If you have doubts of my AS2 clade identification, Z138 and/or Z139 will add strength to the identification, and in any case give you a further downstream snp landmark. Z138 and Z139 are supposed to be phyloequivalent, meaning we have just seen both negative or both positive in cases where both were tested. You could just test one. But logically, some day we might find a Z138+ Z139- or vice versa. To order such a snp, go to personal page. In upper right corner click on red box which says "order further tests" Then look for "advanced tests" NOT "advanced snp tests". You will have a choice of STR tests, Y SNP tests..... pick Y SNPs You will get menu of all available snps. Put in box Z138. Then proceed with order as they direct. And remember not to blame me for FTDNA's obscure process for snp orders as outlined above. It's their doing! Ken - - - - Kenneth Nordtvedt See: "Tree for I1" "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" "The I1modalities" at http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net showing my working tree for YDNA haplogroup I. These files are periodically updated as new information is obtained. -----Original Message----- From: CeCe Moore Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 7:35 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Stoalabarger I1 / I -M253 - Recommendation for SNP testing? Thanks, Ken. Does that mean that I should order Z138 and Z139? Sorry, I am not very experienced with SNP orders. Thank you for your expertise and time, CeCe www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com www.studiointv.com mx27e looks like an AS2 haplotype and should be Z138+ Z139+ - - - - Kenneth Nordtvedt Hi, Y-search ID MX27E is a new I1. (23andMe says I1*) I plan on SNP testing as soon as I can get a recommendation. Can someone look at it and suggest what would be the best SNP(s) to test? This is the first participant of my new Stoalabarger DNA Project (my 3rd cousin once removed). The Stoalabargers are supposed to be from Germany and I was hoping to get some hints as to the origins of their surname, but there don't appear to be any relevant matches yet. I just joined the I1 Project. Thanks, CeCe www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com www.studiointv.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message