Terry. Does your tool work with ysearch number 84WK4 with 67 markers? I put it into YSearch in 2007 or 2008 and joined I group several months ago Sent from my iPhone On Mar 8, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Terry <tdrobb@gmail.com> wrote: > This grouping is just, I believe, what I call "I1.000111*". A typical > member would be this person: > http://www.goggo.com/cgi-bin/branchFind.cgi?Kit=92519 > whose STR Branch Code is I1.0001111100001 . > > So that branch is already mapped, and called "I1.000111*". People in that > branch are often reporting Spain as the location of origin for their > most-distant male-line ancestor. And it is likely that most people in that > branch will be Z58+ Z59+ and onto Z60+ and then possibly Z140+ or other > things downstream (or not). > > As a general principle, all such nice "groupings" of STR results are > already exhaustively mapped in the STR Branch Code Tree given in the link > at the top of > http://www.goggo.com/cgi-bin/branchFind.cgi . > > Just look at the picture of that tree given in the PDF file, and then find > any tight bunching of leaves and branches that you like. Then read off the > branch code if you want to give it a name. There are so many of them. > > For example, I1.011* is a nice little bunch, and it contains virtually all > the L338+ people. And I1.100* is another STR bunch that is from Finland and > has virtually all the L258+ people. Similarly, there is a main bunch for > Z63. And for I2-M438 people, there are some really nice bunches that are > tightly associated with an ancestral geographic region and with some > specific SNP alleles. > > So I1.000111* is just another STR bunch, which has a peak ancestral > location frequency in Spain. And it is associated with some SNP's etc. > > I could list many such examples. They are already mapped in the STR Branch > Code tree. > > Terry > > PS. The STR bunch I1.1100* may end up holding many of the L813+ people - I > am just waiting for more results to come in to see if that trend continues. > > > > On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > >> Over last couple days Marek Skarbek Kozietulski and I have fleshed out a >> new clade in I1xL22 and which is nicknamed I1-Iber. >> >> It’s core members are from Iberia, Latin America, and New Mexico USA. The >> core looks very young back to its tmrca; and there are hints it’s members >> include Iberian Jews of earlier centuries. >> YHRD database indicates a mother lode of members from Colombia, South >> America >> >> Marek and I have maybe a different view about how far it extends beyond >> these core members; that is one of the things which z series snp tests and >> 68-111 marker extensions of haplotypes can help resolve. >> >> The core haplotype is identified by following STR values: >> >> DYS390 = 23 >> DYS391 = 11 >> DYS385 = 13/15 >> DYS447 = 22 >> DYS461 = 11 >> DYS576 = 15 >> >> and of course the DYS462 = 12 and DYS511 = 9 associated with I1xL22 >> >> It would help establish the outer boundaries of this clade if its z-series >> snp status could be determined and some extensions to 111 markers made on >> its haplotypes. >> >> Being an I1 clade, with I1 not one of the regular haplogroups associated >> with Iberia, we would also like to find out if it has any membership beyond >> Iberia in Europe. >> So far we really have not found such, unless one really relaxes the match >> to the identifying STR values indicated above. >> >> Ken >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, I've just uploaded my latest database to the website. You seem to be there now: http://www.goggo.com/cgi-bin/branchFind.cgi?Kit=84WK4 Not certain why it was missing before. A keyword search under RHOD also picks you too now. Terry On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:39 PM, John M Rhodes <johnmrhodes409@gmail.com>wrote: > Terry. Does your tool work with ysearch number 84WK4 with 67 markers? I > put it into YSearch in 2007 or 2008 and joined I group several months ago > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 8, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Terry <tdrobb@gmail.com> wrote: > > > This grouping is just, I believe, what I call "I1.000111*". A typical... >