Join the crowd, Stuart. My middle name is "Vanilla". John M Rhodes Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Stuart Phethean <stuart.phethean@gmail.com> wrote: > Ken, > > I'm "Z63+ not T2" and not I1-Yk, so do I assume I'm still just > "miscellaneous"? > > :-( > > Regards, > > Stuart > Kit No B1292 > > On 18 March 2012 15:43, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > >> >> I1-T2 clade has been found to be Z63+ Up until now other Z63+ were >> miscelaneous generics showing negligible clustering. >> >> But we now have a small companion clade within Z63+ with nickname I1-Yk >> >> Marker identifiers are: >> >> 393 = 12 >> 385 = 14,14 or 14,15 >> 449 = 30 >> 464d = 15 >> 460 = 9 >> 442 = 11 >> >> 481 = 26 or 27 >> 446 = 14 >> >> 540 = 11 >> 549 = 11 >> 635 = 24 >> 504 = 15 >> >> It is rumored that a historical very early New England colonial governor, >> well known in my era’s school books, was a member of clade I1-Yk Z63+ >> >> >> >> >> >> - - - - >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> See "Tree for I1" and "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" at >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> showing my working tree for YDNA haplogroup I. These files are >> periodically updated as new information is obtained. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John and Stuart, My view is that you may still be "miscellaneous" but you are a lot *less* miscellaneous than you were before you were discovered to be in the Z63+ clade, just as I am a lot less miscellaneous than I was before being found to be in the Z138+/Z139+ clade. Thank goodness for the 1000 Genomes Project which discovered these new SNPs. Obed On 3/19/2012 7:58 AM, John M Rhodes wrote: > Join the crowd, Stuart. My middle name is "Vanilla". > John M Rhodes > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 19, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Stuart Phethean<stuart.phethean@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ken, >> >> I'm "Z63+ not T2" and not I1-Yk, so do I assume I'm still just >> "miscellaneous"? >> >> :-( >> >> Regards, >> >> Stuart >> Kit No B1292 >> >> On 18 March 2012 15:43, Kenneth Nordtvedt<knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: >> >>> I1-T2 clade has been found to be Z63+ Up until now other Z63+ were >>> miscelaneous generics showing negligible clustering. >>> >>> But we now have a small companion clade within Z63+ with nickname I1-Yk >>> >>> Marker identifiers are: >>> >>> 393 = 12 >>> 385 = 14,14 or 14,15 >>> 449 = 30 >>> 464d = 15 >>> 460 = 9 >>> 442 = 11 >>> >>> 481 = 26 or 27 >>> 446 = 14 >>> >>> 540 = 11 >>> 549 = 11 >>> 635 = 24 >>> 504 = 15 >>> >>> It is rumored that a historical very early New England colonial governor, >>> well known in my era’s school books, was a member of clade I1-Yk Z63+ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - - - - >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>> See "Tree for I1" and "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" at >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>> showing my working tree for YDNA haplogroup I. These files are >>> periodically updated as new information is obtained. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message