< Any chance it's Visigoth, Vandal or Alan?> In North Africa where Vandals finally landed after their walk through Europe we have no I1s. In Spain and Southern France where finally lived Visigoths share of I1 seems to be very low. I think that both Visigoths and Vandals were rather R1b. In Southern Scandinavia where they lived before the walk through Europe R1b has still a very significant share. Marek Skarbek Kozietulski -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dora Smith Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 5:09 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New I1-Iber clade in I1xL22 How old would this group likely be? Any chance it's Visigoth, Vandal or Alan? I think that's who would have taken I1 to Spain. I'm not actually sure the Vandals and Alans were Germanic; I think they might have been steppe people; Sarmatians or Scythians, living farther south. Dora On 3/8/2012 8:36 PM, Terry wrote: > This grouping is just, I believe, what I call "I1.000111*". A typical > member would be this person: > http://www.goggo.com/cgi-bin/branchFind.cgi?Kit=92519 > whose STR Branch Code is I1.0001111100001 . > > So that branch is already mapped, and called "I1.000111*". People in > that branch are often reporting Spain as the location of origin for > their most-distant male-line ancestor. And it is likely that most > people in that branch will be Z58+ Z59+ and onto Z60+ and then > possibly Z140+ or other things downstream (or not). > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4860 - Release Date: 03/09/12

How common is R1a in those areas? Dora On 3/9/2012 4:34 PM, Marek Skarbek Kozietulski wrote: > < Any chance it's Visigoth, Vandal > or Alan?> > In North Africa where Vandals finally landed after their walk through Europe > we have no I1s. In Spain and Southern France where finally lived Visigoths > share of I1 seems to be very low. I think that both Visigoths and Vandals > were rather R1b. In Southern Scandinavia where they lived before the walk > through Europe R1b has still a very significant share. > Marek Skarbek Kozietulski > > -----Original Message----- > From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dora Smith > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 5:09 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New I1-Iber clade in I1xL22 > > How old would this group likely be? Any chance it's Visigoth, Vandal > or Alan? I think that's who would have taken I1 to Spain. I'm not > actually sure the Vandals and Alans were Germanic; I think they might have > been steppe people; Sarmatians or Scythians, living farther south. > > Dora > > > On 3/8/2012 8:36 PM, Terry wrote: >> This grouping is just, I believe, what I call "I1.000111*". A typical >> member would be this person: >> http://www.goggo.com/cgi-bin/branchFind.cgi?Kit=92519 >> whose STR Branch Code is I1.0001111100001 . >> >> So that branch is already mapped, and called "I1.000111*". People in >> that branch are often reporting Spain as the location of origin for >> their most-distant male-line ancestor. And it is likely that most >> people in that branch will be Z58+ Z59+ and onto Z60+ and then >> possibly Z140+ or other things downstream (or not). >> >