I1-T2 clade has been found to be Z63+ Up until now other Z63+ were miscelaneous generics showing negligible clustering. But we now have a small companion clade within Z63+ with nickname I1-Yk Marker identifiers are: 393 = 12 385 = 14,14 or 14,15 449 = 30 464d = 15 460 = 9 442 = 11 481 = 26 or 27 446 = 14 540 = 11 549 = 11 635 = 24 504 = 15 It is rumored that a historical very early New England colonial governor, well known in my era’s school books, was a member of clade I1-Yk Z63+ - - - - Kenneth Nordtvedt See "Tree for I1" and "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" at http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net showing my working tree for YDNA haplogroup I. These files are periodically updated as new information is obtained.

Is this companion clade branch of T2 (DYS459a=7) or of Z63+? How old is this clade? Best, Marek Skarbek Kozietulski -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Nordtvedt Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 8:44 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] I1-T2 has a companion clade I1-T2 clade has been found to be Z63+ Up until now other Z63+ were miscelaneous generics showing negligible clustering. But we now have a small companion clade within Z63+ with nickname I1-Yk Marker identifiers are: 393 = 12 385 = 14,14 or 14,15 449 = 30 464d = 15 460 = 9 442 = 11 481 = 26 or 27 446 = 14 540 = 11 549 = 11 635 = 24 504 = 15 It is rumored that a historical very early New England colonial governor, well known in my era’s school books, was a member of clade I1-Yk Z63+ - - - - Kenneth Nordtvedt See "Tree for I1" and "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" at http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net showing my working tree for YDNA haplogroup I. These files are periodically updated as new information is obtained. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4877 - Release Date: 03/17/12

It is not a branch of T2. See "tree for I1" to see its ancient node with T2 (3900 years ago). I said it was Z63+; that's what it shares with T2. Clade has very young MRCA based on the 8 haplotypes --- 1000 years. - - - - Kenneth Nordtvedt See "Tree for I1" and "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" at http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net showing my working tree for YDNA haplogroup I. These files are periodically updated as new information is obtained. -----Original Message----- From: Marek Skarbek Kozietulski Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:20 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I1-T2 has a companion clade Is this companion clade branch of T2 (DYS459a=7) or of Z63+? How old is this clade? Best, Marek Skarbek Kozietulski -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Nordtvedt Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 8:44 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] I1-T2 has a companion clade I1-T2 clade has been found to be Z63+ Up until now other Z63+ were miscelaneous generics showing negligible clustering. But we now have a small companion clade within Z63+ with nickname I1-Yk Marker identifiers are: 393 = 12 385 = 14,14 or 14,15 449 = 30 464d = 15 460 = 9 442 = 11 481 = 26 or 27 446 = 14 540 = 11 549 = 11 635 = 24 504 = 15 It is rumored that a historical very early New England colonial governor, well known in my era’s school books, was a member of clade I1-Yk Z63+ - - - - Kenneth Nordtvedt See "Tree for I1" and "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" at http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net showing my working tree for YDNA haplogroup I. These files are periodically updated as new information is obtained. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4877 - Release Date: 03/17/12 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Interesting...who is the colonial New England governor? On Mar 18, 2012 11:43 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > > I1-T2 clade has been found to be Z63+ Up until now other Z63+ were > miscelaneous generics showing negligible clustering. > > But we now have a small companion clade within Z63+ with nickname I1-Yk > > Marker identifiers are: > > 393 = 12 > 385 = 14,14 or 14,15 > 449 = 30 > 464d = 15 > 460 = 9 > 442 = 11 > > 481 = 26 or 27 > 446 = 14 > > 540 = 11 > 549 = 11 > 635 = 24 > 504 = 15 > > It is rumored that a historical very early New England colonial governor, > well known in my era’s school books, was a member of clade I1-Yk Z63+ > > > > > > - - - - > Kenneth Nordtvedt > See "Tree for I1" and "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" at > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > showing my working tree for YDNA haplogroup I. These files are > periodically updated as new information is obtained. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ken, I'm "Z63+ not T2" and not I1-Yk, so do I assume I'm still just "miscellaneous"? :-( Regards, Stuart Kit No B1292 On 18 March 2012 15:43, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > > I1-T2 clade has been found to be Z63+ Up until now other Z63+ were > miscelaneous generics showing negligible clustering. > > But we now have a small companion clade within Z63+ with nickname I1-Yk > > Marker identifiers are: > > 393 = 12 > 385 = 14,14 or 14,15 > 449 = 30 > 464d = 15 > 460 = 9 > 442 = 11 > > 481 = 26 or 27 > 446 = 14 > > 540 = 11 > 549 = 11 > 635 = 24 > 504 = 15 > > It is rumored that a historical very early New England colonial governor, > well known in my era’s school books, was a member of clade I1-Yk Z63+ > > > > > > - - - - > Kenneth Nordtvedt > See "Tree for I1" and "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" at > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > showing my working tree for YDNA haplogroup I. These files are > periodically updated as new information is obtained. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message