The M223 tree makes more sense now with those two samples added and CTS616 and Z161 placed on the tree. Thanks for all the work you have done with the Chromo2 results. Now if only we knew what placement these S series SNPs were on the Y chromosome. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <[email protected]>wrote: > And I had missed sample 184. He appears to be CTS616- and of that YCA > 17/19 > clade. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne R. Roberts > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 6:59 PM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Chromo2 Trees > > Kenneth, > > For M223, it appears all the samples (thus branches) are downstream of > CTS616, CTS9183. Is that correct? > > Also of those downstream of CTS10057, CTS10100, all samples (branches) are > Z161 and all of those are L801. Correct? > > So the implications are: no M223* samples upstream of CTS616, no L1228* > samples, no L701*/L702* samples, no L623* samples and no Z161* samples > upstream of L801/Z183. Also there are no M284 samples that are L1195-. > > I am unclear of the placement of sample 189. It appears to be parallel to > the Z2054-Z2102 branch. I assume 189 is not a Roots 911 person as he would > still be positive for some or all of Z2055 to Z2102 and negative for Z2054. > Therefore 189 is a unique new branch and there are no samples that are > L1229 and Z2054-. > > Wayne > > > On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > I have finished my first cut at putting all the anonymous haplogroup I > raw > > data files I obtained for Chromo2 results. > > > > They are in my website as powerpoint slides under names "Chromo2......" > > with suffixes F597 L22 Z58 I1xZ58xL22 M223 and P37. > > > > Now F597 is an erroneous snp name which should be L597. But only those > in > > that division of haplogroup I will probably know the difference right > now. > > I'll get that corrected shortly. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
One of those M223 dna samples from Chromo2 is indeed L1228+ See latest update of "Chromo2M223" Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Wayne R. Roberts Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 10:18 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Chromo2 Trees The M223 tree makes more sense now with those two samples added and CTS616 and Z161 placed on the tree. Thanks for all the work you have done with the Chromo2 results. Now if only we knew what placement these S series SNPs were on the Y chromosome. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <[email protected]>wrote: > And I had missed sample 184. He appears to be CTS616- and of that YCA > 17/19 > clade. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne R. Roberts > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 6:59 PM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Chromo2 Trees > > Kenneth, > > For M223, it appears all the samples (thus branches) are downstream of > CTS616, CTS9183. Is that correct? > > Also of those downstream of CTS10057, CTS10100, all samples (branches) are > Z161 and all of those are L801. Correct? > > So the implications are: no M223* samples upstream of CTS616, no L1228* > samples, no L701*/L702* samples, no L623* samples and no Z161* samples > upstream of L801/Z183. Also there are no M284 samples that are L1195-. > > I am unclear of the placement of sample 189. It appears to be parallel to > the Z2054-Z2102 branch. I assume 189 is not a Roots 911 person as he would > still be positive for some or all of Z2055 to Z2102 and negative for > Z2054. > Therefore 189 is a unique new branch and there are no samples that are > L1229 and Z2054-. > > Wayne > > > On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > I have finished my first cut at putting all the anonymous haplogroup I > raw > > data files I obtained for Chromo2 results. > > > > They are in my website as powerpoint slides under names "Chromo2......" > > with suffixes F597 L22 Z58 I1xZ58xL22 M223 and P37. > > > > Now F597 is an erroneous snp name which should be L597. But only those > in > > that division of haplogroup I will probably know the difference right > now. > > I'll get that corrected shortly. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Wow, that is a lot of S series SNPs associated with the L1228 sample. Great work. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <[email protected]>wrote: > One of those M223 dna samples from Chromo2 is indeed L1228+ See latest > update of "Chromo2M223" > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne R. Roberts > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 10:18 PM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Chromo2 Trees > > The M223 tree makes more sense now with those two samples added and CTS616 > and Z161 placed on the tree. > > Thanks for all the work you have done with the Chromo2 results. > > Now if only we knew what placement these S series SNPs were on the Y > chromosome. > > > On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > And I had missed sample 184. He appears to be CTS616- and of that YCA > > 17/19 > > clade. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wayne R. Roberts > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 6:59 PM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Chromo2 Trees > > > > Kenneth, > > > > For M223, it appears all the samples (thus branches) are downstream of > > CTS616, CTS9183. Is that correct? > > > > Also of those downstream of CTS10057, CTS10100, all samples (branches) > are > > Z161 and all of those are L801. Correct? > > > > So the implications are: no M223* samples upstream of CTS616, no L1228* > > samples, no L701*/L702* samples, no L623* samples and no Z161* samples > > upstream of L801/Z183. Also there are no M284 samples that are L1195-. > > > > I am unclear of the placement of sample 189. It appears to be parallel to > > the Z2054-Z2102 branch. I assume 189 is not a Roots 911 person as he > would > > still be positive for some or all of Z2055 to Z2102 and negative for > > Z2054. > > Therefore 189 is a unique new branch and there are no samples that are > > L1229 and Z2054-. > > > > Wayne > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > I have finished my first cut at putting all the anonymous haplogroup I > > raw > > > data files I obtained for Chromo2 results. > > > > > > They are in my website as powerpoint slides under names "Chromo2......" > > > with suffixes F597 L22 Z58 I1xZ58xL22 M223 and P37. > > > > > > Now F597 is an erroneous snp name which should be L597. But only those > > in > > > that division of haplogroup I will probably know the difference right > > now. > > > I'll get that corrected shortly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Probably they did a full genome on the fellow. And the root node connection of the line is far far ago. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Wayne R. Roberts Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 2:30 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Chromo2 Trees Wow, that is a lot of S series SNPs associated with the L1228 sample. Great work. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <[email protected]>wrote: > One of those M223 dna samples from Chromo2 is indeed L1228+ See latest > update of "Chromo2M223" > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne R. Roberts > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 10:18 PM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Chromo2 Trees > > The M223 tree makes more sense now with those two samples added and CTS616 > and Z161 placed on the tree. > > Thanks for all the work you have done with the Chromo2 results. > > Now if only we knew what placement these S series SNPs were on the Y > chromosome. > > > On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > And I had missed sample 184. He appears to be CTS616- and of that YCA > > 17/19 > > clade. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wayne R. Roberts > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 6:59 PM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Chromo2 Trees > > > > Kenneth, > > > > For M223, it appears all the samples (thus branches) are downstream of > > CTS616, CTS9183. Is that correct? > > > > Also of those downstream of CTS10057, CTS10100, all samples (branches) > are > > Z161 and all of those are L801. Correct? > > > > So the implications are: no M223* samples upstream of CTS616, no L1228* > > samples, no L701*/L702* samples, no L623* samples and no Z161* samples > > upstream of L801/Z183. Also there are no M284 samples that are L1195-. > > > > I am unclear of the placement of sample 189. It appears to be parallel > > to > > the Z2054-Z2102 branch. I assume 189 is not a Roots 911 person as he > would > > still be positive for some or all of Z2055 to Z2102 and negative for > > Z2054. > > Therefore 189 is a unique new branch and there are no samples that are > > L1229 and Z2054-. > > > > Wayne > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > I have finished my first cut at putting all the anonymous haplogroup I > > raw > > > data files I obtained for Chromo2 results. > > > > > > They are in my website as powerpoint slides under names > > > "Chromo2......" > > > with suffixes F597 L22 Z58 I1xZ58xL22 M223 and P37. > > > > > > Now F597 is an erroneous snp name which should be L597. But only > > > those > > in > > > that division of haplogroup I will probably know the difference right > > now. > > > I'll get that corrected shortly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message