Your comments sound to me like another one of those sour grape type responses which pop up in our group from time to time when an outsider dares to rock the boat. I notice that knockers tend to be garrulous. On 2/8/2014 2:39 AM, Holmes, Ryan D. (KSC-SAD20) wrote: > I love it when science can't agree. Don't these people compare notes? > Theory One states 800,000 years ago at least five humanoids were walking in estuary mud (I had to look it up, that's an area where the tidal waters of a sea meet the mouth of a river) looking for food and left footprints, in tidal mud, that didn't wash away, until they were recently uncovered, recorded, and subsequently--washed away. Wow! What are the odds? > Theory Two states 800,000 years ago sea level was a whopping 225 feet lower. That's 75 meters for those UK scientists who think they found footprints in tidal mud. Here's a link to the supporting data: http://www.carbonvirgin.com/content/show/popup/url/ice_d9 > Somebody's theory is wrong. > Since neither theory appears credible, I'll suggest a third equally credible theory. Evidence now suggests these foot prints were left in the mud during the rainy season on a high hill 75 meters above sea-level overlooking the ocean by five biped alien scientists surveying the planet as a possible future site for a 800,000-year-long experiment on the bipedal evolution of primates. If the evidence holds up against scrutiny, then the age old question of 'are we alone?' has been answered. And the best part, that experiment is due to conclude any year now plus or minus a conservative .001 percent dating error or 800 years so keep a look out for those alien scientists to return, if they haven't already. > Thanks for the link to a good laugh and for providing an idea for my next science fiction novel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: patrick holland [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 9:52 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [yDNAhgI] 800,000 years old foot prints found in England > > Food for thought, > > http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/years-old-uk-footprints/story-fn3dxix6-1226821085299 > > Patrick Holland. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My, my, my -- talk about science!! It doesn't appear that anyone posting here has bothered to read the original published article in PLOS--the link is here: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0088329 And nearly four years ago the site was first discovered and age determined as reported here from 2010: how they dated the site http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100707/full/news.2010.338.html The point being that "The site has long been recognized for the preservation of sediments containing Early Pleistocene fauna and flora ... The sediments consist of sands, gravels and *laminated silts*." So the material where the prints were found was not simply loose sand and as they say, "the features became less distinct as a result of erosion over successive tidal cycles and they had been completely removed by the end of May 2013." They were originally well preserved, protected under a cliff that has slowly eroded away exposing the layer containing the footprints. And over the last two years, continued erosion of the cliffs, combined with particularly severe scouring and removal of the modern beach deposits during winter storms, revealed the new exposures ... which as mentioned above exposed the prints to further erosion and finally total loss. Nothing mysterious here and invoking aliens is just plain ignorant. How very tiresome. To try to quash a scientific report without reading it is the very height of stupidity and, by the way, the authors are not outsiders, but very highly respected in the field -- in particular Dr. Chris Stringer is world renowned. So suck it up and read the publication before trashing it. And Jim, it didn't just happen that the prints were curiously washed away in 3 weeks after 800,000 years. T.J. White and Diana have had the right idea. Richard On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 5:40 PM, patrick holland <[email protected]>wrote: > > Your comments sound to me like another one of those sour grape type > responses which pop up in our group from time to time when an outsider > dares to rock the boat. I notice that knockers tend to be garrulous. > > On 2/8/2014 2:39 AM, Holmes, Ryan D. (KSC-SAD20) wrote: > > I love it when science can't agree. Don't these people compare notes? > > Theory One states 800,000 years ago at least five humanoids were walking > in estuary mud (I had to look it up, that's an area where the tidal waters > of a sea meet the mouth of a river) looking for food and left footprints, > in tidal mud, that didn't wash away, until they were recently uncovered, > recorded, and subsequently--washed away. Wow! What are the odds? > > Theory Two states 800,000 years ago sea level was a whopping 225 feet > lower. That's 75 meters for those UK scientists who think they found > footprints in tidal mud. Here's a link to the supporting data: > http://www.carbonvirgin.com/content/show/popup/url/ice_d9 > > Somebody's theory is wrong. > > Since neither theory appears credible, I'll suggest a third equally > credible theory. Evidence now suggests these foot prints were left in the > mud during the rainy season on a high hill 75 meters above sea-level > overlooking the ocean by five biped alien scientists surveying the planet > as a possible future site for a 800,000-year-long experiment on the bipedal > evolution of primates. If the evidence holds up against scrutiny, then the > age old question of 'are we alone?' has been answered. And the best part, > that experiment is due to conclude any year now plus or minus a > conservative .001 percent dating error or 800 years so keep a look out for > those alien scientists to return, if they haven't already. > > Thanks for the link to a good laugh and for providing an idea for my > next science fiction novel. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: patrick holland [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 9:52 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [yDNAhgI] 800,000 years old foot prints found in England > > > > Food for thought, > > > > > http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/years-old-uk-footprints/story-fn3dxix6-1226821085299 > > > > Patrick Holland. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >