 17:20 Til: <mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [yDNAhgI] I1-T2 has a companion clade I won't tell right now. I'm curious whether the younger generation knows any early American colonial history? My grandchildren in school are probably told more about which hollywood celeb visited a OWS ghetto last month than how and why their country was started. - - - - Kenneth Nordtvedt See "Tree for I1" and "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" at <http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net showing my working tree for YDNA haplogroup I. These files are periodically updated as new information is obtained. -----Original Message----- From: G. Magoon Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:09 AM To: <mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I1-T2 has a companion clade Interesting...who is the colonial New England governor? On Mar 18, 2012 11:43 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" < <mailto:knordtvedt@bresnan.net> knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > > I1-T2 clade has been found to be Z63+ Up until now other Z63+ were > miscelaneous generics showing negligible clustering. > > But we now have a small companion clade within Z63+ with nickname I1-Yk > > Marker identifiers are: > > 393 = 12 > 385 = 14,14 or 14,15 > 449 = 30 > 464d = 15 > 460 = 9 > 442 = 11 > > 481 = 26 or 27 > 446 = 14 > > 540 = 11 > 549 = 11 > 635 = 24 > 504 = 15 > > It is rumored that a historical very early New England colonial governor, > well known in my era’s school books, was a member of clade I1-Yk Z63+ > > > > > > - - - - > Kenneth Nordtvedt > See "Tree for I1" and "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" at > <http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > showing my working tree for YDNA haplogroup I. 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