Once the snp status of a clear cut clade is determined consistently for a couple members, it is pretty safe to assume others in the clade follow suit. This assumption might be weakened for outliers. For the generics, however, individuals can assume very little by the results of other generics, unless they are extremely close haplotypes. -----Original Message----- From: Lplantagenet Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 12:18 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] DF29 has arrived for I1 !!! That was quick! I've just sent an e-mail to my AS7E's telling them they don't need to request DF29 after all. I also asked for a couple of volunteers willing to test it, so that we don't have too unnecessary orders. The SNP page of the I1 project indicates that St. Clair is negative for Z58, Z63, and Z131. I didn't realise until I saw that page a couple of weeks ago that St. Clair had ordered any SNPs. Allred is negative for Z58 and Z63 and we are still waiting for Creed's results for Z131. I've already told two AS7Es that you recommend WTY and have asked for suggestions about raising the money. I think a lottery for the Childers might work if enough of them are interested--$15 per ticket and if you buy more than one ticket you increase your chance of winning. Lindsey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message