I expanded my markers to 111 (#236407), but I believe I remain in the I1-N haplotype. I'll happily test L1340 if you think it'll be useful as a control. On Dec 28, 2012, at 6:32 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <[email protected]> wrote: > Some time ago I isolated a very novel clade of L22+ which looks like it branched away from bulk of the tree quite early. It is called I1d-13 in honor of the modal 13 at DYS392. But it has many other unique STR values. > > See “The I1 modalities” for the full set of identifiers. > > I today noticed that one member of the clade did a WTY and was found to have a new snp --- L1340. I believe it is a deletion type of mutation. > Also, it seems no one else has since done a L1340 test. > > I recommend members of this clade I1d-13 test for L1340, and that a few basic L22+ I1d also do so in order to see if the L1340+ is confined to the I1d-13 clade. > > See “Tree for I1dL22+” for the estimated very early location of the node from which the I1d-13 branch line emerges. > > Membership of the clade stretches from Russia west to Scotland, catching Scandinavia and Germany in between. > > > > > - - - - > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > See: > "Tree for I1xL22xZ58" > "Tree for I1 Z58+" > "Tree for I1d L22+" > "Tree for M223 x Z161" > "Tree for M223+ Z161+" > "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" > "The I1 modalities" > "The M223+ Modalities" > > > at http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > These files are periodically updated as new information is obtained. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is it worthwhile for someone I-P109 to test for L1340?

Yes, P109+ is about as old as the basic L22+ clade. The only implied negative I can find for L1340 is the WTY person from L813+ I1-uN clade - - - - Kenneth Nordtvedt See: "Tree for I1xL22xZ58" "Tree for I1 Z58+" "Tree for I1d L22+" "Tree for M223 x Z161" "Tree for M223+ Z161+" "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" "The I1 modalities" "The M223+ Modalities" at http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net These files are periodically updated as new information is obtained. -----Original Message----- From: Wayne R. Roberts Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 4:55 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Overlooked L22+ subhaplogroup with available snp Is it worthwhile for someone I-P109 to test for L1340? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message